Slugger O'Toole

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1. Comment on The citizenship test: Protestants as well as Catholics in favour of fee waiver?
   on 3 May 2012 at 12:37 pm

   I can. Because that’s not what you signed up for in the GFA. There won’t be a border poll unless there is a majority across NI in favour of changing the status quo.

   Your deal. You live with it.

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2. Comment on The citizenship test: Protestants as well as Catholics in favour of fee waiver?
   on 3 May 2012 at 12:12 pm

   What right has anyone to oppose anything?

   By expressing total opposition to Home Rule, unionists forced concessions. Which were then agreed by the Dail and Westminster. That’s called politics.

   What right have nationalists to now oppose the will of the people of RoI, NI, and the legislative will of successive London and Dublin administrations?

   You live in the UK. Get over it. It’s not going to change.

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3. Comment on The citizenship test: Protestants as well as Catholics in favour of fee waiver?
   on 3 May 2012 at 11:43 am

   Tacapall

   I think you’ll find it was a UK General Election. SF won 73 of 707 seats. 4.57% of the vote. Hardly a majority.

   You clutch at straws to suggest that winning a majority in what became the RoI should have allowed SF to drag the whole island out of the Union. SF accepted that in 1922. You should have learnt by now. Maybe the GFA was the AIT for slow leaning nationalists?

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4. Comment on The citizenship test: Protestants as well as Catholics in favour of fee waiver?
   on 3 May 2012 at 10:56 am

   Tomas

   Simply because the GFA says otherwise, and we are led to believe that that document was endorsed, almost unanimously, by the very people who claim to aspire to leave the UK. They have the blueprint – they just need to secure a majority in favour of their aspiration.

   The 1918 UK general election did indeed return a majority of SF MPs. It was not, however, a referendum on leaving the Union. A cursory look at the outcome shows an island divided by its own people, not by any subsequent Border Commission. This was reflected in the Anglo-Irish Treaty, which was approved by the Dail and the UK parliament.

   So, therefore, the treaty negotiated and agreed in 1921 allowed for the partition of Ireland, broadly in line with the outcome of the 1918 election, and this duly happened. The treaty negotiated in 1998 sets a much different scene, with nationalist NI accepting their position within the UK until a majority vote otherwise.

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5. Comment on The citizenship test: Protestants as well as Catholics in favour of fee waiver?
   on 3 May 2012 at 10:15 am

   Tacapall

   That’s what you signed up to in the GFA.

   I, like a majority of unionists, voted against that iniquitous carve-up, but we are all led to believe it got full support from our deluded friends in the Nationalist community. So since you agreed that NI remains part of the UK until a majority in NI vote otherwise, maybe you should set aside your fantasy world and accept that you live in the UK, not the RoI.

   BTW,I am well aware that Ulster is 9 counties. 6 of them comprise NI. not sure what your point is. Although Ireland is 26 counties, not the 32 you aspire to. Stones in glass houses?

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6. Comment on The citizenship test: Protestants as well as Catholics in favour of fee waiver?
   on 3 May 2012 at 9:29 am

   Tacapall

   “are nationalists not entitled to the same equality as unionists?”

   In short, no. There is no equality between fact and fantasy. NI exists as part of the UK. Nationalists have a legitimate aspiration that this situation be changed to subsume NI within a one state solution on this island. But treating this aspiration as some sort of parallel reality is a nonsense.

   I, as I have said above, have no wish to apply for a RoI passport, any more than I wish to apply for an Indian one. I wouldnt have one if they came free and covered in gold – it is mot my country and never will be and you cant buy me for £27k off my kids student loans I do not have dual nationality. I have one nationality, acquired at birth as a UK Citizen. Thus I utterly reject any form of joint authority over this part of the UK. I’d prefer a return to direct rule personally, rather than see Provos in the current unaccountable politburo.

   The 1918 election results mean what exactlly? Demonstrably a huge number of people in the North-east rejected home rule, and were prepared to resist it. The resulting political compromise established the two state solution. Which isn’t going away anytime soon, despite nationalists’ fantasy world where it has.

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7. Comment on The citizenship test: Protestants as well as Catholics in favour of fee waiver?
   on 2 May 2012 at 11:48 pm

   weidm7

   Nothing of the sort. I simply drew a comparison between what the likes of tacapall alleges against past NI governments and what is now advocated going forward.

   tacapall

   Your words – “Yes and Yes Reader but not in perpetuity, how special do you think you are, the majority can decide the future when both traditions have equal status.”

   explain to me where i misrepresent your position.

   Love the “squatting” quip. Hard to squat in your own property with the active and ongoing consent of the residents, no?

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8. Comment on The citizenship test: Protestants as well as Catholics in favour of fee waiver?
   on 2 May 2012 at 11:01 pm

   “Yes and Yes Reader but not in perpetuity, how special do you think you are, the majority can decide the future when both traditions have equal status.”

   Yer a geg Tacapall.

   When the majority disagrees with you, then majority must make concessions to the minority. However, when YOU are the majority, you can make decisions on everyone’s behalf and the minority have to lump it?? And pray tell just how different is that to the so-called years of Unionist mis-rule that you and your ilk chirp on about?

   You won’t live to see a UI Tacapall, so just enjoy your status as a citizen of Her Majesty’s United Kingdom. Because the majority in NI says so, and that won’t change anytime soon.

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9. Comment on The citizenship test: Protestants as well as Catholics in favour of fee waiver?
   on 2 May 2012 at 5:48 pm

   Andrew Gallagher: “I notice no Sluggerite has yet stood up and said they would refuse to apply for an Irish passport on ideological grounds, and we have our fair share of ideologues in here…”

   I would not take a ROI passport if they gave them out free.

   I am not Irish and I do not live in RoI, so while the iniquitous GFA allows RoI to claim all citizens on the island as citizens, i do not recognise that claim. I was born in Belfast, live in Belfast, and am thus and will remain a UK citizen.

   And since NI will remain part of the UK while any of us on here draw breath, i will continue to use my UK passport, and it alone.

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10. Comment on SF Lord Mayor to step down before having to meet the Queen…
    on 23 April 2012 at 12:48 pm

    Beacon for Tyranny indeed. I have seen some nonsense posted on here but really this does take the biscuit.

    I simply cannot see tyranny in a beacon lit to celebrate the milestone of our monarchy’s sixty year reign. QE2 has the respect of the world, yet a few ne’er do wells sit around in their shibeens and whine about tyranny and expect to be taken seriously?

    Her place as our Monarch was confirmed in the otherwise iniquitous GFA, and unless and until a majority vote otherwise will remain so confirmed.

    Get with the programme AR. Even the provos help to administer this part of her realm. She won’t be going away you know.

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