“It’s exactly the same case. “Let’s club together to keep the taigs out”. ”
In my mind it’s possible to separate the two of them. FST has an abstentionist MP who celebrates a mass murder campaign.
I don’t see the big need to club together to keep Alastair McDonell out and I won’t be led by the nose into putting an X beside a communalist candidate in my constituency.
I’m quite politically minded and a convinced unionist, but that could well be off to the infamous “garden centre” for me…
As I’ve said over on another thread, I am a South Belfast voter and won’t be voting for any communalist ‘unity’ candidate.
I was a UUP voter who finally got fed up circa 2007 and decided I was going to vote Conservative next time (even though they were highly unlikely to win any seats at any level). I was enthused by the Conservative and Unionist project but would be extremely annoyed by any withdrawal in my home constituency.
And I certainly won’t be voting for some sort of “pan-Prod” party in future. Essentially what this would achieve would be to lose people like me as voters at all.
The manifestos for this year’s campaign isn’t out yet and the great bulk of campaign literature isn’t out yet.
But in case you really are that stupid, I’ll spell it out to you – the Scottish Conservatives actively and prominently use the title “Conservative and Unionist” in election campaigns.
Ross was actually, way back in Feb 1974, one of the first tranche of Ulster Unionist MPs elected outside of the Conservative whip. Indeed in that election, the fact that the 7 UUP MPs didn’t take the Conservative whip meant that in a very close finish it was Labour rather than the Conservatives who were the largest party in the House of Commons (by 4 seats I think) – Heath left office and Wilson became PM leading a minority government.
The Scottish Conservative manifesto for last year’s European election, to cite but one example, clearly had “Scottish Conservative & Unionist” emblazoned on the front cover:
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Comment on South Belfast Orange and Black call for agreement
on 12 April 2010 at 2:46 am
Comrade Stalin
“It’s exactly the same case. “Let’s club together to keep the taigs out”. ”
In my mind it’s possible to separate the two of them. FST has an abstentionist MP who celebrates a mass murder campaign.
I don’t see the big need to club together to keep Alastair McDonell out and I won’t be led by the nose into putting an X beside a communalist candidate in my constituency.
I’m quite politically minded and a convinced unionist, but that could well be off to the infamous “garden centre” for me…
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Comment on United Unionist Force?
on 12 April 2010 at 2:40 am
Andrew
As I’ve said over on another thread, I am a South Belfast voter and won’t be voting for any communalist ‘unity’ candidate.
I was a UUP voter who finally got fed up circa 2007 and decided I was going to vote Conservative next time (even though they were highly unlikely to win any seats at any level). I was enthused by the Conservative and Unionist project but would be extremely annoyed by any withdrawal in my home constituency.
And I certainly won’t be voting for some sort of “pan-Prod” party in future. Essentially what this would achieve would be to lose people like me as voters at all.
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Comment on South Belfast Orange and Black call for agreement
on 12 April 2010 at 2:24 am
Amen to what GavBelfast said.
This South Belfast unionist voter will NOT be voting for any communalist ‘unity’ candidate.
I will vote Conservative and Unionist if given the chance – if not, then I’m not going to be coralled into tribalism by some marching fools.
South Belfast is a different case to Fermanagh & South Tyrone anyway.
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Comment on South Antrim report: The most marginal of them all?
on 9 April 2010 at 1:24 pm
Michaelhenry
The manifestos for this year’s campaign isn’t out yet and the great bulk of campaign literature isn’t out yet.
But in case you really are that stupid, I’ll spell it out to you – the Scottish Conservatives actively and prominently use the title “Conservative and Unionist” in election campaigns.
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Comment on The Election Speculation Game: Where will the Traditional Unionist Voice be heard the loudest?
on 9 April 2010 at 3:28 am
Drumlins Rock
Interesting quote from Willie Ross.
Ross was actually, way back in Feb 1974, one of the first tranche of Ulster Unionist MPs elected outside of the Conservative whip. Indeed in that election, the fact that the 7 UUP MPs didn’t take the Conservative whip meant that in a very close finish it was Labour rather than the Conservatives who were the largest party in the House of Commons (by 4 seats I think) – Heath left office and Wilson became PM leading a minority government.
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Comment on South Antrim report: The most marginal of them all?
on 9 April 2010 at 3:17 am
Michaelhenry
You’re clearly not paying close attention then.
The Scottish Conservative manifesto for last year’s European election, to cite but one example, clearly had “Scottish Conservative & Unionist” emblazoned on the front cover:
http://www.voteforchangeni.com/index.php?command=FILES_DOWNLOAD&download=6576c98e90ca69180fc871a1e563ff8e
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Comment on Chris Grayling adopts the Adrian Watson policy position…
on 7 April 2010 at 2:56 pm
Procrasnow
“Britain” is quite clearly regularly used to mean “the United Kingdom” rather than just “Great Britain”. For example:
http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page823
“On this site the term ‘Britain’ is used informally to mean the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.”
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Comment on STOP THE PRESS! BBC own up to being the broadcasting wing of the IRA/UCUNF/TUV…..
on 5 April 2010 at 1:55 am
Robinson’s “they’re out to get me” comments were both pathetic and quite hilarious…BUT…
Chris, don’t you feel a little silly about this now given the comments from another “Dear Leader” closer to your political tendancy, earlier today?
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Comment on The two faces of UUP policy…
on 24 March 2010 at 9:08 pm
Greenflag
“Three faeces”?:-)
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Comment on The origins of distrust between unionists and the Tories…
on 23 March 2010 at 6:32 pm
“To this day, the unionist people are to be heard referring to this territory as ‘this country’. Of course, it is not a ‘country’ in any sense ”
Perhaps Eric might want to argue this point with the United Kingdom government, which defines Northern Ireland as a constituent country of the UK.
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