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1. Comment on For Unionists Only: What would you relish in a United Ireland?
   on 19 April 2012 at 1:25 am

   between the bridges, yes it is harder for some of us to say what we would like in an undefined United Ireland compared to nationalists who live in a defined United Kingdom.

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2. Comment on For Unionists Only: What would you relish in a United Ireland?
   on 18 April 2012 at 11:54 pm

   Furthermore, I don’t think the Irish know what they want to do with power.

   They got rid of the Brits as overlords, and replaced them with the Roman Catholic Church for a while.

   They are slamming down on the Catholic Church now, but they are giving more power to Brussels and Berlin.

   Why should we join a country that gives away power so meekly? I’m not sure. They are still in Civil War politics, and that finished 90 years ago, not saying NI is anyway perfect by the way.

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3. Comment on For Unionists Only: What would you relish in a United Ireland?
   on 18 April 2012 at 11:47 pm

   “Golden Fleece.The question is to some extent harder for Unionists to answer than for Nationalists. Nationalists already have experience of what it’s like living in the UK and know what they like and what they don’t based on every day life. For Unionists there is more conjecture since most Unionists take their view on RoI from a mixed bag of sources but very little of it based on actual experience. Most of the comments on this thread reflect how Unionists see life under SF rather than a grasp of what living with the Southerners would be like.”

   AlanBrooke, as an unionist, I respect the doctrine of republicanism, I think it has great insights to humanity and equality that constitutional monarchies copy today.

   And I have no doubt that some Irish people are true republicans in the doctrine sense.

   But, Sinn Fein are not a Republican movement, forthmost, they are an extreme nationalist movement, as well are many Irish people who beat their chest and call themselves republicans. Republicanism is just a secondary outcome. For example ask an “Irish Republican” if they would accept a Republic of Northern Ireland? Most would scoff, this is because republicanism is not the primary objective, it never was.

   I have every respect for Republicanism, such as the US, France etc, I have none for nationalism, which is one of the curses of this world – which has blighted the two communities of NI as well as the ROI. It is a pity that ROI was never a republic.

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4. Comment on For Unionists Only: What would you relish in a United Ireland?
   on 18 April 2012 at 8:27 pm

   If the ROI actually had become a proper Republic and instigated full seperation of church and state in education, in very matter, I might be okay with an United Ireland.

   But I don’t think the Irish people actually have the balls to be a proper republic to be honest.

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5. Comment on Sinn Fein’s seven goals towards unification?
   on 8 April 2012 at 6:53 pm

   The problem for a United Ireland now is that the border is practically non-existant anyway.

   It is probably one of the most porous borders in the world, so much so that the only difference a United Ireland would make is to send one politican from London to Dublin instead – hardly very inspiring – particularily as the ROI is still stuck in civil war politics.

   Does voting for a President of Ireland or sending a TD to the Dail make you more Irish? If not, what is the point of an United Ireland? More power? Is that it?

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6. Comment on Catholic family in Armagh prepared to give up a bed for Nesbitt…
   on 3 April 2012 at 9:09 pm

   DR, was that not more down to UUP stupidity with McClarty rather than Lesley? McClarty was well respected in that area.

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7. Comment on Catholic family in Armagh prepared to give up a bed for Nesbitt…
   on 3 April 2012 at 9:42 am

   For just £3 a month you too could adopt a politican.

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8. Comment on Robinson: “Only those who can adapt to changing circumstances remain standing”
   on 30 March 2012 at 11:05 am

   “He’s right – but not necessarily in the way many may think. Ulster’s distinction – “beyond the Pale” – was that it was the least British-friendly part of Irleand; the part most resistent to occupation and foreign rule. Hence the Plantation. Nothing new there but worth remembering.”

   Ruarai,
   True, but it goes the other way as well. The Ulster kingdoms rebelled more fiercely then any other kingdoms when Brian Boru tried to unite the Island of Ireland into a single identity.

   The north has always danced to its own beat throughout history, despite what the rest of the island or Britain would have otherwise.

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9. Comment on Fintan O’Toole: “Power corrupts, but so does a sense of powerlessness”
   on 28 March 2012 at 10:54 am

   “He should start with systemic corruption of the news agenda at The Irish Times.”

   Let me guess Alias, The Irish Times are part of the “West Brit” media cartel?

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10. Comment on John McCallister: future leader of the Opposition?
    on 24 March 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Jesus, Nesbitt is all over the place trying to be all things to all people in the party. I can’t think of anything more off putting.

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