Me thinks the Maguires of Enniskillen did a runner with the Flight of the Earls and took their flegs and emblems with them to Spain 80/ 90 odd years before the formation of the Royal Enniskillen regiments who were at the Boyne 1690
“By 1607 O’Neill’s allies The Maguire and the Earl of Tyrconnell were finding it hard to maintain their prestige on lower incomes.
I know Tom Elliot and all the unionists in the surrounding area would not approve, but If the castle and its museums function is primarily to promote history, rather than 21st century political one up mans ship then a flag of the man who built the castle Hugh Maguire could be flown alongside the St George’s flag. Just a suggestion for the republicans to consider.
Mister_Joe, I don’t doubt it regards the old Carrickfergus Museum. This happens to many Local Museums including the recent new museum at Lisburn. If locals have to pay a small fee to enter their local museum they won’t visit it unless its free.
When direct rule was in place Carrickfergus Castle Museum was no longer run by the local council. Pre 1978 the Irish Dragoon officers uniforms including a uniform of Winston Churchill along with many other military artifacts from Irish 19 century regiments was on display in the castle. All were removed and went on display in the Dragoon regiments museum in York. After the GFA in 1998 they never came back to Carrickfergus. So there is nothing to see today.
Another interesting story is at the start of the troubles there was a 4 pounder field gun (minus breech) from the Boer war on display outside Belfast City Hall beside the Irish (Ulster) rifles statue. In 1969 the council had it removed to Theipval Barracks in Lisburn for safe keeping and guess what? The Paras stole it and it is now on display at the gates of their Regimental headquarters Colchester. Like the Military uniforms from Carrickfergus in 1998 it was never replaced.
I wonder how many NI citizens have ever been to visit the musuem in Enniskillen Castle let alone know it existed? On 2nd thoughts, Tom Elliot and the Orangemen of Fermanagh and South Tyrone should indeed be grateful the 13 Nationalists on FDC have given this military museum such publicity. (Controversial it may be). I will no doubt pay it a visit next time I am in or passing through Enniskillen.
“Enniskillen Castle is situated in Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland. It was originally built in the 16th century and now houses the Fermanagh County Museum and the regimental museum of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards.”
“The idea that the English flag should be flying there 365 days a year in a nationalist county is ridiculous anyway and should be changed permanently.”
The flag in question seems to be an artifact and part of the history in attached to the Castle Museum. Its removal would only be seen by Fermanagh Unionists and the local Orange lodges as just a beginning by republicans in removing other such artifacts from the museum. So one can understand UUP MLA Tom Elliot’s concern.
‘Enniskillen Castle’
“The castle also houses the Inniskillings Museum, which is the regimental museum of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards. Displays include uniforms, medals, flags, regimental regalia, weapons and other military memorabilia.”
Unlike the Belfast City Council Union flag issue At least G8 is over in one week and that will be the end of it, and the leaflets will be all forgotten. The St George’s flag will still be flying over Enniskillen Castle which will please the members of the local Orange Order as they are the the ones most interested in the 1689/90 “Battle of the Boyne” history. Unless of course the 13 nationalists ( mostly SF) on FDC have anything else up their devious little sleeves to aggravate Tom Campbell and Unionists of Fermanagh and South Tyrone.
The reason behind the council’s decision to remove this flag is that Fermanagh District Council has a Nationalist majority (23 seats 10 unionist and 13 nationalist).
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on 18 June 2013 at 10:21 am
“Query: Why are the EU and Republic of Ireland flags at the Lough Erne G8 resort?”
Maybe Kinsally could produce a photograph showing the
“Republic of Ireland flag at the Lough Erne G8 resort?”?
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Comment on No room for British #flegs in, erm, British Fermanagh…
on 12 June 2013 at 10:16 am
Me thinks the Maguires of Enniskillen did a runner with the Flight of the Earls and took their flegs and emblems with them to Spain 80/ 90 odd years before the formation of the Royal Enniskillen regiments who were at the Boyne 1690
“By 1607 O’Neill’s allies The Maguire and the Earl of Tyrconnell were finding it hard to maintain their prestige on lower incomes.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_of_the_Earls&sa=U&ei=yDi4UZmhOaXb0QXt4IEI&ved=0CBsQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHJzqT0FKE9k105YEx2-pzvFn9O9A
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Comment on See that #fleg in Enniskillen? Well, now you don’t…
on 10 June 2013 at 9:43 am
I know Tom Elliot and all the unionists in the surrounding area would not approve, but If the castle and its museums function is primarily to promote history, rather than 21st century political one up mans ship then a flag of the man who built the castle Hugh Maguire could be flown alongside the St George’s flag. Just a suggestion for the republicans to consider.
http://www.enniskillencastle.co.uk//page.cfm/area/information/page/Maguire%20Chieftains/pkey/109
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on 10 June 2013 at 9:26 am
The flag of St George will continue to fly over Enniskillen Castle despite Sinn Fein attempts to force its removal, Tom Elliott has claimed.
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/elliott-defiant-in-st-george-flag-row-1-5176239
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on 10 June 2013 at 8:01 am
Mister_Joe, I don’t doubt it regards the old Carrickfergus Museum. This happens to many Local Museums including the recent new museum at Lisburn. If locals have to pay a small fee to enter their local museum they won’t visit it unless its free.
When direct rule was in place Carrickfergus Castle Museum was no longer run by the local council. Pre 1978 the Irish Dragoon officers uniforms including a uniform of Winston Churchill along with many other military artifacts from Irish 19 century regiments was on display in the castle. All were removed and went on display in the Dragoon regiments museum in York. After the GFA in 1998 they never came back to Carrickfergus. So there is nothing to see today.
Another interesting story is at the start of the troubles there was a 4 pounder field gun (minus breech) from the Boer war on display outside Belfast City Hall beside the Irish (Ulster) rifles statue. In 1969 the council had it removed to Theipval Barracks in Lisburn for safe keeping and guess what? The Paras stole it and it is now on display at the gates of their Regimental headquarters Colchester. Like the Military uniforms from Carrickfergus in 1998 it was never replaced.
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on 9 June 2013 at 6:27 am
I wonder how many NI citizens have ever been to visit the musuem in Enniskillen Castle let alone know it existed? On 2nd thoughts, Tom Elliot and the Orangemen of Fermanagh and South Tyrone should indeed be grateful the 13 Nationalists on FDC have given this military museum such publicity. (Controversial it may be). I will no doubt pay it a visit next time I am in or passing through Enniskillen.
“Enniskillen Castle is situated in Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland. It was originally built in the 16th century and now houses the Fermanagh County Museum and the regimental museum of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enniskillen_Castle
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on 8 June 2013 at 3:09 pm
“The idea that the English flag should be flying there 365 days a year in a nationalist county is ridiculous anyway and should be changed permanently.”
The flag in question seems to be an artifact and part of the history in attached to the Castle Museum. Its removal would only be seen by Fermanagh Unionists and the local Orange lodges as just a beginning by republicans in removing other such artifacts from the museum. So one can understand UUP MLA Tom Elliot’s concern.
‘Enniskillen Castle’
“The castle also houses the Inniskillings Museum, which is the regimental museum of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards. Displays include uniforms, medals, flags, regimental regalia, weapons and other military memorabilia.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enniskillen_Castle
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on 8 June 2013 at 12:28 pm
What if this King Billy or “Prince of Orange” fleg was put up in its place, would the shinners be any happier?
http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=flag+of+the+prince+of+orange&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ei=MxSzUYTpJc3y0gWukoGYAw&ved=0CCoQsAQ
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on 8 June 2013 at 7:54 am
Unlike the Belfast City Council Union flag issue At least G8 is over in one week and that will be the end of it, and the leaflets will be all forgotten. The St George’s flag will still be flying over Enniskillen Castle which will please the members of the local Orange Order as they are the the ones most interested in the 1689/90 “Battle of the Boyne” history. Unless of course the 13 nationalists ( mostly SF) on FDC have anything else up their devious little sleeves to aggravate Tom Campbell and Unionists of Fermanagh and South Tyrone.
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Comment on See that #fleg in Enniskillen? Well, now you don’t…
on 7 June 2013 at 12:45 pm
The reason behind the council’s decision to remove this flag is that Fermanagh District Council has a Nationalist majority (23 seats 10 unionist and 13 nationalist).
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