Close call for Seamus…

SEAMUS Close (Alliance) and Gregory Campbell (DUP) have announced that they will be standing for Lagan Valley and Londonderry East in the next Westminster election.

  • peteb

    No slight intended towards Seamus, Gonzo.. but where did UTV get that photo? :o)

  • Davros

    It’s a shocker Pete!

  • ulsterman

    Campbell is a cert.Close would be much better giving his election money to the Catholic Church to help pay for their paedophilia.

    In the election the enemies of Ulster will get one almighty kick up the ass.

    God Save the Queen.

  • alex s

    Jeffrey will be happy!

  • Will

    Alliance’s best ever chance of coming second in Lagan Valley.

    Jeffrey will be happy – Daphnie might be a little nervous.

  • cg

    Any predictions as to how all the other areas will fair.
    I predict the SDLP to lose all their seats to Sinn Fein, bar possibly South Down.

    Mc Grady will be tough for Catriona Ruane to beat.
    Saying that, South Down did see a significant swing towards Sinn Fein. It will certainly be interesting next year.

    Davros prefer to make any predictions at this stage.

  • IJP

    Given that he stands for Alliance, Seamus Close could in many ways be seen on election results as Northern Ireland’s best ‘pound for pound’ politician!

    Rightly so, his brand of decisive intolerance of intolerance and his vision of a genuinely cohesive society functioning for all deserve far more support than even he gets. I wish him, and the outrageous yellow Hyundai Coupe (!), well.

  • WATCHER

    Seamus,

    Don’t bother wasting Allaince Party money. You haven’t got a hope. In fact the ‘snowball in hell’ stands a better chance than you do in Langan Valley. The reality is that the Alliance Party is a total and complete irrelevance in NI politics – it hasn’t a chance anywhere in Ulster.

  • Henry94

    The Alliance appear to be opting for a policy of helping the DUP. That has been their consistent position since the Assembly elections. They are pathetic transfer whores.

  • Butterknife

    Watcher is right: The prove needed is there in the last Stormont Elections – where the smaller Loyalist party’s vote went to the DUP; thereby helping to promote the façade of the destruction of pluralistic politics within Ulster (sic).

    The UUP have two candidates for Lagan Valley – it’s a bit of a catch 22 situation for them – do they go for the brand name but with baggage and thus giving ammunition to their enemies or do they go for an unknown who may revitalise the local party?

  • Butterknife

    …proof …. *cough*

  • Davros

    cg- party political rivalry isn’t my thing 🙂 I’m interested in culture, heritage and all that kind of thing.

  • cg

    “cg- party political rivalry isn’t my thing”

    Fine Davros no bother.
    I was just looking for a “unionist” prospective on how they see the unionist mp seats going next year.

  • IJP

    Please don’t reduce the quality of your usually very good and interesting postings by resorting to nonsense, Henry.

    Alliance’s proposals were published in January this year, well before the DUP’s. If DUP ‘transfer whores’ want to adopt some of Alliance’s principles, fine!

    Alliance will continue to stand up for inclusive government and agreed civic values – a clear principle. Not that other parties would understand the term ‘principle’…

  • Henry94

    IJP

    Maybe “transfer whore” was a bit on the strong side. Let’s just say, outrageous political flirts.

  • irishman

    Seamus Close will be relegated to fourth in the forthcoming Lagan Valley election, behind the unionists and Sinn Fein. This has been on the cards for a while in Lagan Valley – look at the Assembly results last November for evidence of Close’s declining appeal in Lagan Valley. When you add to that the appeal to Alliance-minded voters of a pro-agreement UUP candidate, I think you will see the grave difficulties facing Close in the immediate future.

  • IJP

    Henry

    If that’s the DUP you’re referring to, fair play. If it’s Alliance, your comment is distinctly lacking in any evidence.

    Would that Alliance was even clever enough to be a ‘political flirt’… 🙂

  • davidbrew

    well it seems you had the wit to reject the advances of Tim the Lemon !

  • Will

    Interesting mentions of political flirting given what was revealed this morning.

    Little more than ‘flirting’ coming from the Ulster Unionists towards Alliance – some may call that sort of thing bribery given that a party would never stand aside for nothing. What were the UUP offering in return?

  • davidbrew

    Will
    Devenport says a peerage for Ford. How many peerages are left to trimble and why still no DUP Lords. Almost makes you think the honours system is corrupt….

  • PS

    A British system corrupt David?

    Surely not!

  • Davros

    That would be a contradiction in terms Patrick !

  • Will

    I’m assuming that Alliance have dismissed this idea out of hand (going by comments from Alliance people on here in the past). A peerage would hardly be sufficient anyway for what would be entering into a suicide pact with the UUP.

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Tim Lemon, UUP Director of Elections, was on Talkback just now. I have a feeling he might later regret some of what he said… possibly more later on this.

  • davidbrew

    Now we know he’s been hidden in the backroom.

    It’s not a very auspicious debut when even Seamus Close -aka Mr Yappy- appears magisterial in his condescension to you. On at least three occasions the Lemon talked of seats going to the DUP because the Alliance wouldn’t step aside. So that’s the earliest concession speech in history for Reg and Daphne then. Bet they’re thrilled.

    Still, no need to blow any of that hard earned Nobel nest egg on campaigning

  • Belfast Gonzo

    davidbrew

    On an initial check, it would appear that the DUP know more about aspects of the UUP election strategy than the UUP Director of Elections…

    Absolutely bizarre.

  • davidbrew

    Gonzo, you have added to my list of phrases you never expect to hear from the UUP-

    1 UUP election strategy

    2 No thanks I don’t feel I deserve a peerage

    3 I miss Jeffrey

    4 You don’t think David may have a made a mistake there, do you?

    5 It’s time to listen to the electorate and change the policy

    6 That Michael McGimpsey cracks me up, especially when he tells that one about the actress and the bishop

    7 No guns no government

    8 isn’t it great that our branch has brought it’s average age down to 82?

    9 No surrender

    10 Anybody but Dermot (Oh sorry-that one has actually been used in party circles)

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Can anyone confirm that a senior Trimble ally (no smirking) walked out of the UUP Assembly group meeting this morning after hearing the report by Mark Devenport on Radio Ulster this morning?

  • Will

    Gonzo
    That would just add to the arguments in Lisburn regarding the overtures they are making towards Gary McMichael in the hope he will run for the UUP in the council elections.

    Rumour has it that their group leader in Lisburn has stepped down from his post because of this and two other councillors have threatened to resign from the party if McMichael is a UUP candidate.

  • Belfast Gonzo

    How many will resign if Daphne Trimble stands?

    *snigger*

  • Will

    Now now Gonzo… no need for that (well maybe just a little).

    Fair play to Seamus Close though – it was solid gold stuff – he also does a nifty line in Fawlty Towers quotes!!

  • IJP

    Fair play to Seamus Close though – it was solid gold stuff

    It always is from him!

  • Michael Shilliday

    Seamus Close will be relegated to fourth in the forthcoming Lagan Valley election, behind the unionists and Sinn Fein. This has been on the cards for a while in Lagan Valley – look at the Assembly results last November for evidence of Close’s declining appeal in Lagan Valley.

    Seamus wont poll well at all, but could you tell me where all these extra SF voters are going to come from? The bulk of SF wards in Lisburn Council are in West Belfast and not Lagan Valley, they maxed out on 3000 last year, it wont rise. The SDLP vote will probably hold out given their strength in Glenavy/Ballinderry.

  • irishman

    Seamus wont poll well at all, but could you tell me where all these extra SF voters are going to come from? The bulk of SF wards in Lisburn Council are in West Belfast and not Lagan Valley, they maxed out on 3000 last year, it wont rise. The SDLP vote will probably hold out given their strength in Glenavy/Ballinderry.

    Sinn Fein out-polled the SDLP in Lagan Valley (Not Lisburn Council, Michael) in the Assembly election last year. The Sinn Fein vote will have continued to rise since then, particularly in areas like Glenavy/ Ballinderry. The SDLP are on the way out in these areas, as their current difficulties in finding election candidates across the north illustrates.

  • Belfast Gonzo

    The SDLP were due to propose a motion tonight in Lisburn City Council calling for d’Hondt to be used in official appointments.

    Has anyone done the maths? The SDLP would appear to be trying to rule themselves out of ever getting a senior position in the Council – using the d’Hondt procedure means they won’t ever get anything significant.

    I realise this is part of their ‘Flush out the DUP on power sharing’ idea taking shape, but since the SDLP won’t be able to share power if the motion succeeds, it’s a strange one all right.

  • irishman

    Gonzo,
    I suspect the Alliance may oppose the motion due to similarly self-interested motives, given that Alliance and SDLP have only 3 cllrs each in Lisburn. In any case, certainly a posed for Close et al….

  • davidbrew

    “Can anyone confirm that a senior Trimble ally (no smirking) walked out of the UUP Assembly group meeting this morning after hearing the report by Mark Devenport on Radio Ulster this morning?” saith Gonzo

    It wouldn’t have been because his wasn’t one of the seats being set off against the peerage by any chance. I heard there were four seats involved. Now Lagan Valley, East Antrim and east Belfast have all been trailed, meaning no help for Burnside (surprise surprise), McClarty, Mcgimski Jr etc etc.

    But just who was the fourth candidate? Obviously Lady Sylvia, I hear you say. Might it not have been the candidate for Upper Bann? After all, it’s every man for himself, and even though he might bluster about running Daphne’s constituency office if he’s dumped, wee all know that’s not going to happen.

    Jeffrey,as a Biblical student, will remember the fate of one of the jewish kings in captivity who was reduced to serving his Babylonian (?) masters. So perhaps he can find a “fresh challenge” in the Lagan Valley DUP -“Trimble these shoes aren’t nearly clean enough!”

  • Will

    Gonzo
    “I realise this is part of their ‘Flush out the DUP on power sharing’ idea taking shape,”

    More of a busted flush on the part of the SDLP. It might be all very nice and doing wonders internally within the SDLP, but it isnt making the slightest impact in the wider scene.

    Also, any further hints on who walked out of the UUP meeting?