‘ I was at the parade in Carrickfergus on Monday, had a most enjoyable day, didn’t hear of any problems there or on the way. The rain held off, met up with some friends i hadn’t seen for a while, and enjoy my walk along the sea front, past the historic castle, church, town hall etc.’
Strange how you missed all the anti-social behaviour, teenage drinking and mass fights close to the castle?
“The Republic now have a special rule to pick all NI underage players”
Red Lion
Could you explain why you say ‘now have a special rule’?
Irish players born in the north have always been eligible to represent the FAI. Unionists seem incapable of understanding that players born in the north were representing Ireland prior to the GFA and were always eligible under FIFA rules
“Dec, you are wrong, as regards NI goalie Lee Camp – he qualifies for NI because of the grandparent rule, so thats fine”
Red Lion
Prior to 2009 Lee Camp would actually have been ineligible for NI as he represented England at U21 level, but FIFA relaxed the rules and the IFA took advantage of the change.
Probably just as well as FIFA closed the loophole that allowed the IFA to acquire the services of Maik Taylor who has zero bloodline with NI.
The relaxing of the under 21 rule has also allowed the IFA to approach former ROI senior international Alex Bruce.
Funny how NI supporters are so vociferous in their calling for players to declare their intentions at a young age yet have recently acquired the services of a 27 year old English international and are chasing a 27 year old Republic international?
Also worth noting that NI’s German born goalkeeper Maik Taylor did not even qualify for Northern Ireland via the grandparent rule, he qualified via his british passport. This off course was a loophole (now closed) that was open only to the four british associations.
I don’t recall anyone within the IFA protesting at this anomaly at the time. And let’s remember his new successor to the goalkeeping crown Lee Camp played at every youth level for England and only became eligible for Northern Ireland when FIFA relaxed the eligibility rules a few years back.
So let’s be honest, the IFA are well versed in using the current/past rules to their own advantage.
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Comment on Parading & the Lessons for Conciliatory Strategies
on 12 April 2012 at 12:22 pm
drumlin
BBC now reporting the Carrick trouble
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-17686614
As i say, strange you missed it?
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Comment on Parading & the Lessons for Conciliatory Strategies
on 12 April 2012 at 9:13 am
‘ I was at the parade in Carrickfergus on Monday, had a most enjoyable day, didn’t hear of any problems there or on the way. The rain held off, met up with some friends i hadn’t seen for a while, and enjoy my walk along the sea front, past the historic castle, church, town hall etc.’
Strange how you missed all the anti-social behaviour, teenage drinking and mass fights close to the castle?
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Comment on The first Armagh St Patrick’s Day’s Ulster band parade…
on 14 March 2012 at 4:21 pm
Anyone have a list of bands taking part in the loyalist parade on Saturday?
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Comment on GAA promises to attend all coming ‘milestones’ (even Unionist ones)…
on 25 February 2012 at 10:49 pm
‘so, no takers for my GAA international match then?’
It’s a Nation thing iluvni! Just like rugby, cricket, hockey, cycling, golf etc……….
Try netball for your international game
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Comment on Football eligibility row illustrates unionism’s inability to respect ‘The Other’ tradition
on 16 February 2012 at 12:56 am
Can the rugby discussion be kept to a rugby thread. It’s irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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Comment on Football eligibility row illustrates unionism’s inability to respect ‘The Other’ tradition
on 11 February 2012 at 3:49 pm
“The last thing NI needs is players with dubious commitment. Let them go. Then their place can be taken by someone who wants to play.”
Congal Clean
Are you saying that players for whom their first international choice did not occur are less committed?
Is Lee Camp is less committed to the IFA because he represented England at every underage level?.
Is Niall McGinn less committed to helping the IFA team win games even-though he grew up supporting the Republic Of Ireland?
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Comment on Football eligibility row illustrates unionism’s inability to respect ‘The Other’ tradition
on 11 February 2012 at 3:43 pm
“The Republic now have a special rule to pick all NI underage players”
Red Lion
Could you explain why you say ‘now have a special rule’?
Irish players born in the north have always been eligible to represent the FAI. Unionists seem incapable of understanding that players born in the north were representing Ireland prior to the GFA and were always eligible under FIFA rules
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Comment on Football eligibility row illustrates unionism’s inability to respect ‘The Other’ tradition
on 11 February 2012 at 1:55 am
“He was born on a British Army base, so any of the UK nations could have taken him.”
BlueJazz
And thus the four british associations exploited a loophole that was not open to any of the other 204 FIFA member associations.
Funny how the IFA are now screaming injustice when they were happy to take advantage in the past.
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Comment on Football eligibility row illustrates unionism’s inability to respect ‘The Other’ tradition
on 10 February 2012 at 11:09 pm
“Dec, you are wrong, as regards NI goalie Lee Camp – he qualifies for NI because of the grandparent rule, so thats fine”
Red Lion
Prior to 2009 Lee Camp would actually have been ineligible for NI as he represented England at U21 level, but FIFA relaxed the rules and the IFA took advantage of the change.
Probably just as well as FIFA closed the loophole that allowed the IFA to acquire the services of Maik Taylor who has zero bloodline with NI.
The relaxing of the under 21 rule has also allowed the IFA to approach former ROI senior international Alex Bruce.
Funny how NI supporters are so vociferous in their calling for players to declare their intentions at a young age yet have recently acquired the services of a 27 year old English international and are chasing a 27 year old Republic international?
Funny that!!
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Comment on Football eligibility row illustrates unionism’s inability to respect ‘The Other’ tradition
on 9 February 2012 at 11:24 pm
Also worth noting that NI’s German born goalkeeper Maik Taylor did not even qualify for Northern Ireland via the grandparent rule, he qualified via his british passport. This off course was a loophole (now closed) that was open only to the four british associations.
I don’t recall anyone within the IFA protesting at this anomaly at the time. And let’s remember his new successor to the goalkeeping crown Lee Camp played at every youth level for England and only became eligible for Northern Ireland when FIFA relaxed the eligibility rules a few years back.
So let’s be honest, the IFA are well versed in using the current/past rules to their own advantage.
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