Village magazine majors on the DUP

Ireland’s newest political weekly, the Village, launches with big coverage of the DUP’s trip to Dublin and is decidedly more upbeat about it significance that most other publications, Irish or otherwise.

“Not quite the road to Damascus but the road to Dublin is a significant journey for us”, one senior DUP source tells Suzanne Breen. There’s even a claim that the Dublin visit should be a confidence building measure for Nationalists. And later, “we’re showing we aren’t inflexible bigots. We’re deadly serious about a deal. Ian likes Bertie. There’s a rapport there. They can do business”.

And editor Vincent Browne goes back more than thirty years to the night in the Europa, when Paisley told RTE man in Belfast then Liam Lourican, that “…if the people in the south really want the protestants of the northn to join them in a united Ireland then they should scrap entirely the 1937 constitution and ensure that the Roman Catholic hierarchy could no longer exercise an improper influence on politics”.

There’s also a piece from Gerry Adams on what he sees as the passive hold of Unionists on British political action.

Unfortunately, there’s very little on the website yet, so you’ll have to shell out for the content. This week at least it’s good value for northerners. And worth the price. But the question many will be asking is, can they keep it up?

  • Davros

    Link is a 404 Mick. Seems..appropriate for the DUP πŸ˜‰

  • Gerry O’Sullivan

    Try this one, Davros

  • Davros

    Thanks Gerry. I wonder will it be available here in the six ? Sounds interesting and has to be better than Fortnight πŸ˜‰

  • Keith M

    On the cover it quotes a sterling price (

  • George

    Keithm,
    mainland? I assume you mean Irish communities in Britain or did I miss us rejoining the union over the weekend?

  • Keith M

    George I was speaking about the UK. Read the section again and learn to be less sensitive. I’ve learned to put up with nonsense like “6 counties” and “26 counties” when both terms are long since obsolete. I no longer comment on such errors and simply put them down to ignorance.

  • Gerry O’Sullivan

    Keith M

    I no longer comment on such errors and simply put them down to ignorance.

    So can we put your reference to “the mainland” down to ignorance, too?

  • maca

    Actually Keith was right there, he was talking about the UK, NI & the mainland πŸ˜‰

  • Davros

    People on the Aran Islands refer to Ireland as the mainland πŸ˜‰

  • George

    Keithm,
    The mainland for the Village and yourself as an Irish citizen is Ireland. You could arguably use “British mainland” in the post above.

    Just because others use terms such as six counties and 26 counties doesn’t excuse sticking in “Republic” and “mainland” every chance you get to grind your political axe. It makes you as ignorant as them.

  • Billy Pilgrim

    Davros.

    I know we’ve been over this one before, but it’s a little insulting the way you conflate Ireland with the Aran islands. Ireland deserves to be treated with more respect. Ireland should be taken seriously due to the achievements of its people, not just because it’s an island.

    Independence for the Arans would be absurd. Like the Arans, Ireland is an island adjacent to a larger island. This doesn’t mean it’s absurd to think of Ireland as an entity worthy of being taken seriously. Scale is significant.

    Wouldn’t you consider it insulting to suggest that Britain was not entitled to be taken seriously as a political construct on the grounds that, sure, isn’t it just a lump of rock in the sea anyway? And until there’s a people’s republic of Shetland, what right have the people of Britain to complain about their government being in Paris?

    Either all islands are independent or else they should all be ruled from the `mainland’, you argue. I don’t have to tell you this is nonsense.

  • Davros

    Billy … there was a πŸ˜‰ after the reference to the Arans!

    The “mainland” used by my community reflects the reality that we are offshore from the larger unit of our political entity …the UK. The people on Aran Islands do refer to the mainland. The people of Skye and Eigg talked of coming from the mainland in respect of goods and visitors arriving from Scotland.

    it’s a term that reflects and originates in heritage and heritage is always contested .

    Archipelagos within Archipelagos.

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Isn’t Ireland that small, insignficant island off the west coast of Wales?

    ;o)

  • Davros

    One of them Gonzo πŸ™‚

  • maca

    “Isn’t Ireland that small, insignficant island off the west coast of Wales?”

    To be more specific it’s the insignficant little green spec lying at 53 00N, 8 00W on an insignficant inferior terrestrial planet called Earth, part of the ‘inner solar system’ and approx 1Au from Sol, the center of said system, Sol itself being just an insignficant G2 star, one of about 100 billion stars in this particular insignficant galaxy, this galaxy, the Milky Way, of course is only one of approx. 500 billion insignficant galaxies in this insignficant area of the unknown universe.

  • Davros

    Now you are making us feel very insignificant Maca!

  • maca

    We are that Davros. Our entire existence is insignificant, even on this planet along.

  • Davros

    There’s a great program about to start soon on BBC
    Maca “Bits of Belfast”- Gerry Armstrong the Footballer revisits the Falls Road.

  • Fraggle

    when he said ‘mainland’, I thought he was on about the irish people in brussles etc.

  • Fraggle

    maca, I play that there’s intelligent life somewhere up in space because there’s bugger all down here on earth.

  • Fraggle

    ‘pray’ that should have been

  • maca

    Fraggle: No doubt there’s some giant slugs on some planet with more brains that ourselves.

    Davros: Don’t know much about Gerry. Just reading his site, http://www.gerry-armstrong.com

  • Davros

    Superb program Maca.

    Clonard Crypts used as air raid shelters by both communities, Falls and Shankill, during the Blitz – interview with a wonderful priest that by chance was featured in the Irish News … he’s 100. All sorts of interesting shots and memories – the Old Baths were used as a Mortuary for all the Belfast dead during the Blitz.

    One especially interesting thing for me was that Ron Greenwood when he was in the RAF (stationed in Maghera) played soccer for Belfast Celtic.

    Another very relaxed interview with Mr Adams about the Feile.

    Interesting interview with two guys who started Mural painting in Belfast after the Hunger strikes… it was only recently that I found out that Mural painting before the Hunger Strikes was a “protestant” thing. One major exception being the famous “Free Derry”.

    some great interviews – the Taxi Driver used the classic Belfast “theee ” for Three and “ontil”
    as in put yer bum ontil that seat.

    Wonderful trips round the cemetaries with Cllr Tom Hartley. I wouldn’t ever think of going round Milltown.

    Interesting stuff from Conway Mill and Dr Eamonn Phoenix at the Site of the Police station.

  • maca

    Sounds interesting. Would like to be able to see programs like these…

    Speaking of “air raid shelters”, sorry to digress. Did you know that over here they have to provide bomb shelters for building of at least 600 m

  • Davros

    I suppose it’s inevitable when one lives next door to the Soviets. That landscape looks a bit like one would expect in Israel. I have saved the picture, thanks Maca. Might be useful for an essay πŸ˜‰
    Do people in Finland talk much about the civil war ?

  • smcgiff

    ‘Would like to be able to see PROGRAMS like these…’

    ‘There’s a great PROGRAM about to start soon on BBC’

    I take it Willowfield is on slugger sabatical! ;o)

  • maca

    Davros
    “Do people in Finland talk much about the civil war?”

    No, painful times. But they are happy to talk about the Winter War against the russians, they kicked ass.
    (ps I don’t know if the pic is copyrighted, got it here http://www.enlight.ru/camera/index_e.htm )

    smcgiff: no fear, WF is lurking here somewhere.

  • Gerry O’Sullivan

    I take it Willowfield is on slugger sabatical! ;o)

    smcgiff: no fear, WF is lurking here somewhere.

    One way to find out…

    What do you think of Ireland’s chances against France at the weekend? Or do you think Ireland could slip up against the Faroe’s next week? πŸ˜‰

  • smcgiff

    ‘One way to find out…’

    Someone told me they predicted the UUP are due to fight it out with the APNI to be the fourth biggest party at the next election! ;o)

    Ya know we’re only messing!!

  • maca

    I think Ireland will beat France, Trezeguet is out, Vierra is suspended and after the bunch of retirements last month the French are a shawdow of their former selves. So Ireland should win this one. Isn’t it Cyprus that Ireland are playing next week?

  • smcgiff

    ‘What do you think of Ireland’s chances against France at the weekend? Or do you think Ireland could slip up against the Faroe’s next week? ;)’

    Being from North West and South of the border, it took me a while to figure that one out, Gerry!!

  • maca

    a shawdow is similar to a shadow :-\

  • smcgiff

    ‘a shawdow is similar to a shadow :-\’

    I just thought that was your accent, loike!

  • maca

    are ye sayn ders sumtin wrong wit me aksent, ya hoor? πŸ˜‰

  • Congal Claen

    Hi Smcgiff,

    “What do you think of Ireland’s chances against France at the weekend?”

    Now do you seriously think that when some people query where the mainland is that ye’re gonna get away with that?

    Sooooo, when did this “Ireland” team form? Is it mainland Ireland? Does it include the Aaran Islands? Is NI part of it? Etc, etc, etc…

    Pedantic best wishes…

  • Gerry O’Sullivan

    There you go – Congal Claen is Willowfield in disguise :o)

  • smcgiff

    ‘Pedantic best wishes…’

    At the risk of being pedantic – It was Gerry’s trap you fell into!

    BTW, Republic of Ireland doesn’t have the same chanting ring to it. The same way as NI supporters chant, Norn Iron (or is that just to my ear?):o)

  • Congal Claen

    Hi Gerry/Smcgiff,

    Having now read the thread may I now confirm I’m a big ejeet… Not just both feet, I reckon I feel in up to my neck…

  • smcgiff

    Hi Congal,

    It’s all part of our devious plan – first we make you doubt your posts, then the border!! ;o)

  • Congal Claen

    Hi Smcgiff,

    Is that the plan or not? Fek, I’ll have to read thro the thread again just in case… I may need a drink before my head melts.

    Anyhow, back at the ranch. I reckon “Ireland” will have trouble against France. 3-0 I reckon. (to France in case ye ask)

  • smcgiff

    Shouldn’t that be the ‘French Republic’ to be us 3-0? :o)

    I also think it’s going to be tough, with a draw a very good result for us. The French may have lost a lot of their midfielders, but their replacements are hardly journeymen! 3-0 would be (wildly optimistically) stretching it though!

  • Congal Claen

    Hi Smcgiff,

    As political France is the same area as geographical France I don’t there’s any confusion.

    Bar Damien Duff, who would struggle, do you think there’s anyone on the RoI side that would make the Arsenal team never mind France? I stand by 3-0, with my knife, fork and hat at the ready…

  • smcgiff

    Hi Congal,

    The Irish team (I’m assuming it’s okay in this context as we haven’t mentioned the other ‘Irish’ team) has always (similar to the other Irish team) been greater than the sum of its parts, arguably until relatively recently, the opposite of France.

    Another moot point – I

  • maca

    France are without Trezeguet (injured), Vierra (suspended), Makelele, Zidane, Thuram, Lizarazu and Desailly (all retired).
    They have a great young striker but I don’t think they’ll manage 3-0. They only managed a scoreless draw with Israel and only put two past the Faroe Isles.

  • smcgiff

    Any other serving suggestions for Congal, or even ingredients for my humble pie, if the need arises?

    Although, there are no excuses for the 1998 world champions for not doing better against Israel and the FI, they should be more up for it against qualification contenders.

  • Gerry O’Sullivan

    Congal

    Chapeau saut

  • Congal Claen

    Hi Gerry,

    I wouldn’t recommend hats as a delicacy. Mine has been repeating on me since Saturday night.

    Republic played well. Probably their best ever result. Possibly with the exception of the win over Italy in the US.