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  1. Comment on UPDATED Recrimination of the day: Adams blames policemen for their own death.
    on 5 December 2013 at 6:39 pm

    ‘Have I missed something? There’s just been an inquiry into historical killings, and not one single Unionist has complained about the cost. Quite bizarre.
    Still, if ‘riddled with contradictions’ is your favourite literary genre, then Smithwick’s for you.’

    nope, I complained about the cost as soon as it came out. If the families get something out of it then that is great but as with all of these enquiries, it doesn’t really take us much further on. Great to see Adams getting tortured in the media but that’s about it really.

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  2. Comment on Judge Smithwick finds there was indirect evidence of collusion between Garda(i) and the IRA
    on 3 December 2013 at 8:37 pm

    Good to see the truth but does is it really worth all the money? we know some pretty horrific things happened back in the day but is anyone going to be brought to justice over it? No.

    There has to be a better way of dealing with these cases.

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  3. Comment on Robinson U turn shows the urgent need for mediation
    on 18 August 2013 at 8:40 pm

    Cynic has is bang on. Risk my backside. Most Unionists want nothing to do with the Maze albeit at the same time, don’t care too much as long as it ain’t some kind of glorification.

    Robbo will be looking for some kinda result on parading and assurances that the maze site can’t be used for some kind of rewriting of history,

    More than achievable. He had to do it really. Without the maze ace card, Unionists would have had little in the back pocket for leverage. As cynic says, he can now deliver the maze… (for a favour or two….)

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  4. Comment on The Robinson letter
    on 15 August 2013 at 8:29 pm

    ah, calm down. The DUP have just taken back a bargaining chip….. smart move actually….

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  5. Comment on Time for the Orange (from the Grand Lodge through Grand Masters down) to live up to its own values?
    on 19 July 2013 at 8:25 am

    In my experience the OO outside greater belfast is a completely different animal. As a young pup I’d have reguarly attended parades across Fermanagh and Tyrone and genuinely would have struggled to find much in the way of bad benhaviour. However, since going to Uni and living in Belfast for about 15 years, I’ve watched an 1hr of one twelth parade and been unfortunate enough to be stuck in traffic when a couple of local bands have stumbled by. A lot of the bands in belfast come across even to me as intimidating and aggressive and from the limited parades I have seen in Belfast the parades attract a reasonable number of eejits making it far from family friendly.

    The OO in Belfast need to start booting bands out of the parades in order to start earning the credibility they so desperately need.

    I guess what makes Belfast different from many areas in NI are the large areas of deprivation, unemployment and lack of education and it’s these areas that were hit hardest during the troubles and indeed it’s these areas where parading is probably still strongest within the city. For the order to start turning away bands and ‘supporters’ from these areas I guess would be a tough thing to do.

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  6. Comment on Belfast No 2 District wants to try again: #Ardoyne
    on 17 July 2013 at 8:37 pm

    ‘They cannot be that dumb so I am thinking is there more to this?’

    lol, that made me laugh….

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  7. Comment on Returning to the Problem of Incentives: An Ardoyne Twelfth
    on 16 July 2013 at 8:15 pm

    I’ve purposely not posted until now as it’s such an emotive subject in NI that I thought I’d wait and let the dust settle.

    Firstly, I suppose the obvious point is that the parades commission are in a no-win situation. Whatever they come up with will almost inevitably result in fairly significant dissorder as witnessed year in, year out so I do feel sympathy for them. When it comes to descisions like this I always think their best chance is to annoy both sides equally which they almost did last year. The problem being that the OO had to go crazely out of their way which incensed residents (not that it would have taken much).
    Ultimately, the OO did pretty much exactly what they asked and I guess that is why they were pretty aggrieved this year and of course on the backdrop of the flegs issue, it was pretty clear what was going to happen.

    The OO and Unionist politicians certainly inflamed the situation IMHO – basically telling loyalists that the PC rewarded violence so go forth and create mahem. Well, not quite but with no clear protect strategy as such then that was always what was going to happen.

    Ultimately the only resolution as we have heard ad naseum is for some local resolution. Certainly there are other sensitive ‘hot spots’ in NI which seem to have managed to do this so there is certainly hope. However, based on the last couple of years you’d have to be sceptical.

    From a unionist perspective, i certainly see no reason why the OO shouldn’t go into dialogue and perhaps call SF’s bluff….

    Ultimately, there will always need to be come body to oversee such discussions and make the hard decisions when local agreements cannot be reached. Perhaps if they had a ‘rule book’ or made it clearer how determinations were made then at least everyone would be clear on what to work towards.
    e.g. you get rewarded for no violence and adherring to their restictions and you get rewarded for entering meaningful dialogue throughout the year.

    Tough one to crack though.

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  8. Comment on Lions…..Lucky
    on 22 June 2013 at 7:54 pm

    Can’t see Aussie playing much better than today but the Lions have plenty left. Can only get better.

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  9. Comment on Lions…..Lucky
    on 22 June 2013 at 4:52 pm

    Would have been criminal for the Lions to have lost that one. Nicely on top for the 1st 60 but the scrum disintegrated with 20 to go. Some terrific performances I thought with the Irish contingent doing really well. Yes, Aussie should have snatched it at the end but the best team on the day won. If Roberts returns to the side, I could see a 3-0 whitewash.

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  10. Comment on Sinn Féin Minister hit by PSNI jeep following Tour of the North
    on 22 June 2013 at 1:20 pm

    How this cannot be obstruction of the police is beyond me. Pretty funny though.

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  11. Comment on Let’s praise David Cameron for creating a brilliant showcase
    on 19 June 2013 at 8:15 pm

    yeah, pretty amazing it went so well really. Good work.

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  12. Comment on Shane gets the Lions roaring..
    on 16 June 2013 at 9:54 am

    No Roberts? Is that because of injury? The backrow is a nightmare – both SOB and Tuparic could well make it.
    Who is fit for the 14? Zebo looked okay yesterday from what I saw. Is cuthbert wrecked?

    Lions look very good so far but we’ll not know anything until the 1st test.

    Watched the blacks without Ritchie and Dan hammer france – sensational stuff. England really on the up too with 2 great performances in Argentina and Scots did well in SA.

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  13. Comment on What was your sporting moment of 2012?
    on 22 December 2012 at 7:54 pm

    Personally, it was being at thomand park to watch Ulster beat Munster in the HEC quarters – amazing day.

    Ryder cup was stunning. Man city amazing, chelski superb and of course Bradley Wiggins the sensation on 2 wheels.

    Amazing year for sport.

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  14. Comment on One rule for the City of Belfast and another for the City of Newry?
    on 4 December 2012 at 8:25 pm

    struggling to believe that the SDLP voted in favour of such madness. Sick actually.

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  15. Comment on Brolly’s Altruistic Act
    on 6 October 2012 at 7:29 pm

    cracking act of friendship. a good news story indeed.

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  16. Comment on Judge rules oral history tape release would not “materially increase the risk to his life or that of his family”
    on 3 October 2012 at 8:10 pm

    ‘ Covenanter (profile) 2 October 2012 at 6:31 pm
    Are we supposed to believe that the PSNI/Brit Intelligence doesn’t already know full details of the McConville Kidnap/Killing? This charade is nuts.

    I think that the strong suspicion is that the evil Brit war machine was fully aware of the crimes of certain senior republicans, but that they took no action against them because they recognised the potential for doing business with them.’

    I would say this is bang on the money. Adams and Mcguiness delivered a peaceful solution to NI. Why would you pop them in prison and risk collapsing the entire house of cards?
    The question is not so much, why do the authorities not investigate them but rather why so many decent folk give guys with such a past their vote. Okay, taking a terrorist organisation away from violence is fabulous but at the end of the end, some pretty terrible deeds took place up to that point.

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  17. Comment on Respect?
    on 3 October 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Submariner (profile) 3 October 2012 at 12:41 am
    Sub ,

    That’s a very black and white view …obviously some people felt they had no choice esp in the early stages of the conflict …and on both sides .

    Mark im a black and white sort of a guy. Same goes for members of the security forces. They also knew the risks when they joined up and i say this as an ex serviceman. I dont buy into all this poor lads out in Iraq/Afganistan bullshit. They chose to pick up a gun and join whatever branch of the armed forces knowing the risks involved. As my old Skipper used to say if ya cant take a joke ya shouldnt have joined. Black Humor i know but still true.

    We’ll not hear you moan on about Loughall or Gibaltor then?

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  18. Comment on Europe take the Ryder Cup home (against all reasonable hope)!!!
    on 1 October 2012 at 8:50 pm

    as for his passion for the fleg, well as I understand it he went to a state school around Holywood, a fairly Unionist heartland. I assume he went to School and realized all prods weren’t sectarian bigots. He probably also befriended a lot of footy and rugger folk who associated with the fleg and he found them not to be paramilitary gun-slingers. I’d say unlike many of the folk on this forum he hasn’t spent his entire life in a loyalist or republican bubble and has actually befriended folk from many backgrounds.

    More importantly, to roll in, 5 mins before tee off is just cool. Hats off.

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  19. Comment on Europe take the Ryder Cup home (against all reasonable hope)!!!
    on 1 October 2012 at 8:44 pm

    well sub, I guess you’d better tuck the tricolour away in a drawer then as it’s affiliated with republican paramilatories… yawn yawn yawn.

    I’d say Rory is a typical Catholic growing up in modern-day NI. He ain’t much fussed about politics but has grown up in NI and is proud to be from here. End of the day it’s up to him but the fact that it winds you up does cheer me up I have to admit lol.

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  20. Comment on Europe take the Ryder Cup home (against all reasonable hope)!!!
    on 1 October 2012 at 7:18 pm

    No doubt about it – Rory makes it pretty clear he’s from Northern Ireland lol. Not sure why they started signing ‘we’re not brazil we’re NI’ but what the heck.

    Anyway, besides the usual political points scoring exercise it was quite a sensational comeback. I’m more of a euro-sceptic but it’s pretty cool that they all come together and play as a team. Extraordinary performance.

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