Not Daphne but Basil.

Daphne Trimble has failed in her bid to be selected as UUP candidate to oppose Jeffrey Donaldson. The Party has selected Basil McCrea, a Hillsborough businessman.

Trimble wife fails in nomination

  • The Devil

    Thats a real pity for Daphne, being maried to David Trimble she was probably really looking forward to the errection.

    It’s also a real pity for Jeffrey Donaldson because he could have set the record for the biggest majority in an election.

    And a real pity for us because it would have been fun.

  • The Devil

    Is it me are are the UUP going big on selecting candidates who look like they have just left special branch last week,

    younger,fitter, better looking, with new blue ties and a SMILE

  • The Devil

    Is it me are are the UUP going big on selecting candidates who look like they have just left special branch last week,

    younger,fitter, better looking, with new blue ties and a SMILE

  • The Devil

    there was no spelling mistake in the first post, and as far as i am aware the man and ball rule where adhered to.

    I definately played the ball

  • davidbrew

    YOur Satanic majesty
    surely you approve of suicide, which is a mortal sin? And when the UUP decides to commit comedy suicide then it’s even better. First Dermot, now Daphne cast aside for fifteen minutes of fame for non-entities. And what’s the betting the candidate’s wife is called Sybil?

    Yes those awfully polite UUP delegates have excpressed their clear disapproval for the performance of their leader- in the nicest possible way of course- because he simply hadn’t the breeding to do the decent thing. When he was left in the room with the glass of whisky and pearl handled revolver he drank the hooch and pretended the gun was proof of his great triumph of decomnmissioning. Not for the dowager ladies of Hillsborough the vote of no confidence, nor the protest letter. Heaven forfend. But the snub is all the more devastating given that this is the least likely group to rebel, and has now done so.

    It’s also noteworthy that the attendance was ony about 60% of those eligible, which was in itself about 50% of the total 5 years ago. The curse of Jeffrey lives on.

  • ulsterman

    Well Basil I have bad news for you. You aint got a hope. A walkover for Donaldson.

    God Save The Queen.

  • Butterknife

    “The curse of Jeffrey lives on.” [davidbrew} And by God, he did his work well:)

  • Will

    To listen to Basil this morning he definately wasnt “mentioning the war”. Apparently he’s going to win the election on a tide of positivity – expect puppies and flowers on the UUP election literature everyone.

    That combined with the fact that he was clearly in support of DUP policy should make for an interesting election in Lagan Valley.

    Can anyone imagine just how loudly Jeffrey Donaldson must have laughed when he heard the result?

    While we’re on the Fawlty Towers references, of course today is ‘the anniversary’.

  • Michael Shilliday

    What a wonderful show of intellect by the usual suspects.

    “It’s also noteworthy that the attendance was ony about 60% of those eligible, which was in itself about 50% of the total 5 years ago. The curse of Jeffrey lives on.”

    Now now David, how would you know about that? Completly untrue, turnout was closer to 80% of those who ever turn out for anything (I think 150 was the figure on the radio), and of those who left, the splits are starting already! Its marvellous.

    Last nights vote was NOT a vote against avid Trimble. Two different candiates standing on a strong and the same big picture politic, and the candiate stronger on bread and butter issues won – its as simple as that.

    And Brewster, whatever happened to Cunningham House interferance in selection meetings?

  • unionist_observer

    I reckon thats great news, Basil an intelligent and articulate man, all the best to him.

  • Moderate Unionist

    Will
    Why do you think Jeffrey will have laughed? Was he worried about losing his seat to Daphne?

  • Will

    Moderate Unionist
    In my view you can take your pick as to who will lose more badly, Daphne or Basil.

    Donaldson will have laughed I imagine, as I did myself, at the slap in the face given to David’s beloved by the people at the meeting. This after it had almost been taken as a given that she would be selected – we dont see too many other people who have just put their name in for selection appearing on Hearts & Minds.

    In some senses it would have been great for Donaldson to have beaten Daphne soundly, but it really doesnt make a button of difference who the UUP candidate is.

    Michael
    You’re from LV aren’t you? Who did you vote for?

  • Keith M

    Does anyone really care which nodding donkey the UUP put up to be whipped by Donaldson in Lagan Valley?

    There are 8 constituencies where a deaf, dumb and blind man could call the winner today. Let’s concentrate on the other 10 (or 11 if McGrady doesn’t run).

  • Michael Shilliday

    You tell me who you are and I’ll tell you who I voted for.

  • NeoCon

    Shilliday,

    Unless even the Trimble house is split down the middle, I would have assumed that the fragrant Daphne was offering a 100% DT line to the Lagan Valley delegates. Therefore, the Lagan Valley Association rejected Trimble policy. You can try to tell me that Basil Whatshisname is a Trimbleite too but I would refer you to his comments on GMU this morning – he sounded like a DUP plant.

  • Dec

    At the risk of playing man not ball, when I saw and heard Basil this morning I was immediately put in mind of that Monty Python sketch, ‘The Upper Class Twit of the Year’.

  • NeoCon

    Dec,

    He certainly has the Christian name to comepete in that particular contest.

    Tally Ho!

  • Butterknife

    Well is Jeffrey Donaldson not more so of a ‘nodding Donkey’ Keith M, now, that he is in the DUP?

    What is a Trimblite, now that Robinsonism has control of the rudder on the good ship DUP – I heard a rumour that Robinson has given an order that any one who now dismisses the Belfast Agreement now faces deslection from future public office positions.That’s very anti-Agreement! Also when you consider that Paisley is on record standing outside Downing Street and saying on camera that the review which is framed within the Agreement is successful then it can safely be concluded that the DUP are just theives of the UUP clothes and betrayors of those electors who thought they would not enter government with Sinn Fein: e.g. UKUP etc.

  • Butterknife

    Above is conclusive proof from the moderator of the Free Presbyterian Church
    that he has not smashed Sinn Fein and he has not smashed the
    Belfast Agreement. Dare i suggest he is now dwelling on his own legacy in the
    history books – he has succumbed to what many Octogenarians face and  that
    is old age. As he reflects upon his achievements what do they amount to? 

  • IJP

    I always thought I should’ve been called Basil… parents missed a trick there…

  • Will

    Butterknife
    “Above” is nothing other than your own unsubstantiated rantings. Sorry to disappoint you but just because you claim something is true doesnt actually make it true.

    As for your rumours of what Peter Robinson has or hasnt ordered – come back with some actual proof. The track record of reliability of Ulster Unionist rumours isnt exactly sparkling.

  • Will

    IJP,
    ‘Saffron’ might be more at home with the voters of North Down!

  • Davros

    I always thought I should’ve been called Basil… parents missed a trick there…

    To which the sage might reply – maybe they had more important things on their mind at the thyme IJP 🙂

  • Michael Shilliday

    As for your rumours of what Peter Robinson has or hasnt ordered – come back with some actual proof. The track record of reliability of Ulster Unionist rumours isnt exactly sparkling.

    Brewster fits that quite well you know.

  • Keith M

    I can totally understand the frustration of the Trimblite rump of the UUP represented here by Butterknife and Shilliday (not to mention Willowfield) as they watch their beloved party “celebrating” their 100th anniversary by going into the political oblivion in the same way as Faulkner’s UPNI did a generation ago.

    It must be doubley frustrating to see the DUP currently get all the attention, and no doubt in future all the accolades if a deal is done and of course come next May all the unionist seats in Westminster agreement or no agreement.

    While I understand their frustration, it really is very hard to have any sympathy. Had Trimble actually listened to Donaldson on that fateful Good Friday morning in 1998, things might have turned out so differently. By not having a direct link between actual verifiable and transparent decommissioning and the rewards that were handed out to the terrorists, Trimble hammered the first nail into the coffin of the Belfast Agrrement. This allowed SF/IRA to sign up to the Agreement and then only a few weeks later issue a “not a bullet, not an ounce” statement, and we all the know the long slow death of the Agreement since then.

    I watched Reg Empey on “The Politics Show” last Sunday, and you could see the palpable frustration when he talked about the UUP “doing the donkey work”. Unfortunatly there’s a reason why Empey, Trimble and the other nodding donkeys in the UUP only got to do this donkeywork, for like their equivilents in the animal kingdom, the UUP may have stamina, but they are not the most intelligent species and they are prone to ferocious stubborness and those are the two reasons why Trimble still leads them after having the worst elecoral record of an party leader in the UK or Ireland in over 80 years.

  • davidbrew

    And Brewster, whatever happened to Cunningham House interferance in selection meetings?

    Like most things they do it backfired spectacularly! Mind you it nailed Dermot, and alienated McClarty as well as humiliating the tank commander.

    One leading trimble loyalist (surely a contradiction in terms)has already privately told me this is probably the most devastating personal blow for the Turtle yet. Still live in your own litle world if it makes you happy Sillyboy. I hear the next bright UUP thing is Peter Bowles for South Down, BTW. Another votewinner!!!

    As for %age, Donn MvConnell said this a.m. that 240 were eligible to attend. perhaps his maths are as bad as Trimble’s (“we’re going to win 30 seats”!). And when Donaldosn defeated Campbell two elections ago ( now that’s a man who must feel sick sick sick this evening)there was an attendance of nearer 400.

    I look forward to DT canvassing with his candidate and the journalists’ inevitable question ” Is Basil the best candidate for the constituency?”… hope popular Lisburn housewife Daphne isn’t too close when he equivocates.

  • davidbrew

    IJP
    I’ve always seen you as a Gervaise

  • Butterknife

    Will to answer your point about my ‘unsubstantiated rantings’
    (November 26, 2004 01:43 PM). There was included in my post at 1.17pm the fact
    that the leader of the DUP explicitly and expressly stated that it was the review:
    this in turn suggests that the DUP are still working off the Belfast Agreement
    blueprint. Therefore the rumour is given more credence by the DUP’s
    substantiated actions: e.g. words!

    Keith_M: lets get to the heart of the matter. I am unable to answer
    for others on this site, but personally I am not a Trimbleite. As far as i am
    concerned, he is only first among equals until the Council of the UUP, or he,
    decides otherwise.
        Bitterness only clouds the mind and i am far from bitter. The
    DUP are now following the ploughed furrows of the UUP – as a result they come
    across less hardships – they now appreciate the need for power-sharing, they are
    now willing to work with Sinn Fein at Executive level; PRECEDENTS in every sense
    of the word. Are these policy shifts? For being of mature years i can remember
    the leader saying words to the contrary.
        With you I can understand frustration of those who can not
    believe that with the Donaldson attempt at undermining the UUP’s policy and
    thus weakening that position that he jumps to a ship that, arguably, is more
    streamlined and is heading in the same direction as the UUP but yet is prepared
    to say nothing. It can’t be about policy if the DUP is adopting the same policy
    that the UUP would have been adopting when Trimble refused to re-enter an
    Executive with Sinn Fein until a more sizable amount of weapons etc. were
    decommissioned. Was it a personality clash then – Donaldson said no – what do
    you think?   

  • IJP

    If yis could all just find me an attractive girl called Rosemary we could at least make up for my parents’ oversight!

    Yours,
    SJP, or is that GJP…

  • Will

    Butterknife,
    Review/renegotiation – yada yada yada. I’m happy to let the outcome do the talking. Comfort yourself with whatever figleaves you can gather around yourself.

    I was waiting for another stunning ‘rumour’ that you had heard about Peter Robinson. Maybe like the one that I heard that Elvis will be riding shergar past the city hall tonight – honest! an ulster unionist told me!

    Davidbrew raises a very interesting point about who Mr Trimble believes is the best person to represent Lagan Valley. At least we all know he wont be voting for the best person to represent the area, ;-), but then again, bitterness after your wife has been knifed (metaphorically speaking) at a selection meeting could make him do all sorts of things!!

    Is it at all true that a certain former mayor of Lisburn (“who is Jeffrey Donaldson anyway?” being his most famous quote) was the main organiser of the ‘get Trimble’ campaign last night? I know not all rumours are to be believed but just exploring something on the rumourmill.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    “I reckon thats great news, Basil an intelligent and articulate man, all the best to him.”

    His rather stilted interview with the BBC showed him to be anything but. The ‘road we started’ bit was vomit inducing. A card board cut out who makes Alan Mc Farlane seem like Shane Mc Gowan

  • Butterknife

    Now Will just because I actually showed you the proof etc., it doesn’t mean you have to resort to sarcastic comments.

  • Michael Shilliday

    There was no get Trimble campgaign. We just don’t do things from the top down in that regard. We listened, and the better candidate on the night won the nomination.

    I loved Paul Given’s contribution on the radio today (“we were just passing, honest” not being the primary comedy classic), “If the Dr tells me it’s ok, it’s ok”. I sat and listened to a Donaldsonite in a Branch meeting criticise a woman sat infront of him at a UUC meeting for voting according to DT – I wonder what he thought of that comment.

  • alex s

    Have any of the bloggers presently having a go at McCrea ever stood back and looked at Donaldson?

    He has single handley changed the popular perception of an MP from a public representative who votes on legalisation to someone who spends his time being photographed beside pot holes, who would rather be seen unveiling a new ‘speed hump’ than represent his constituents in Westminster.

    A man who fought tooth and nail against policies that his new party is pursuing with enthusiasm, even more damming for his judgement, had he remained he would in all probability have seized the leadership of the Ulster Unionist’s by now, as it is he is condemned to play the part of warm-up man for the main act.

  • Christopher Stalford

    Rebecca Black

    “I reckon thats great news, Basil an intelligent and articulate man, all the best to him.”

    You are to be admired for your brass neck, but you cannot possibly believe that!

  • alex s

    Brewster should throw his own hat into the ring, afterall, not only does he have all the answers, but from the amount of time spent blogging (during office hours) he clearly has the time!

  • alex s

    Christopher, who is the best qualified, McCrea or Donaldson

  • Michael Shilliday

    I know he is intelligent and articulate. How do you know he isn’t Stalford?

  • Moderate Unionist

    The selection of Mr. McCrea does raise some interesting questions. The margin of victory was quite substantial given the fact that many of the Donaldson camp were supposed to have left.

    If it was an attack on Mr. Trimble then why not say so?

    There seems to have been a considerable amount of unity expressed after the event, which does appear to be a new trend.

    In any case, it is my opinion as expressed in previous threads that political dynasties such as Mr. & Mrs Robinson, or Mr. & Mrs. Dodds, or Mr. & Mr. Paisley undermine the democratic process and the public’s confidence in the political system.

    I think it is refreshing to see that democracy still works in certain areas and that this can be achieved without splits.

    Whether he can trouble Mr. Donaldson remains to be seen but it will change the nature of the contest.

  • davidbrew

    Alex s
    don’t you know that like all bloodsuckers I only come out after dark?

  • alex s

    anybody seen a coffin with a modem attached, it must be Brewster in daylight!

  • Moderate Unionist

    Alex SLOL

  • Butterknife

    McCrea v. Donaldson: Donaldson may have a head start around the Mission Halls of Lisburn. But Basil has the Gospel surname; and he lives in Lisburn!

  • jonty

    Now if that had been the DUP and say mrs dodss was not selected they probaly would just suspend the whole association ala east antrim

  • Moderate Unionist

    McCrea v Donaldson does have a certain ring to it. It’s going to be interesting to see how the DUP attack the name McCrea. A well known local songster might get upset, …

    … but then Daniel is probably fed up being told. “You look just look like our local MP, have more than a passing resemblance to a local MLA, are not unlike a prospective councillor, and must be related in some way to the future Minister for Education.” (I wonder what he does in his spare time, maybe he should write a book).

  • unionist_observer

    “I reckon thats great news, Basil an intelligent and articulate man, all the best to him.”

    You are to be admired for your brass neck, but you cannot possibly believe that!

    Christopher

    why do I need to have a brass neck to say and believe that Basil is a good candidate and is an intelligent and articulate man….if you speak to him you’ll see that he is. He’s also a man of actions, he’ll do some good work if elected.

    those are the simple facts, if I didn’t think alot of him I simply wouldn’t comment on his selection.

  • Michael Shilliday

    Not knowing a lot about a person dosn’t prohibit Chris from commenting, clearly.

  • davidbrew

    Now if that had been the DUP and say mrs dodss was not selected they probaly would just suspend the whole association ala east antrim

    or the UUP did in North Down in 1987?

  • jonty

    the UUP was under old management then, the DUP has the same

  • alex s

    If the voters of Lagan Valley are clever then they will put their X at McCrea, that way they will have the services of a full-time MP, Donaldson is rarely in Westminster, at least the voters will get value for money.

    On the subject of taxpayers money, were the Robinsons claiming for one London residence or two?

  • David Vance

    Basil is, bluntly, a wet lettuce from a unionist perspective – and I do know him. Here’s a few questions someone should ask Basil, just to see where he stands.

    1. At what point did he feel it was wrong for Sinn Fein to remain in Government, and why?
    2. How does he define IRA terrorism?
    3. why does he feel that having a party of insurrection seated in Government will establish stability?

    Just curious. I know that the DUP struggle a little with a few of these so I’d be interested to know if our new intelligent Ulster Unionist brethern can do any better. Basil?

  • alex s

    who is the best qualified to be a Member of Parliament, Basil or Jeffrey?

  • Butterknife

    The sitting MP is always more qualified as he or she has the experience etc. but now that Jeffrey Donaldson has vitiated that quality it appears that the only thing endorsing him is the power of his cult status. An MP, MLA and now wanting to become councillor in Lisburn is a bit over the top. I think this mentality of: “He does it so I can too” should stop. How many hours can a human work in a day anyway?

  • unionist_observer

    Well, I think they should bring in a new law to stop people being able to have all three jobs, ie. councillor, MLA and MP. Allow people to do two at most, you cannot possibly do all three jobs to a satifactory standard.

    Furthermore, its very exclusive, it means that only a select few bunch of people get to dominate all the positions, let the new blood in. On the whole it would do NI politics the power of good to get some different faces and different approaches in.

  • Michael Shilliday

    I think it is very clear that Basil is the best candidate in the field for Lagan Valley.

  • Butterknife

    Time will tell but it also depends on the team, and the UUP team have many flaws. If it was a tag team contest i reakon it would have been good to see Basil & Daphne in one corner – maybe she will become his campaign manager, or maybe she will fight Donalson for a council seat!

  • davidbrew

    I think it is very clear that Basil is the best candidate in the field for Lagan Valley.

    and of course you would have said the same thing about Daphne!

  • Will

    I’m surprised we havent had the usual drivel of a statement appearing from the Young Unionists about his selection.

    It usually goes:
    “We are absolutely delighted that (insert name) has been selected for (insert Constituency). This person is under the age of 80 and just goes to show how youthful and energetic the Ulster Unionist Party now is. We see this as a great victory for Young Unionists as not only was this person once young, they also have children. This shows that the Young Unionists are having a great input to UUP policy.”

  • alex s

    Butterknife. “how many hours can a human work in a day”, probably 18 if they abandon their family

  • Christopher Stalford

    Shilliday

    “I think it is very clear that Basil is the best candidate in the field for Lagan Valley.”

    Why? If by best, you mean he appeals to the Ulster Unionist sense of smug self-righteousness and imagined intellectual superiority, you may well be correct. But making you all feel very good about yourself won’t win elections.

    BTW, what about all those fawning prats who gushed about Daphne only to knife her in the back in the selection meeting. You know who they are!

  • Christopher Stalford

    Alex s

    “Butterknife. “how many hours can a human work in a day”, probably 18 if they abandon their family”

    A disgraceful comment!

  • alex s

    how many hours a week does Donaldson work keeping down 2 full-time jobs?

  • alex s

    Christopher, how else could anyone hold down 2 full-time jobs, one of which involves overnight stays in London (costing £18.5K)

  • alex s

    Christopher, where are you?

  • Will

    Alex
    “Christopher, how else could anyone hold down 2 full-time jobs, one of which involves overnight stays in London (costing £18.5K)”

    So how exactly did David Trimble do his job as the MP for Upper Bann when he was not only the Assembly Member for the area, but also the First Minister? Lets remember here, there isnt any party in NI with all single mandate representatives.

    As for family comments – if you want to resort to some kind of gutter sniping then you really have shown the level from which you come. A credit to your party Mr Swan.

  • alex s

    Will, there should be no dual mandates as is the case elsewhere in the UK, as for your reference to my ‘family comments’, I fail to see how anyone can put in the hours required to be an MP and MLA and spend time with their family, I could’nt, and at a time of increasing juvenile deliquency in our society should not policitians lead by example, especially those with young childern?

  • Will

    alex
    Some reduction in the time you get to spend with your family is one of the things which must affect all MPs.

    Surely we hear you droning on about a ‘full-time’ MP, which obviously requires spending time at Westminster. I thought you wanted an MP at Westminster for 3 or 4 days a week at least – how does that fit in with the perfect family life.

    Its hard to evade the fact that you were looking for a way, any way, to have a pop at someone. You just happen to have chosen a fairly nasty way of doing it. As I say, that reflects much more on yourself than on the person you were ‘attacking’. The initial comment still stands – A credit to your party Mr Swan.

  • Butterknife

    So whats the line up for Lagan Valley?

    Basil – UUP
    Jeffrey – DUP
    Seamus – Alliance

  • Butterknife

    If John Lewis does not come to Lisburn will this hurt the DUP in Lisburn?

  • alex s

    Butterknife, hard to say, however if it does come experience gained over the water would suggest it will harm Lisburn itself.

  • Michael Shilliday

    I think it is very clear that Basil is the best candidate in the field for Lagan Valley.

    and of course you would have said the same thing about Daphne!

    And it would have been true. Both Basil and Daphne are better educated, more intelligent and better able to represent Lagan Valley than Jeffrey “its Trimbles fault” Donaldson.

    And as for Stalfords wonderfully insightful comments, on what do you base your assertions?

  • alex s

    and able to put in the hours

  • Butterknife

    Just digressing off the subject alex s but how would it harm Lisburn itself? Do you mean that it would harm the trade in the City Centre? I haven’t done much research into this but my colleague takes the contrary view in that with the excellent M1 just beside it etc it would be ideal – if it did not come to Lisburn would it not relocate to Dublin ….
    I am interested in your analysis on how it would harm Lisburn tho.

  • alex s

    Butterknife from a previous thread…. As a Lisburn ratepayer the most interesting bit in ‘Hearts & Minds’ was the discussion between Reg Empey and the DUP’s Edwin Poots about the pros and cons of the John Lewis store being located at Sprucefield, Poots was all in favour, however have the DUPs thought it through, what effect will the provision of an additional 460 000 sq ft of retail space at Sprucefield will have on Lisburn’s town centre?

    In 1998 the then Minister for the Regions, Regeneration and Planning, Richard Caborn stated local authorities should take note of recent studies into the effects on out of town retailing and should strive to protect town centres.

    Referring to the studies he stated ”this research firmly establishes that out-of- town superstores can seriously damage the health of towns and district centres ….arguments about clawing back trade and creating jobs simply don’t hold water”,

    Without doubt the proposed development will attract custom, but at what cost, what is the benefit of creating jobs at Sprucefield only to lose them in Lisburn itself, what is the benefit to the ratepayers of Lisburn if their town centre is turned into a ghost town as has happened in England and they are at the mercy of a conglomerate with no long term interest in the City and its ratepayers.

    What’s even more striking is that only a few months ago when our local hockey club was proposing to redevelop a section of Wallace Park Poots and Donaldson were determined to protect the cities parkland while now they seem hell-bent on risking the very future Lisburn’s commercial centre.

    At the very least they should justify their position.

    Posted by: alex s at November 27, 2004 04:36 PM

  • Butterknife

    I feel guilty about digressing so in reply to Michael Shilliday’s comment about Donaldson I would ammend that to read Jeffrey “its my vanity’s fault” Donaldson. Or as Queens Unionist (sic) said weeks ago he is now Jeffrey Robinson, a Peter Robinson wannabee.

  • Butterknife

    Mmm, so what you are suggesting is that there may be a net loss of jobs if Lisburn won to Belfast. If that is the case then why is Belfast objecting – Would this argument not apply to them too? As i see it Wallace Park was given to the people of Lisburn – the hockey club was a private concern, but i can see your point. If Lewis is lost it will be interesting to see who the DUP blames. Bets please?

  • Christopher Stalford

    Michael

    “And as for Stalfords wonderfully insightful comments, on what do you base your assertions?”

    My “assetions” are based upon what I heard out of the mouth of an Ulster Unionist Councillor from Lisburn who was sitting at the table next to be in a restaurant!

    “David Trimble’s a hateful man, you can’t have a conversation lasting longer than ten minutes with him…..”

    AND

    “He just thought he could plant his missus on us without so much as a by your leave….”

  • Christopher Stalford

    next to me…. not next to be

    Sorry.

  • Butterknife

    Name the councillor Christopher. If you an unable to, then its tripe.

  • Christopher Stalford

    Butterknife

    I will not name the councillor and you know very well why not – I’m getting married on Friday, I don’t think the future Mrs. Stalford would be terribly pleased by a court appearance before our honeymoon.

    I know what I heard and I know who it was – lets just leave it at that….

  • Butterknife

    Well if its true then you have that defence and the defence of fair comment.
    It is nice to know your statements are to believed while others that do not share your views are not:)

  • Christopher Stalford

    Fair enough Butterknife – you don’t have to believe me – but I know what I heard and I know who said it. In the words of our great Prime Minister “and I like to think that, y’know, I’m a pretty honest kind of a guy” (slight tilt of the head to appear sincere)

    Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to organise table plans…and you thought Northern Ireland politics was complicated!!!

  • Davros

    Congratulations Christopher.

  • Butterknife

    Well as you are getting married I feel the hand of history on your shoulders, but this isn’t the time for sound-bites; rather I hope you catch the same train as your future wife before she leaves the station.

  • alex s

    Buterknife, I am not really interested in the Lisburn v Belfast debate, its the effect a development of this size will have on exising retail outlets in Lisburn’s centre that concerns me, concerns that those promoting Lisburn appear to have ignored.

  • Michael Shilliday

    I know what I heard and I know who it was – lets just leave it at that….

    If you have the gall to make such accusations but not the courage to back them up then I suggest you keep your unsubstanciated claims to yourself Stalford.

    And for the record, no, lets not just leave it at that. I want to know who it was you think you heard.

  • Ian

    Many voters in Lagan Valley are debating whether the numerour posters diplaying pictures of Basil McCrea are a waste of money. Personally I believe Basil Fawlty or Basil Brush would have more chance of defeating of sitting MP.

    Real World believer

  • Ian

    Many voters in Lagan Valley are debating whether the numerour posters diplaying pictures of Basil McCrea are a waste of money. Personally I believe Basil Fawlty or Basil Brush would have more chance of defeating of sitting MP.

    Real World believer

  • Ian

    Many voters in Lagan Valley are debating whether the numerour posters diplaying pictures of Basil McCrea are a waste of money. Personally I believe Basil Fawlty or Basil Brush would have more chance of defeating of sitting MP.

    Real World believer

  • Ian

    Many voters in Lagan Valley are debating whether the numerour posters diplaying pictures of Basil McCrea are a waste of money. Personally I believe Basil Fawlty or Basil Brush would have more chance of defeating of sitting MP.

    Real World believer

  • Ian

    Many voters in Lagan Valley are debating whether the numerour posters diplaying pictures of Basil McCrea are a waste of money. Personally I believe Basil Fawlty or Basil Brush would have more chance of defeating of sitting MP.

    Real World believer

  • Ian

    Many voters in Lagan Valley are debating whether the numerour posters diplaying pictures of Basil McCrea are a waste of money. Personally I believe Basil Fawlty or Basil Brush would have more chance of defeating of sitting MP.

    Real World believer

  • Ian

    Many voters in Lagan Valley are debating whether the numerour posters diplaying pictures of Basil McCrea are a waste of money. Personally I believe Basil Fawlty or Basil Brush would have more chance of defeating of sitting MP.

    Real World believer

  • Ian lyndsay

    Many voters in Lagan Valley are debating whether the numerour posters diplaying pictures of Basil McCrea are a waste of money. Personally I believe Basil Fawlty or Basil Brush would have more chance of defeating of sitting MP.

    Real World believer

  • Alex Swan

    Ian, why so, maybe Lagan Valley needs a bit of decency?

  • Michael Shilliday

    Many voters? Or just you and the “Ms Hall” I recieved an email from this afternoon? Sounded very similar to your post(s)

  • Tiny

    after the goings on at the DUP fundraiser in Drumbo when it is claimed that the Pope was mocked maybe we need a bit of decency in Lagan Valley

  • Tiny

    Ian “Many voters in Lagan Valley are debating whether the numerour posters diplaying pictures of Basil McCrea are a waste of money.” not if “many voters in Lagan Valley” are talking about him they’re not!

  • Tiny

    McCrea is coming across as a ‘new man’ on the scene, when the DUP talk about his lack of experience (which seems to be their only line of attack) a lot of potential voters see this as an advantage, afterall what kind of ‘experience’ do the DUP in the shape of Jeffrey offer, infighting and back stabbing are what spring to mind.
    I honestly believe the DUP in Lagan Valley have over estimated Jeffrey’s personel vote and underestimated the resentment felt that he stole their vote by changing parties weeks after the election, finally the fact remains that in General elections the vast majority have never voted DUP in Lagan Valley.

  • Ted

    Tiny

    “I honestly believe the DUP in Lagan Valley have over estimated Jeffrey’s personel vote and underestimated the resentment felt that he stole their vote by changing parties weeks after the election, finally the fact remains that in General elections the vast majority have never voted DUP in Lagan Valley.”

    Yeah, you hold on to that thought. You forgot to point out that Lagan Valley is a ‘traditional UUP seat’. Jonathan McCullough is bound to be after you for that!

    BTW I can’t believe somebody called Tiny is attacking Jeffrey Donaldson! Lisburn meets Lilliput!