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1. Comment on Time for unionists to display their faith in agreements
   on 11 April 2009 at 2:49 pm

   FD,

   Re. Transfers

   In simple terms, the transfers of the ‘funny’ (ie non tribal parties) parties was split roughly 50/50 between the 2 tribal blocks last time out – I am assuming the same thing again.

   In relation to the big tribal parties – I am assuming that the UU even with the addition of the OU (overseas unionists) /Tories will continue their decline and the same will happen with the Republican lite SDLP.

   The DUP will however lose a small amount to the TUV – I think the “SF will top the poll” line will play well and minimize the Lunidification of Robbo attempt by the TUV.

   Although I think the introduction of the OU will tempt the garden-centre-prods out of their potting sheds and into the polling booths the increase in the good guys demographic will partly off-set this. The tribal vote will be won by Prods with the Fenians about 5,000 behind.

   re. “I am fascinated Sammy where your CU’s 80,000 comes from can you do the maths. ”

   I base these figures on a secret mathematical formula devised in the Vatican by You know who/the dark lord/God’s represenative on Earth/the antichrist/He who must be obeyed/the Nazi boyscout

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2. Comment on Robinson preparing to move on policing and justice?
   on 5 April 2009 at 2:39 pm

   Since last November when Robbo and Marty decided to kiss, chuckle and make up it always looked like there was as an understanding on the process if not the exact date of the transfer.

   The “is a target is a deadline” debate which raged on Slugger for months consistently missed the crucial politics of this issue namerly that it is the last piece of the political and peace process and it was highly unlikely that the Englezes could permit its non imlementation so long as SF kept their house in order no matter what the apparent benefit DUP votes at Westminster might be to them. Both Robbo and Deputy Dodsy have admitted that threats from the Englezes have kept them on the striaght and narrow.

   The DUP have been (continue to be) successful in delying the inevitable but in the process they seem to have inadvertently choreographed the isseue with the forthcoming elections. Having been elected to smash SF, the DUP may, if Jimbo can get traction on this issue, be helping SF over the Euro line as poll winners.

   Turgon,

   do you agree this issue will be a major weapon in Jimbo’s armoury for the election?

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3. Comment on Unionists fight over Maze
   on 4 April 2009 at 8:01 pm

   Turgon,

   re. cinema.

   Hunger is available on DVD.

   I presume that your contention that Bobby Sands beliefs contained a “large dose of sectarianism” is based on your contention that the PIRA embraced a sectarian ideology and as Bobby Sands was a member, it is reasonable, as you see it, to assume he was sectarian or he would not have joined?

   I dont think most historians would agree that the PIRA campaign was a sectarian campaign or was the prime motivation for most individuals but few would try to deny that aspects of the campaign were sectarian.

   I know the roll-call of attacks (Le Mon, Enniskillen etc) which were truly shocking but the vast majority of the Provos campaign were not directed at secatrian targets.

   Comrade Stalin,

   and there I was successfully passing myself off as a Prod called Sammy and you go and use my fenian name – any more of that and I will get my bestest friend Pete Baker on your case as it must surely be in breech of some obscure Slugger rule.

   re. Police Bill – if it was not important then why was it recently amended?

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4. Comment on Unionists fight over Maze
   on 4 April 2009 at 5:32 pm

   Reader,

   “I am curious why you think watching it might make a difference, though.? ”

   I dont know whether it would make a difference to you or not what I am curious about is how Prods view the film which portrays Bobby Sands as an articulate person driven by political conviction.

   Whether they would view it simply as propaganda or would accept his convistion but view him as I might view a suicide bomber in Britain.

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5. Comment on Unionists fight over Maze
   on 4 April 2009 at 3:41 pm

   Reader,

   as a fair-minded-Prod-type-about-this-place did you see the film Hunger? did any Prods you know go to see it and in general what did they/you think of it?

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6. Comment on Hello from the Fine Gael Ard Fheis
   on 4 April 2009 at 1:53 pm

   Stephen,

   FG had a real opportunity before the last election to actually stand up and tell it like it was ie they did not believe Berty’s ridiculous Father-Tedesque-stories on RTE and that the FF adminsitration was corrupt. This would have been a political gamble and would have gone aginst the ‘mood’ of the Plain poeple of Ireland as would telling them that the housing market was sooner or later going to implode.

   FG decided not to do those things and now is left open to the same accusation as FF that they were did not either understand what the feck was going on or were benefitting from it personally (legally or illegally) and did not want to rock the little green boat apparently sailing merrily along on the economic seas.

   FG will clearly benefit form the financial disasters that have befallen the economy but the boy Enda is a very poor communicator and surely the unspoken question in everyones mind at the conference is when is Enda going to get off the stage and let someone else have a go or surely they will slowly lose their momentum and continue to look like FF-Lite.

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7. Comment on Unionists fight over Maze
   on 4 April 2009 at 1:12 pm

   Frustrated Democrat

   The odds below are from Paddy Power which suggest your estimate of the TUV vote is not far off but probably a bit on the high side.

   I dont think these figures have moved since I looked a few months ago which suggests that there is considerable uncertainty about how this election is unfolding and nobody has has fecked up too much recently or become flavour of the month.

   I personally think Jimbo will get less that 20,000 as all the DUP need to say is (as mentioned many times by many here before), that a vote for Jimbo is a vote more to help SF top the poll and also possibly to let the SDLP get the third seat from the SF surplus.

   Regarding the Tory/NF vote cant see Unionists moving back from the DUP but turnout in North Down and other alleged Garden-centre-Prod-strongholds should be up from a very low figure last time round IN 2004.

   Paddy Power says..

   0 – 10,000 7 – 1
   10,001 – 20,000 9 – 2
   20,001 – 30,000 3 – 1
   30,001 – 40,000 9 – 4
   40,001 – 50,000 4 – 1
   50,001 – 60,000 6 – 1
   60,001 or more 4 – 1

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8. Comment on Unionists fight over Maze
   on 4 April 2009 at 12:22 pm

   Slightly off topic – but did any Unionists actually go to see Hunger and if so what did they think? Biased republican propaganda?

   It was hard not to see the film as a ‘positive’ portrayal of Bobby Sands and republicanism (I had some reservations about the script in places) although I was sympathetic to the hunger strikers to start with.

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9. Comment on Unionists fight over Maze
   on 4 April 2009 at 12:16 pm

   Peter,

   “Bobby sands was a person from Northern Ireland who joined the IRA, was jailed for his activities”

   Fair Point

   BUT

   You, and me, and most nationlaists, may be happy with neutral language but I suspect most Unionists will not – look at the furore over Eames Bradley where a ‘neutral’ body drew up the proposals. The shooting of prison guards during the hunger strike would be one example of where there would be real difficulties – were they ‘murdered’ or ‘killed’.

   I was personally in favour of the ‘Bobby bowl’ and still favour an educational/peace centre but perhaps private investment with members of the public invited to buy shares would be the best way forward.

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10. Comment on Unionists fight over Maze
    on 4 April 2009 at 3:24 am

    Peter Fyfe

    Was Bobby Sands a murdering terrorist or an insurgent of principle?

    The ‘facts’ are always viewed through the filter of ideology particalalry in Norn Iron.

    6CountyProd

    I think 20,000 is nearer 5% – and I wonder if he he gets less than 10% if he can carry on. I personally think he comes across very well and although I disagree with him I think he is operating on the basis of principle and have a grudging respect for him.

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