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  1. Comment on Before Haass reveals his recommendations, the practical issues of dealing with the past
    on 19 December 2013 at 10:05 pm

    BarneyT, I actually find Bangladesh a more interesting comparison to NI. Several decades after independence they are finally getting around to putting pro-Pakistani soldiers and politicians on trial. Nationalists already believe there is an unspoken amnesty for soldiers and police in NI. If a united Ireland appears on the horizon in our lifetime I imagine HMG will be very keen to deal with this officially before it becomes the responsibility of the Irish Govt.

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  2. Comment on Kevin Conway murder: “Local Sinn Fein Councillor John O’Dowd was under no illusions…”
    on 19 December 2013 at 9:52 pm

    “Always good to see the flaunting of sub-judice.”

    Seamus, Slugger is a good barometer of how flimsy a case is against any republican who finds himself arrested.

    The weaker it is the quicker Slugger gets a post out. This one would seem to be very weak, surprised Slugger didn’t react quicker.

    Colin Duffy was injured in the attack when Sam Marshall was murdered, apparently the army was also in the area but scarpered beforehand.

    Gary Marshall, like Duffy is a favourite target for arrest by the RUC/PSNI.

    Both have been represented by Rosemary Nelson.

    At Nelsons inquest an intelligence document was produced suggesting that Nelson knew that Duffy had murdered Conway and helped to construct an alibi.

    I’m guessing the local trevors have used up their annual quota of arrests for Colin Duffy so lifted Marshall instead.

    As for the soil samples….now where have I heard that one before……………..

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  3. Comment on BBC Spotlight on how the peace process continues to cover for the ‘bad’ UVF
    on 1 November 2013 at 3:33 pm

    “education is the duty of the state”

    Well Charles there is every possibility that Sinn Fein will be in Government in IReland sometime over the next decade or two and also be the largest party in Stormont during the same time.

    Can you just confirm that you are happy for them to name every school after an IRA volunteer, only have Gaelic games and teach through the medium of Irish, possibly start the day with a chorus of the “Broad Black Brimmer”

    With everyone North and South been educated in that manner there would be no division then.

    Personally, I’m a fan of faith schools, church schools, free schools etc all with an amount of freedom in teaching as long as they reach the end result of churning out well educated, well adjusted young adults.

    If you think my little fantasy vignette for a Sinn Fein ‘State’ education is far-fetched what do you think people like Nesbit and Robinson have in mind for nationalist kids when they talk about integrated education, me, I’m fairly sure it doesn’t involve calling historical Irish people anything but terrorists and criminals for opposing mother England, doesn’t include the Irish language or gaelic games.

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  4. Comment on BBC Spotlight on how the peace process continues to cover for the ‘bad’ UVF
    on 1 November 2013 at 1:05 pm

    “The Catholic state needs to be whittled now so it is gone (education north and south).”

    Indeed Charles, now read the comment posted above your one and tell us exactly what needs to be whittled away, sounds like you Cynic and Nesbitt actually mean that’s high time nationalists (Catholics) began learning the unionist version of history, stop playing Gaelic games and stop learning their leprechaun language.

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  5. Comment on Seamus Mallon: “If we are going have integrity in Irish republicanism it has to be an organic thing…”
    on 16 October 2013 at 11:40 am

    I think Seamus is at least consistant, for the SDLP it’s all about agreeing for the sake of agreeing and getting on each other but not actually getting what your voters wanted.

    For me, the SDLP lost the nationalist vote when they jumped way too early on policing, their decision then fits with what Mallon is saying today,

    It may be insulting to call them the ‘Stoops’ and say they are happy with a box of chocolates, but there is more than a hint of truth in the cat-calling.

    Who took Ian Og seriously a few years ago when he claimed the DUP feared the SDLP more than SF.

    I think there is a percentage of the SF support who don’t necessarily agree with SF actions or policy but see a party that …er…sticks to its guns, so to speak and is therefore a safer pair of hands for nationalist aspirations. afterall why would nationalists vote for a party who appears more concerned about the happiness of unionists and not them

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  6. Comment on Partitionism is alive and well in All Ireland
    on 19 September 2013 at 10:43 am

    BTW a certain phone company (comes after 2 and before 4) will cure your ills on making calls anywhere on the island.

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  7. Comment on Partitionism is alive and well in All Ireland
    on 19 September 2013 at 10:40 am

    It seems a bit weird to demand that people who oppose partition should fix the problems being caused by partition, is that not the role of those who support partition.

    Furthermore, this problem will get much worse should the Conservative Party (largely based in England) succeed in winning a vote to leave the EU (which will be determined by English voters)

    But as all the polls in NI show (apparently) people don’t want a UI and more recently (again apparently) they want direct rule and not local rule.

    Another recent poll on Scottish independence gives 47% (I think) in favour IF Scots were £300 per year better off.

    Pro-Partitionists (Slugger is one) refuse to have any conversation, and instead point to unqualified polls or (as Slugger does) demand fully costed complete pictures of what a UI would be like.

    THis post proves that it is high time that a proper conversation on the possible pros and cons of a UI V UK

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  8. Comment on Zero Sum and Differential Gain in Northern Ireland
    on 18 September 2013 at 10:53 am

    “if you’re going to lie, make it a big fucking lie” That was Britain’s wartime ally Stalin responsible for about 20,000,000 deaths, including 3,000,000 Cusacks and White Russians rounded up by the British after WW2 and handed over as a thank-you (obviously not the many who decided to commit suicide instead) they themselves had been Britain’s ally before the war, but heyhoo things change,

    So, it’s not Godwins Law, and the IRA aren’t the only baddies.

    How about (given the topic) we build a 2nd peace centre near the site of Girdwood barracks, the Mess\Bar there was where the UVF and UDR mingled (with an estimated 25% joint membership). Perhaps two statues a UDR and a UVF volunteer holding an Ulster Resistance Beret between them, it could be stylized to resemble a poppy wreath, I think that would cover everything for unionism and the DUP

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  9. Comment on SDLP yet to choose its candidate, but the clock is ticking…
    on 18 September 2013 at 8:30 am

    Dana – Catholic, from Derry, has done the job,

    Ann Travers – Catholic, victim, high profile, would get unionist votes to annoy SF

    Or …the party leader himself

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  10. Comment on Voting intentions survey – 44.1% wouldn’t vote (3:2 women:men) + the party split of those who would vote
    on 17 September 2013 at 9:13 pm

    ayeYerMa, the question NILT use is:

    “If there were a general election tomorrow, which political party do you think you would be most likely to support?”

    So just explain it to me one more time cos I don’t understand why they mention a “General Election” at the start of the question if it’s not about voting intentions,

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  11. Comment on Voting intentions survey – 44.1% wouldn’t vote (3:2 women:men) + the party split of those who would vote
    on 17 September 2013 at 9:01 pm

    Can I also point out that the Bel Tel gives the overall vote share from the 2011 Assembly elections for comparison whereas for comparison to peoples voting intentions today they should have used the first preference vote percentages ie

    LT 2011
    DUP 29.3 (29.3)
    SF 26.1 (26.3)
    UUP 10.8 (12.9)
    SDLP 13.8 (13.9)
    All 10.2 (7.7)
    TUV 1.2 (2.4)
    Green 0.9 (0.9)

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  12. Comment on Voting intentions survey – 44.1% wouldn’t vote (3:2 women:men) + the party split of those who would vote
    on 17 September 2013 at 8:12 pm

    No mjh I said it was valueless, all I can say is look at polls in Ireland there are 3-4 polling companies all working to recognised standards yet Red C is the only one that can be relied on to get it right.

    Northern Ireland is an even tougher environment to do polls in due to local divisions, a read through past NILT surveys proves that (apparently the majority of nationalists vote SDLP)

    There’s a lot more to doing polls or indeed anything than merely following standards. For example I have several of Delia’s cookbooks, I can follow recipes to the letter so is my cooking on a par with Delia’s….sadly not

    Sorry but Bill’s polling just doesn’t do it for me

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  13. Comment on #givepootstheboot: Minister spends £100k opposing #LGBT blood donation and adoption
    on 17 September 2013 at 5:29 pm

    Still a lot less cash than that spent by the SoS and PSNI in opposing the release of documents by the Public Records Office recently before they agreed that they were …er…Public Records.

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  14. Comment on Stormont facing a crisis of confidence.
    on 17 September 2013 at 3:54 pm

    “..for a population of 1.8m a sample of group of just over 1000 should be sufficient ….”

    Yes and no, proper polls are carried out over 2-3 days, this one was over 2-3 WEEKS, as they say a week is a long time in politics, the period allows for too much to happen between the start and end dates that would influence answers.

    Also there seems to be a huge number of ‘don’t knows’ or ‘no opinions’ so the sample size is greatly reduced.

    And also, it’s a bizarre question to poll

    “When asked the question, compared to direct rule from Westminster, how would you rate the performance of the NI assembly?”

    What does it mean? is it things like badger culls? (Westminster Yes, Assembly No) is it a preference for P&J to be returned to Westminster? Is it disliking nationalists in positions of power? IS it wanting joint authority? what is it?

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  15. Comment on Stormont facing a crisis of confidence.
    on 17 September 2013 at 2:51 pm

    “be careful of making unsubstantiated allegations”

    Whats unsubstantiated Alan, I stand by everything I wrote and I will happily back it up, suggest you pop onto LinkedIn, google and Bills blog/website and then get back to me with something specific rather than a vague threat which could be construed as playing the man on your part.

    Now then apart from distracting from the OP did you actually have something to say?

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  16. Comment on Voting intentions survey – 44.1% wouldn’t vote (3:2 women:men) + the party split of those who would vote
    on 17 September 2013 at 2:45 pm

    mjh, I basically pointed out yesterday that it’s a valueless poll, and having now found out the time period and the sample size it appears even more meaningless than I thought.

    For example (if my maths are correct) UKIP’s 0.9% is derived from 11 people out of 1222 saying they would vote for them. The Greens 0.7% is 8 people

    It’s an amateurish poll proven by attempting to break the figures down into small subsets where if just 2 or 3 people gave a different answer the percentages would would move noticeably.

    But I s’pose it’s bread n circuses on a slow news day

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  17. Comment on Stormont facing a crisis of confidence.
    on 16 September 2013 at 2:12 pm

    David, as LucidTalk is a one-man-band and it’s website is basically Bill Whites blogpage, not to mention the fact that Bill’s Bio is somewhat stretching the bounds of reality may I ask how many people where actually surveyed and where is the detail apart from the obvious of how many, when, don’t knows etc,

    Also do I recall him been an ex-member of the UUP, constituency chairman perhaps

    At this point I think the headline should be
    Ex-UUP bloke asks his mates how much do you dislike SF and DUP in power, mates say “We don’t Bill”

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  18. Comment on See that #fleg in Enniskillen? Well, now you don’t…
    on 7 June 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Interesting to see if the fleg protests are genuine or just to annoy nationalists, if genuine loyalists should be out in force wrapped in their cheap Chinese manufactured flags over this, should raise a few eyebrows at the G8.

    Mick, in other words what MMcG is saying is that the DUP were elected by unionists on the promise of “a battle a day” SF has disappointed by refusing to play. So while you and others are throwing gibes that they should be doing more for ex-prisoners, Irish language etc. it ain’t going to happen at the moment as it would give you and others what they want a circus of ‘a battle a day’ in the future all this can be dealt with but only when people who want to see both sides baiting each other are in the nursing home and people who want to see all these issues resolved (genuinely) are at the fore.

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  19. Comment on NI21 launches – looking for fresh voices rather than defectors
    on 7 June 2013 at 11:38 am

    Bit nervous meself, the website is done by Tibus, which is owned by UTV media, I think UTV might be an anagram for who is really behind the be-Jasil, any ideas?

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  20. Comment on Lord Laird has form in ‘understanding’ the line between lobbying and representation…
    on 3 June 2013 at 8:30 am

    Comrade, if you want obscene………..

    Besters LinkedIn profile also says…. I do everything from personal task to looking after his business ventures one of which is in early start up stage and is extremely demanding……..fairly innocent so far.

    Her entry on the Lords register of interests states she is also …….”PA, Time Is On Your Side Ltd (telecommunications)”…….a company that Lord Laird is a director of……..still fairly innocent

    BUT…….who else is a director? someone called Christopher Knight, who is he, well he is a registered Sex Offender from the USA who recently tried to buy the Belfast Giants ice hockey team.

    THe BBC headline is “Lord Laird defends dealings with registered sex offender in Florida”

    “In May 2011, the peer made a declaration on the House of Lords register of interests. This was as a paid advisor to Knight Communications, a company co-founded by Mr Knight.

    It was an association which was to last right up until the Belfast Giants deal was killed and Mr Knight’s background was about to become public.

    Lord Laird told us: “A way back at the very start, well, not the very start but near the start, I gave advice to him and for that he gave me a small monetary reward.”

    For four months, Lord Laird was also a director of another company with which Mr Knight had links called Time is On Your Side Limited.

    But he resigned that position just a matter of days after the Odyssey told him it could not be associated with Mr Knight.

    At the same time, he removed his advisory role with Knight Communications from the Lords register.”

    I think Bester has dropped Lord Laird in it as it would appear that his involvement with Knight is more than advisory and he was actually a business partner in the deal.

    Incidentally Knights crime was “The register’s “crime description” is of two charges of “lewd/lascivious battery, sex with victim 12-15 years old”, dating from 2003. ”

    Whats amusing about it is his sentence was …….Adjudication was withheld and he was given five years’ sexual offender probation and was placed on the state’s sex offender register.

    Now then why does “five years” have a familiar ring to it in regards to serious crimes……mmmmmh

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