But there tend to be residents groups (in this context) in place only where there are or have been parades which they regard as contentious, aren’t those the groups that O’Dowd was referring to ?
Dodgy indeed; subjective, certainly. Given the size of this state the chances of being connected with someone who the state could regard as dodgy within, say 3 degrees of separation, I would have thought was very high. The nature of the connection however is another story. How might they, for example, make a call on the nature/depth of one brother-on-brother relationship versus another etc correlated to the (i) likelihood of security breaches in the event of an appointment; and (ii) the seriousness were such a breach to occur, given the probable consequences. Like most risk management models, inexact science at work.
I don’t see how he could be since it has not yet been released and probably won’t be.
These background checks can be very thorough however reasonable suspicion comes into it and the standards of evidence aren’t high unless they’ve changed since I had experience of them, e.g. once had an innocent pint several years ago with a guy you didn’t even know may have been on the fringes of the provos etc.
On another note, does David Ford routinely have access to the vetting checks or will he be kept out of the loop also going forward, as I suspect ?
Think there’s a morality question here too Mervyn. I would have my own view on the estrangement of catholicism from morality however if some catholics are so wishy washy on the question of Brady’s culpability it does not, to say the very least of it, speak very highly of their seriousness about child protection, nor consequencing those in its midst who made a contribution – through ‘sins’ of commission or omission – to this problem within that organisation over a great many years and the apparent subservience of criminal law to canon law and in some cases the effective repudiation of any amenability to normal legal standards.
In that respect I think the reaction in some quarters to Brady’s refusal to resign has been very well worth the hearing. Scary, but worth the hearing.
Think it’s a combination of right-wing nationalist bone-headed bigotry and plain eye-spinning hayseed stupidity.
Credulous, needy people unattracted by reason and decent standards of morality are entitled to believe what they like, inclusing catholicism. They should however disabuse themselves of the notion that this entitles them to any formal role in determining how the rest of us should or can live. That’s an unalterable principle and that applies to the catholic church every bit as much as it does to those idiots and end-of-days death cultists minded to facilitate sharia and apply it to our own citizens and bring us back to the stone age – that’s just unacceptable.
Your greetings to Ho Chi Minh and Pol Pot I am sure are consistent with the Vatican’s celebration of Hitler’s birthday; they marked it every year right to the very end, his last birthday falling just ten days before his death.
Whichever configuration of this piece of land you like, with how ever many states on it you care for, one thing is certain. Ireland – north, couth, east or west, would be a better conutry to live in without christianity in it.
Current economics notwithstanding though woud they not potenitally be pushing against an open door in terms of public opinion were they to separate church and state in all childcare matters at this stage ?
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Comment on Tom Elliott kicks off campaign with UUP ideas on how to reform Stormont by 2015
on 9 March 2011 at 11:34 am
“Go ask the DUP when they warned Gordon Brown he was bankrupting the United Kingdom”.
The UUP did this themselves….when and how loudly ?
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Comment on Hearts and Minds: Cameron, Parades and Human Rights…
on 21 May 2010 at 8:32 am
But there tend to be residents groups (in this context) in place only where there are or have been parades which they regard as contentious, aren’t those the groups that O’Dowd was referring to ?
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Comment on Civil servant failed 2004 security vetting due to intelligence report on brother
on 20 May 2010 at 4:13 pm
Dodgy indeed; subjective, certainly. Given the size of this state the chances of being connected with someone who the state could regard as dodgy within, say 3 degrees of separation, I would have thought was very high. The nature of the connection however is another story. How might they, for example, make a call on the nature/depth of one brother-on-brother relationship versus another etc correlated to the (i) likelihood of security breaches in the event of an appointment; and (ii) the seriousness were such a breach to occur, given the probable consequences. Like most risk management models, inexact science at work.
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Comment on Civil servant failed 2004 security vetting due to intelligence report on brother
on 20 May 2010 at 12:27 am
I don’t see how he could be since it has not yet been released and probably won’t be.
These background checks can be very thorough however reasonable suspicion comes into it and the standards of evidence aren’t high unless they’ve changed since I had experience of them, e.g. once had an innocent pint several years ago with a guy you didn’t even know may have been on the fringes of the provos etc.
On another note, does David Ford routinely have access to the vetting checks or will he be kept out of the loop also going forward, as I suspect ?
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Comment on Is Cardinal Brady coming or going?
on 19 May 2010 at 11:20 pm
Think there’s a morality question here too Mervyn. I would have my own view on the estrangement of catholicism from morality however if some catholics are so wishy washy on the question of Brady’s culpability it does not, to say the very least of it, speak very highly of their seriousness about child protection, nor consequencing those in its midst who made a contribution – through ‘sins’ of commission or omission – to this problem within that organisation over a great many years and the apparent subservience of criminal law to canon law and in some cases the effective repudiation of any amenability to normal legal standards.
In that respect I think the reaction in some quarters to Brady’s refusal to resign has been very well worth the hearing. Scary, but worth the hearing.
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Comment on Is Cardinal Brady coming or going?
on 19 May 2010 at 10:01 pm
Pippakin
Think it’s a combination of right-wing nationalist bone-headed bigotry and plain eye-spinning hayseed stupidity.
Credulous, needy people unattracted by reason and decent standards of morality are entitled to believe what they like, inclusing catholicism. They should however disabuse themselves of the notion that this entitles them to any formal role in determining how the rest of us should or can live. That’s an unalterable principle and that applies to the catholic church every bit as much as it does to those idiots and end-of-days death cultists minded to facilitate sharia and apply it to our own citizens and bring us back to the stone age – that’s just unacceptable.
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Comment on Is Cardinal Brady coming or going?
on 19 May 2010 at 9:50 pm
Your greetings to Ho Chi Minh and Pol Pot I am sure are consistent with the Vatican’s celebration of Hitler’s birthday; they marked it every year right to the very end, his last birthday falling just ten days before his death.
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Comment on Is Cardinal Brady coming or going?
on 19 May 2010 at 8:59 pm
Whichever configuration of this piece of land you like, with how ever many states on it you care for, one thing is certain. Ireland – north, couth, east or west, would be a better conutry to live in without christianity in it.
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Comment on Is Cardinal Brady coming or going?
on 19 May 2010 at 6:31 pm
Greenflag
True but many would prefer Coronation Street to going to mass which has to be progress.
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Comment on Is Cardinal Brady coming or going?
on 19 May 2010 at 6:29 pm
Alias
Current economics notwithstanding though woud they not potenitally be pushing against an open door in terms of public opinion were they to separate church and state in all childcare matters at this stage ?
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