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  1. Comment on Football violence provides occasion for racist attacks in city
    on 7 April 2009 at 8:36 pm

    “My apologies the goalie in question was Alan Rough but it was a long time ago and he was such a bad keeper i would imagine the fans were too busy laughing to be bothered booing.Don’t know if its relevant but he also had a real dodgy barnet.You know the one where you ask for a Rod Stewart but end up with a Rod Hull.”

    No problem skullion.

    I remember Mr Rough well – and his dubious haircut. lol.

    Artur’s, rather strange, neck tattoo is also in the dubious category.

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  2. Comment on Football violence provides occasion for racist attacks in city
    on 7 April 2009 at 6:11 pm

    skullion seems to forget the “issues” some Republic Of Ireland supporters have had with Rangers players playing against them in recent times – including one they thought played for Rangers, but didn’t! :-)

    I wonder does he recall the website set up by Republic Of Ireland fans, “Okay2boo”, justifying this sort of behaviour?

    Presumably skullion would be rerasonable enough to conclude that if it’s “Okay2boo” Rangers players, then it’s OK to boo Celtic players?

    Or – perhaps that’s another one of those (many) things were it only cuts one way?

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  3. Comment on Football violence provides occasion for racist attacks in city
    on 7 April 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Skullion,

    When did Goram play against Northern Ireland?

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  4. Comment on Football violence provides occasion for racist attacks in city
    on 7 April 2009 at 5:26 pm

    “Be more that surprised if Paul Jones didn’t get any vs Wales”

    He got plenty.

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  5. Comment on Football violence provides occasion for racist attacks in city
    on 7 April 2009 at 5:24 pm

    “For me the holier-than-thou, sneering, anti-unionist, anti-NI views of many of the ROI supporters I have known, who make little secret of the fact that they would have my team dissolved without a second thought tends to skew my well-wishing to Trap’s boys funnily enough!”

    Nail hit on the head Democratic.

    I get torn on the issue though – I know many Republic Of Ireland fans whom I would classify as good friends, and feel good for them when their favourites do well.

    In fairness, they acknowledge the hatred that exists amongst a section of the Republic Of Ireland’s fanbase for all things “Northern Ireland”, and are quite embarrassed by it.

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  6. Comment on Football violence provides occasion for racist attacks in city
    on 7 April 2009 at 4:20 pm

    “You are anything but one”

    Sorry skullion – your caustic wit is lost on me.

    What do you mean?

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  7. Comment on Football violence provides occasion for racist attacks in city
    on 7 April 2009 at 4:18 pm

    kensei,

    “Do you believe it is in NI’s best interest, given the politcal makeup here?”

    Do you believe it is in the best interests of “United” (sic) Irelanders to demonise Northern Ireland fans at every little opportunity?

    Do you think that furthers your dream of a “United” (sic) Ireland team?

    “They don’t seem to get the same ire as we get though.”

    Aww – how sad. Pot, kettle, black.

    “Rivals? Nah. They are unfortunately too good; “rivals” suggests some sort of equality. I just like seeing them get beat”

    You do your favourites a great disservice. Their record against the “saxon foe” is quite impressive. Even little Northern Ireland beat them, last time we played. Ever heard about David & Goliath.

    Personally,I just love Northern Ireland being the underdog.

    I’d quite fancy the Republic Of Ireland to get one over England at present.

    “I don’t think it is very sporting in this instance, Realist”

    What do you think it is kensei – interesting comment from a man who confesses that his interest in these matters in primarily political, rather than sporting.

    “I remain nervous that FIFA as and until FIFA passes a resolution that shuts the IFA up”

    Your ignorance is quite startling. I’d have thought you’d have wanted the FIFA Statutes to remain exactly as they are?

    “We are talking about the international game”

    England fans were involved in trouble with riot police in Seville, less than 2 months ago.

    “do I have to answerfor all their actions?”

    Apparantly thousands of decent Northern Ireland fans have to answer for the actions of a few.

    Same rules not apply?

    “Perhaps you don’t feel your political allegiances quite so keenly”

    I’d imagine I’m every bit as patriotic as you are.

    Bizarrely, for all your adversions to the people you wish to be “united” (sic) with, it’s you who claims to be a “United” Irelander.

    “I would not feel happy doing it, which should be enough for you”

    Oh, don’t worry – I get the picture.

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  8. Comment on Football violence provides occasion for racist attacks in city
    on 7 April 2009 at 3:49 pm

    skullion.

    Artur was treated no differently to any other visiting goalkeeeper.

    He is now a Northern Irish legend.

    He’s “Ulster’s Number 1″

    “Frank” (our resident YouTube and Fans Forum specialist) will provide the YouTube footage to prove it.

    If your insinuation is that he got special treatment because he is a Celtic player – there was a Celtic player in the victorious Northern Ireland squad.

    If your insinuation is that Artur got special treatment on account of his religious beliefs – several players sharing the same religious beliefs as Artur were in the Northern Ireland squad…including the Captain who led us to an excellent victory.

    You have to admit though – Artur is a bit of a rocket. :-)

    I lap him up.

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  9. Comment on Football violence provides occasion for racist attacks in city
    on 7 April 2009 at 2:21 pm

    kensei,

    “Simply stating “thems the facts” doesn’t make it right”

    Down with football (and sporting) rivalries. Do you disagee with my assertion about some mutual disliking amongst Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland fans?

    Do you think this sporting rivalry thing is unique to this part of the world? :-)

    Did all those Leeds men sing things like “I do love the Villa”?

    “I wasn’t aware we were “rivals”. NI seems largely unconcerned with Scotland ro Wales.”

    Run that by me again – you’re unaware that two teams on the same island might be rivals?

    Wales, Scotland and England are most certainly rivals of Northern Ireland.

    I believe many Republic Of Ireland fans would consider England to be one of their main rivals also.

    You do understand the concept of sporting rivalry, don’t you??

    “No, the IFA are still “looking for clarification”. Despite being told repeatedly”

    They can “look for clarification” all they want -you, and I, know the answer will be the same. We’ve debated this aspect before, and are basically in agreement on it.

    “Have to be fair. There was a time after every game and at every tournament there was reports of trouble. That has largely stopped.”

    You need to do a bit more research.

    By the way, there is football related violence in England every weekend….and in numerous other countries throughout Europe. There’s even a bit of a “football factory” wanabee thing going on in the Republic Of Ireland these days. Honest.

    “Everyone else though…”

    What do you mean by “everyone else”?

    “Just as well they are still not doing it, then. And given I have no connections to any organisation, it still doesn’t concern me.”

    But you support their ultimate objective?

    “I don’t. I’d find it tough to stand for GTSQ and cheer on NI, regardless of how nice the people are and that would be impolite.

    Can’t say I found it “tough” standing for the National Anthem of the Irish Republic when I last attended one of their games – I just did it.

    Nobody was asking you to cheer Northern Ireland -just to attend a game, and report your findings to Slugger.

    “I also don’t drink, and don’t like being around a shedload of people I do not know on my own. I don’t have “perceptions” to shatter. I doubt much happens inside the ground.”

    But yet – you go to bars, with a “shedload of people” you don’t know in them to watch football?

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  10. Comment on Football violence provides occasion for racist attacks in city
    on 7 April 2009 at 1:07 pm

    I see you been snooping around that NI Fans site again Frank – you seem to do a lot of that, in your quest for “information”.

    Funny that you use threads where disapproving Northern Ireland fans express their opinion to, er, demonise Northern Ireland fans.

    Such is your desperation.

    If you want to play “website revealations”, I’m your man.

    Not much point though, as all it prove is that sectarian bigots exist within the fanbases of several teams – and it is not exclusive to one side of the community.

    I believe that people who go blind in one eye when looking at these issues, are bigots.

    Rather than give yourself an ulcer in your quest to justify your own base bigotry, would you not be better just relaxing, and educating yourself -with a John O’Kane book?

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