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  1. Comment on “why should we as a people even consider absolving you of murder in such circumstances?”
    on 18 March 2014 at 4:06 pm

    I’m curious as to where Trevor gets his figures from they seem wrong

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  2. Comment on Tony Benn and his lifelong argument for democracy… RIP
    on 15 March 2014 at 2:31 pm

    MU the people of NI were just not enduring a campaign of IRA terror but also a vicious sectarian terror campaign waged by loyalists which you seem to have completely overlooked in a typically unionist way.

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  3. Comment on Tony Benn and his lifelong argument for democracy… RIP
    on 15 March 2014 at 2:25 pm

    Which leaves you a more extreme Irish Republican than the IRA. Which is some achievement.

    MU I am by no stretch of the imagination an Irish republican extreme other otherwise. I resent your labelling me as such but understand that it is a typical unionist stance to label Nationalists as such,it’s just a few leaps away from the ATAT mentality of the loyalists. Anyhow to get back to my point. The interview with Tony Benn posted above took place at the time of the ceasefire and before the GFA which by the way I voted for,but probably would not do so now. So prior to this from its inception to 1972 NI was run as a one party sectarian state until superseded by undemocratic direct rule from Westminster. Benn recognised this and believed that the only way to solve the Irish question was for Britain to announce a withdrawal date. Looking at the mess we now have up at storming created by the sinners and the DUP maybe he was right.

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  4. Comment on Tony Benn and his lifelong argument for democracy… RIP
    on 14 March 2014 at 1:59 pm

    However, this famously principled man didn’t extend his commitment to democracy to Northern Ireland, a place where (uniquely) people were apparently not to be allowed a say in their own future (because they wouldn’t vote for what he wanted).

    MU that is because he recognised that NI was not a democracy but rather a one party gerrymandered sectarian state brought into being at the point of a gun.

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  5. Comment on Is integrated education even possible in Northern Ireland?
    on 4 February 2014 at 2:33 pm

    Once again we have another pointless thread on the myth that integrated education will solve the sectarian hatred endemic in NI,it will not. Are posters really saying that Wee Billy hates Seamus and vice-versa because they cant go to school together? I would ask Unionist and Nationalist posters this question and try to answer as honestly as possible, what do you believe is the major cause for sectarianism within your community and what perpetuates it?

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  6. Comment on Pat Magee and Jo Berry: Who are we Listening to?
    on 1 February 2014 at 3:56 pm

    DC (profile) 1 February 2014 at 3:26 pm
    There is no way a person is as experienced in life in general at 19 as a person would be say when 33, like Magee.

    DC this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever on any level. Quit trying to excuse murder.

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  7. Comment on Pat Magee and Jo Berry: Who are we Listening to?
    on 1 February 2014 at 3:21 pm

    I don’t mind that you don’t like Turgon’s views. That’s good. Tackle them head on. The problem is every time he raises his views on anything you retreat to whataboutery.

    Mick seriously?
    CM is absolutely right to point out Turgons rank hypocrisy. He is as far as i can gather a supporter or member of the TUV therefore DC pointing out Turgons refusal and ignoring of the TUV leaders actions in sharing platforms with unrepentant terrorist murderer Billy Hutchinson and the present leader of Woodvale UVF whilst condemning others is in no way whataboutery. It would seem that some posters on slugger are indeed a protected species.Your threat to black card DC stifles free speech.I think Turgon is big enough to fight his own battles.

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  8. Comment on Pat Magee and Jo Berry: Who are we Listening to?
    on 1 February 2014 at 3:09 pm

    Let me just correct you a bit, Billy Hutchinson didn’t attempt mass murder such as Magee he was an accomplice to a double murder as he drove the car, Hutchinson 19 at the time, Magee 33 when he did mass murder.

    DC let me correct you. Billy Hutchinson is not an accomplice to anything, he is like Magee a convicted murderer. Both are unrepentant terrorists although i suppose Magee in meeting one of his victims is maybe trying to deal with some issues he has. Hutchinsons age has nothing to do with the fact that he is a murderer, being 19 at the time absolves him of nothing he is just as guilty as Magee. Your bringing it up seems like some sort of defence or mitigation of Hutchinsons cowardly actions,maybe you should consider writing for the protestant coalition.

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  9. Comment on Has ‘flegs’ facilitated a crude retrenchment to factionalist politics?
    on 12 January 2014 at 5:02 pm

    DC (profile) 12 January 2014 at 1:54 pm
    Police Service to have the Union flag.
    Not going to happen.

    Courts Service branding to have the Crown.
    Not going to happen
    All councils to have union flag up designated days – minimum.
    Not going to happen
    Orange Parades to be regulated but not banned and residents to counter-protest – peaceful marching and peaceful protesting in concert.
    Not going to happen
    Dissident Republican-type parades banned.
    should happen but wont

    DC what you and the rest of the flegger fraternity need to understand is that the North has changed and will continue to change. You no longer are the” peepul” the demographics have changed and no amount of foot stamping, violence and marching up and down Twaddell by terrorist supporting bands and sectarian bigots will change anything.I am Irish but don’t need to have a tricolour hanging from every lamp post to re assure me of that Irishness.The Britishness that you describe is not Britishness that the vast majority of British people would either recognise or support , rather it is a supremacist sub culture based on sectarian hate that is perpetuated in the PUL community by the Loyal Orders and Loyalist terrorist aligned bands.It is as simple as that. With regard to Belfast council and the flag decision. This was a democratic decision taken which reflects the fact that Belfast is no longer a Unionist city. Indeed there is a strong likelihood that within the next two parliaments Belfast may not have any Unionist MPs unless the DUPes take back East Belfast.

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