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  1. Comment on Mature attitude to dealing with the past is to tell the truth and pay the price?
    on 26 March 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Being granted immunity from prosecution on the grounds of self incrimination is not the same thing as a blanket immunity.
    As for how the police could go about hunting down leads, I dunno, maybe do some like police work or something? You know, the sort of thing that police do all the time when it comes to investigating murders that haven’t been carried out by policemen or soldiers, cautioning people that they are suspects rather than interviewing them like witnesses.
    Its a mad idea I know, but all those eye witnesses and having actual records of who was on the ground on the day and we’re all to believe that the police can’t knock on someone’s door because they don’t know where to start?

    Again, the CORE problem for relatives, is not that SF has negotiated secret deals for it’s own guys in the past decade, it’s that from the 70′s onwards there has been an unwillingness of the state to prosecute it’s own forces for murder, whether it be murder committed in the full gaze of international media or at some checkpoint when some psycho decides to shoot a little girl in the back.

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  2. Comment on Mature attitude to dealing with the past is to tell the truth and pay the price?
    on 26 March 2014 at 4:25 pm

    “Rare? Ha! Not in Northern Ireland. It’s the norm, isn’t it?”

    No it’s not the norm. It’s not the way the vast majority of cases are/were investigated, and since when were the soldiers officially given immunity?
    Taking the standards that have always been applied to soldiers and policemen and trying to argue that it’s the norm for all sides, and that furthermore it’s all down to SF is one of the most disingenuous things I’ve read in an OP on this site.

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  3. Comment on Mature attitude to dealing with the past is to tell the truth and pay the price?
    on 26 March 2014 at 4:02 pm

    “That said, the squaddies from Bloody Sunday will face prosecution if it can gather sufficient evidence. People are not exactly breaking down the doors [the dFM included].”

    It’s a rare sort of murder enquiry that sits around on it’s hands waiting for suspects to come speak to it. Is that also SF’s fault? Or can we entertain the notion that the armoured Hummer stopped in the middle of the road discovered a very settled looking Sixer that had been there for a few decades at least.

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  4. Comment on Mature attitude to dealing with the past is to tell the truth and pay the price?
    on 26 March 2014 at 2:45 pm

    “And as long as SF aren’t confessing, there is no pressure on the British to throw old officers and men to the courts.”

    Ah, I see.
    So as well as denying justice to the IRA victims, SF are also denying it to the victims of the state. But not the other way round of course, because, you know, western democracies always take their cue from paramilitaries.
    Sammy Devaney’s family should be told of this, they’re probably suffering under the mistaken belief
    that their father’s killers are still alive and being protected by another police force.

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  5. Comment on Mature attitude to dealing with the past is to tell the truth and pay the price?
    on 26 March 2014 at 10:38 am

    Lets cut to the chase.
    Unionism (and indeed the British Gov) is quite happy with how things are done currently, sure they occasionally kick and scream about it, and say ‘what about the victims!’ (i.e. those killed by the IRA, as demonstrated by Jim’s recent victims show at Stormont)
    But a genuine truth recovery process that would involve a ‘Western Democratic’ state admitting that it murdered it’s own citizens?
    Not a chance, best to keep things the way they are.

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  6. Comment on Boston College tapes unlikely to lead Adams to gaol but suggest any truth process is pointless
    on 25 March 2014 at 11:31 pm

    Things that the dogs in the street know tend to vary depending on which side of the divide the interviewer hails from.
    We should really get a street dog in to do a guest blog rather than having people speak for them like this particular entry does.

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  7. Comment on UPDATE- Jamie Bryson-A rebel without a hope?
    on 25 March 2014 at 11:06 am

    “RE: KoKo the Flegger, the phrase ‘a fool and his money’, springs to mind.”

    JFC, it’s for charity. Probably best not to mention which one, wouldn’t want the usual suspects threatening charity workers again.

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  8. Comment on “neither should loyalists use the flag issue as an excuse to stir up sectarian strife”
    on 24 March 2014 at 4:23 pm

    So on the days the union flag doesn’t fly, another flag which Nationalists don’t identify with should fly?
    I can see why the article nested the word compromise in rabbit ears.
    I wonder what his Dad thinks about his views on stirring up sectarian strife over a flag? ;)

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  9. Comment on McCann meets….Naomi Long MP #AP2014
    on 24 March 2014 at 12:01 am

    “Everything has an equal and opposite reaction if you vote SF you get DUP and vice versa (except if East Belfast vote Alliance you still get SF)”

    So Naomi’s shock victory in East Belfast was some sort of attempt to break away from the SF/DUP show that nationalists didn’t simultaneously and with weird powers of foresight reciprocate on?
    Nothing at all to do with Iris and the TUV vote?

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  10. Comment on Anna Lo- A United Ireland would be better placed economically, socially and politically
    on 20 March 2014 at 10:49 pm

    “Sp12 – Does Arlene wear union jack boxers?”

    It’s not really something I want to think about to be honest.

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