Kelly takes potshot at weapons conference…

AS a PSNI officer cops flak *groan* for using CS gas spray in a Derry disturbance, Dublin hosts a conference on less-lethal weapons. Gerry Kelly has called for an end to plastic bullets ahead of the conference, but then the IRA always did prefer the more-lethal alternative. Dublin’s left seems equally outraged at the Jane’s Defence-sponsored event. Pick up a brochure here, but if you’re protesting outside, remember to duck if staff decide to demonstrate products in the field.

Since the NIO is still looking for an alternative to plastic bullets, you never know who might be at the conference. This gives an insight into current Government thinking. Tasers anyone?

  • Cahal

    Derry is a great city.
    However at the weekend, after midnight it morphs into a scary place.

    “The police said it was used in Victoria car park after a man was attacked by up to 30 youths, and a few hours later in Waterloo Place to break up a fight. “

    As far as I am concerned, these thugs (youths!) deserve all they get. The poor guy getting beat up by 30 of then probably didn’t get off as lightly.

  • willowfield

    Kelly would be better calling for an end to the illegal, live bullets possessed by his private army.

  • Rebecca Black

    Indeed Willowfield

    At a Northern Ireland debate in TCD last night, there was a Dublin shinner getting very worked up about the “occupation troops”, how SF were being spied on and how in the 70s and 80s nobody would let Sinn Fein talk on TV or radio and how all their “volunteers” were getting killed – yeah coz its not like the IRA were shooting dead completely innocent people….

    incidentally this Dublin TD only joined Sinn Fein in 1993 so how he technically had experience of all this seems somewhat shady!

  • willowfield

    Sounds like a saddo, whoever he or she was.

  • George

    Se

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Belfast City centre is a scary place at the weekend especially around Shaftsbury Square where there are people getting pummelled by mobs on a regular basis.
    Rather than use CS gas the PSNI that i’ve seen prefer to finish off their bargain buckets and stay out of the cold by sitting in their landrovers..

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Pat

    We’ve obviously passed each other in the street. I was that victim!

    How the PSNI failed to see the fight, which must have been oh, a whole 10 yards from the Landrovers, I’ll never know. Still got the busted ankle…

  • George

    Derry on a Friday night was the scariest place I’ve ever been.
    The whole city seemed to be between 15 and 25, drunk and looking for trouble.

  • Nathan

    If the Provisional Republican Movement had their way with this issue in the 1980s, then on our TV screens we would have seen the RUC acting like a service of sitting ducks popping their heads up to the surface in troubled times to quack, get pelted, be shot at and be bombed.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Nathan,
    we are talking about 2004 not 20 odd years ago. There is an obvious need to have the wherewithal to deal with 30 odd scumbags pummelling a lone youth. But there does seem to be a discrepancy between the use of CS spray in Derry and every other place.
    I would imagine that Belfast is no different than Derry but there is few (if any instances) of CS spray being used here.
    I know that Derry people do like a whinge but they do seem to have a point here.

    BTW Gonzo sorry for hurdling you as you lay injured.

  • Davros

    Pat, I cannot decide – which do you want?

    Parity of Pummelling or Parity of gassing between Derry and Belfast ?

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Pat

    No problem mate. If you’d stuck around to help, the PSNI would probably have laid into me too(!)

    :op

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Davros,

    I simply want an explanation as to why the PSNI in Derry seem to be using the spray out of all proportion to all other areas.
    As stated I don’t believe Derry is that much different from central Belfast of a weekend.
    I believe its even been known for things to get out of hand in Bangor after closing time.

  • Davros

    Pat, I understand and I agree with your concern. Now I’m happy to state that I don’t think Derry Police were wrong to use CS gas when a lad was taking a hammering, and I would support the Police using CS gas in similar circumstances in Belfast and Bangor – in fact , no , I’ll not write what I think of Bangor as Mick will red card me 😉

    So, I vote for Parity of gassing.

    Which way do you Vote ?

    ps … in respect of
    I know that Derry people do like a whinge

    does Martin McGuinness read this site ?
    God Bless 🙂

  • Nathan

    Pat

    The frequency with which CS gas is been used in Derry needs to be thoroughly investigated if there is the slightest suspicion that the people of Derry have been deliberately singled out for guinea pig style laboratory experimentation.

    Personally, I’d like to see a moratorium on the usage of CS gas until a more convincing argument is put forward supported by a wealth of research.

    This journal has an interesting take on the matter.

    Can you tell me whether there has been a thorough examination of the use of water canon or even stink bombs as a replacement for potentially lethal weapons such as plastic bullets when faced with unruly situations?