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  1. Comment on The Robinson Allister spat in the context of the Hass talks
    on 30 September 2013 at 4:01 pm

    (My apologies, it seems I pressed the enter key too soon and have broken my response into two posts).

    As for your diatribes against Sinn Fein Ministers, will you spare a thought for the whiter than white Unionist ministers who may have something to fear?

    The bigoted Edwin Pootrs pursuing any anti-gay legislation he can, up to and including the UK supreme court, spending tens of thousands of pounds to be told at the end (as he will) that it’s rank discrimination is surely the most egregious example.

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  2. Comment on The Robinson Allister spat in the context of the Hass talks
    on 30 September 2013 at 3:51 pm

    “However, the simple fact is that he is much more convincing as a cross community person than Martin McGuinness”

    No, it is not a fact, it is an opinion. And a mainfestly ill-formed one that. The only people who can judge whether Peter is a better ‘cross-community person’ would be northern nationalists. Last time I checked, you don’t fit into that category.

    It’s akin to Boris Johnson saying that ‘of course Margaret Thatcher was a better communicator than Neil Kinnock’. His sympathies and background warp his answer.

    Of course, we would then face a similar issue to yourself in that we would be unable to judge MMcG’s outreach as we aren’t the intended audience.

    But you shouldn’t presume to speak for us.You’ve a poor track record of reading Nationalist minds or intent and should stick to where you are genuinely illuminating and insightful, intra-unionist bickering and thought processes.

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  3. Comment on #WillieFrazer dresses as Abu Hamza for court
    on 27 September 2013 at 4:29 pm


    Sorry it came across like that. Just pointing out that there is no way this is salvageable for Willie and it reflects badly on the people who supported him (of course given the riots maybe they dont have much of an image left to damage).

    It’s like a credibility event horizon, beyond this point you shall forever be a laughing stock.

    What on earth possessed him to actually do this?

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  4. Comment on #WillieFrazer dresses as Abu Hamza for court
    on 27 September 2013 at 4:13 pm

    “Read on UTV website that he got changed before actually entering the court.”

    Because the media across the water are really going to belabour THAT point instead of saying ‘crazy man dresses as Abu Hamza. Look at him people! Have a laugh at him and by extension, everyone like him.’

    Willie has done himself no favours at all today except to portray himself and as a buffoon, someone not worthy of taking remotely seriously, someone easily dismissed.

    Seriously this is almost as bad George Galloway’s cat performance, with a similar impact on credibility.

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  5. Comment on #WillieFrazer dresses as Abu Hamza for court
    on 27 September 2013 at 12:35 pm

    “The law that they [the authorities] are trying to charge me with was brought out to deal with extreme Muslims…This was a good law”

    Words fail me.

    It’s ok when laws are used against one group of people, but not when it’s against my group of people. Or, more particularly, when it is me.

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  6. Comment on Returning to the Problem of Incentives: An Ardoyne Twelfth
    on 16 July 2013 at 7:38 pm


    So the only way the spiralling violence can be halted is by complete capitulation to the rioter’s demands?

    Let me guess, when its complete capitulation to Republican rioting it’s bad and pandering to Sinn Fein, when its complete capitulation to Loyalist rioting it’s common sense and ‘not rocket science’.

    In all seriousness, do you ever stop to ponder if your hypocrisy is what keeps you from being taken more seriously?

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  7. Comment on A5 ruling: “They should not be left in any doubt about what may or may not occur…”
    on 9 April 2013 at 10:02 pm

    “I’m in favour of improved roads as much as anyone. I may be the only one here who remembers the nightmarish drive between Derry and Dungiven up to the later 60s when you were never convinced that the bus would make it around the next corner or go tumbling over the edge but don’t discount the importance also of prime agricultural land. Need a compromise.”

    Biggest local news this week is the closure of Linton and Robinsons with the loss of thirty odd jobs. Strabane fills up with cheap money shops and other tat and every few months another store shuts down.

    For a few years the lifeline of the A5 dual carriageway has been there, promising that maybe this time it would be different, that people in this area would finally get some investment, jobs and opportunities beyond the youth of the town working shifts at the local ASDA, those lucky to get a job.

    Instead we’ve had to listen to the antics of the Alternative A5 Alliance, very much a fringe group as they have tried every option to prevent the one major investment our area has gained in decades. And it sadly looks like they’ve succeded.

    So is this compromise? My area condemned to eternal depression at the behest of an industry that only survives because it literally milks the EU CAP? How long would these farmers survive on their own if it wasn’t for that foul policy.

    Do you at least appreciate how much this fills with incandescent anger that we are in the process of again being cheated and my local area sinks even lower? Or that each time this project is apparently on it’s last legs I see demands for the money to be redistributed towards Belfast.

    I wonder what Sinn Fein and the SDLP are now doing behind the scenes over this issue and they better be doing something. The West of the province are their electoral heartlands and if they can’t deliver us any tangible improvements maybe that electoral apathy will get worse.

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  8. Comment on A5 ruling: “They should not be left in any doubt about what may or may not occur…”
    on 9 April 2013 at 7:35 pm

    “I sure hope that this decision by the Judge doesn’t mean that no action will be undertaken to carry out some badly needed improvements. Following an appropriate assessment, surely some parts of the proposed upgrade can be carried out with a look to future incorporation into a new complete route.”

    The badly needed improvement is the dual carriageway the majority of people in the region have been hoping for now for quite some time. Anything else will be rightly seen as a weak cast off that will do nothing to help the people of the West who aren’t Farmers.

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  9. Comment on A5 ruling: “They should not be left in any doubt about what may or may not occur…”
    on 8 April 2013 at 7:55 pm

    “Quite unbelievable , congratulations to the local group who have took on a system heavily stacked against them. Time to go back to drawing board and a few reasonable plans.”

    Oh it’s not unbelievable. The West actually get any sort of infrastructure? We can’t have that, perish the thought. I’m sure if the project fails the money will be re-directed to that most deserving of deprived areas, Belfast.

    I guess the tailbacks this group generate as they drive their tractors at 10 miles per hour down the current rickety A5 won’t be consigned to the past quite yet. I’m sure their farms need protecting. How else can they claim from the EU to sustain their livelihoods?

    But on the bright side, the wonderful habitats will now be preserved for blow-ins from outside the area to enjoy on the few occasions they deign to visit us whilst the majority of the inhabitants of the economic crater that is the West get to struggle to attract any kind of investment to provide jobs for locals.

    But sure, the dual carriageway weren’t needed. There is data showing the traffic isn’t at the requisite level. Because the northwest is an economic crater, a major contributing factor of which is our lack of viable infrastructure. Chicken and egg stuff.

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  10. Comment on Origins of the Northern Irish conflict: Gerrymandering and mistrust…
    on 5 April 2013 at 12:19 am

    Gerrymandering and mistrust the origins of this conflict? This conflict stretches back centuries, it just mutates from generation to generation with the reasons changing as our communal narratives progress. Gael vs Planters, Catholic vs Protestant, Jacobite vs Williamite, Everyone outside the Ascendancy vs the Ascendancy, Nationalists vs Unionists. Maybe in eighty years it will be those in favour of joining the United States of Europe against those who want to retain the Union with England, the split will just happen to almost exactly mirror sectarian lines.

    “These are just the hellish, brutish bumps and fatal thumps that tend to come with states bedding down, look at the hell Germany went through and then dished out in terms of its nation state building and the mayhem for it and europe when shifting from monarchy to democracy, in the end.”

    Northern Ireland isn’t Brazil, but it sure as hell isn’t Germany either.

    The hellish, brutish bumps you describe are the outworkings of Northern Ireland’s design flaws.

    If it were a car, it would have been recalled and scrapped and the manufacturer rightfully excoriated in public for having released such a malformed product.

    But it’s a statelet so it has to be kept going no matter what and after nearly one hundred years the only way it’s kept minimally functioning is with a sectarian headcount democracy where nobody is trusted to form the opposition and money is simply bunged here from Brussels and London to keep us all quiet, so much as possible.

    And in the meanwhile, we all hope that one day, the next generation will overcome our failures and reach that promised land of togetherness. Kicking the can down the road generation after generation.

    What if what we have now is the best we’re going to get? Two ethnic groups with an entrenched interest in perpetuating division at every level of society from primary school to Stormont, staggering from crisis to crisis punctuated by bouts of anemic non-action in tackling the problems we face?

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