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A man, a son, a father and a doting granddad. Disciple of Christ, the Son of the Living God, Retired police officer and working in environmental services,

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  1. Comment on Gay Marriage: Cardinal lobbies against whilst Church of Ireland opens a debate…
    on 8 March 2012 at 1:01 am

    Definition of marriage : Art 12, European convention on Human Rights

    Article 12 of the European Convention on Human Rights provides for the right to marry.
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    “ Men and women of marrigeable age have the right to marry and to found a family, according to the national laws governing the exercise of this rights ”

    many commentators see this as defining that marriage is the union of a man and a woman, but that is not what it says, it says that men of marriageable age have the right to marry, women of marriageable age have the right to marry, but it stays well clear of stipulating that they are marrying each other

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  2. Comment on Gay Marriage: Cardinal lobbies against whilst Church of Ireland opens a debate…
    on 7 March 2012 at 12:32 pm

    Is it a Sin?

    Is it a Sin to love another, who happens to me of the same gender?

    Is it a sin to Marry the one you love who happens to be of the same gender?

    If so show me where!

    lets face it marriage is on the decline, the greatest threat to marriage these days being divorce and fornication( having sex outside marriage)

    Are the churches afraid that if homosexuals are given their freedom to marry that they will make a better job of it than heterosexuals have been doing)

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  3. Comment on Gay Marriage: Cardinal lobbies against whilst Church of Ireland opens a debate…
    on 7 March 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Great to see a diversity of thought/opinion on Mr O’Brien’s uttering on gay marriage. We have in western society a very serious case of religion gone Bad. We already have had an input from the Church of England. If either the Roman church or the Church of England were shining examples of Christ-like living then maybe we ought to be concerned about their mutterings, but not until then.

    Remember the Church of England waited until it was abolished by parliament before it freed it’s slaves, and even then it accepted the blood-money compensation for the loss of it’s slaves. 13 years of his life William Wilberforce highlighted the abhorrences of the slave trade 13 years in which the church of England did nothing on its own to free its slaves. And this is only one example where the Church of England illustrated that there was no inextricable link between it and Christ. And just to be brief a more recent example is when a man entered into a sin of Adultery (Matthew 5:32, Matthew 19:9) by marrying a divorced woman, it in the form of Archbishop of Canterbury blessed the couple knowing that couple was going to remain in this state of adultery. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4428161….

    And as for the Roman Church, the Church I was baptised into as a matter of interest, When it addresses the issues raised by the BBC Panorama program entitled Sex Crimes and the Vatican http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programm…, When it appoints only qualified people into its offices of authority, when it returns to God’s word, maybe then can it pontificate of try and impose its will on the lives of ordinary people. There is no scripture for the office of Cardinal. There are strict scriptural qualification for Bishop, that none of the current holders comply with, not even the bishop of Rome. Before being Cardinal Mr O’Brien was a bishop but he was not qualified by the word of God. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage… For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God? God’s word says that he MUST be married to one wife, and that he can keep his children in subjection to him.

    Sorry for being so heavy, but theology is one of my specialities, has been for 40 years and more.

    We should not be pondering these mutterings by these people, we should be replying with, “Who do they think they are?”

    Amen

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  4. Comment on Happy New Year…
    on 1 January 2012 at 12:53 pm

    My wishes for 2012

    May this be the year that Humanity defeats Religion

    May this be the year when we realize that peace is not the absence of violence rather that it is the presence of justice

    May this be the year we pay out more for the law abiding pensioners who have supported us all their years, than we do for society’s enemies, we keep behind bars

    May this be the year we all set aside our principles – and do the right thing

    May this be the year that we reward those who do the work.

    May this be the year we look back on in years to come as -the good old days-

    best wishes to everyone friend a foe alike

    gerry

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  5. Comment on Meet Kim Jong-un, he may need your advice
    on 20 December 2011 at 12:15 am

    Oh, and by the way, growing eyes on the back of your head, young man, would be a good idea.

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  6. Comment on UK road deaths
    on 10 December 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Is it worth noting, that many of those boy (accident-looking-for-a-place-happen) racers who have killed themselves in their cars through the years are not on our roads any more, therefore our roads are safer without them.

    I remember years ago, pre-MOT days, saying to a farmer motorist, driving a car up around Moorfields, whose car was rusted and literally held together in places by cord, “All you basically need is 4 new tyres, and then get something to put them on”. I concur that vehicle design and testing has done a lot to keeping fatalities low, a sad fact remains, that although we are 9/10 more likely to be killed by sober drivers it is the 1/10 drivers under the influence of drugs or alcohol who will be prosecuted the hardest.

    We can reduce fatalities even more when we get our heads around the fact that sober drivers are the worst on our roads. Sober Drivers Kill also.

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  7. Comment on Protestant monarch, but secular schools?
    on 10 December 2011 at 12:01 pm

    the irony of this old religion/politic debate/state-of-affairs,

    if youcaste your minds back to our recent past to a case in England where a gay couple won damages for being declined a room, shared bed in a ‘christian’ guesthouse, declined by the religious beliefs of the guesthouse owners.

    The Christian Lobby hailing it as an attack on their Religious Freedom.

    Irony, Mr Jeffrey Donaldson, in defending the Act of Settlement is acting to deny to the Monarch, the same Religious Freedom the rest of Christendom on these islands hold dear for themselves.

    Mr Jeffrey Donaldson wants religious freedom for himself, family, friends, church etc, but not for his King or Queen.

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  8. Comment on Peter Robinson: tactics, strategy and prisons
    on 26 November 2011 at 8:40 pm

    I think it would be substantially easier for the DUP to attract Catholic Voters than it would be for them to attract gay voters. I think they will always see gays as ‘us and them’

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  9. Comment on Peter Robinson: “If we want a better society it can’t be ‘them and us’.”
    on 26 November 2011 at 8:26 pm

    regarding “As an initial target, I want us to sign-up 5,000 Registered Party Supporters before the conference next year and 5,000 more the year after. And yes, I admit it. I hope that Registered Party Supporters will, in their own time, ease themselves into membership of the party itself.”

    They will need to get their act together, I looked at the on line registration page and downloaded the application, as it says i would agree to be bound by the party rules i asked for a copy before i would sing it. only a fool would sign up not knowing the rules, reading the small print.

    I am waiting almost 2 months now, for a copy of the rules, beginning to think they might not exist.

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  10. Comment on What’s all this #fracking nonsense then Arlene?
    on 25 November 2011 at 6:51 pm

    I am always cagey about language,

    had no direct involvement

    does that mean had involvement but not directly

    had involvement through a proxy

    would have been better to say had no involvement whatsoever than say no direct involvement.

    i am just suspicious now about the language used.

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