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  1. Comment on Geraldine Finucane: “A deep wound cannot be stitched over and just left because it won’t heal”
    on 19 April 2014 at 12:51 am

    So the state had conspiracies.

    Who else?

    and would they tell all, even to their own?

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  2. Comment on Was Ireland fatally wounded in 1916?
    on 19 April 2014 at 12:44 am

    The 1916 rebellion set Ireland off on a trajectory that could be described as unfortunate. The 1919 secessionist assembly in Dublin that had not really got a sufficient mandate for independence, a civil war in a small country, with an attempt to wage another casual war of attrition against one corner mostly populated by a religious minority. An attempt at an economic siege of a state established by treaty, followed by prolonged economic stagnation.The new Irish state giving the majority religion a privileged status. Casual dumping of a Dominion status that might have served as a link back to the severed northern part. Neutrality and impotency when evil swept Europe and the East. Sustained abandonment of northern Catholics in a state dominated by Protestants. Politicians running guns to proxy catholic armies. Accommodation and legal comfort for political assassins and armed blackmailers. Support for the annexation of a small island of English speaking farmers by a militarist junta that then collapsed. Negotiating an agreement with the English over the heads of the local people affected. Convening an assembly in Dublin to discuss constitutional arrangements and then hijacking the conclusion. Selective murders and general explosive mahem using eastern bloc abbatoir equipment sponsored by various despots and cultural chauvinists, visited on a small often rural and churchgoing population. Non subscribing participants in the English speaking Commonweath.

    Should Michael have paid for dinner?

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  3. Comment on #Villiers, re-hashing Larkin and victim typologies
    on 17 April 2014 at 6:24 am

    “illegal murder carried out by the state is of much greater seriousness than murder carried out by groups which are by their nature illegal and which are not bound by any internationally recognised rules of engagement”

    Yes the state must be accountable, but paramilitaries schooled to defeat prosecution and sponsored by other states should also face investigation, especially when they end up in government.

    Otherwise we risk a revolving door of armed gangs getting into government over the bodies of innocents.

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  4. Comment on #Villiers, re-hashing Larkin and victim typologies
    on 16 April 2014 at 7:53 pm

    John Larkin’s statement makes perfect sense:

    “we have very good tools, subject to the point I’ve made about the passage of time, for critiquing the state, but we don’t have them for bringing to account those who have committed offences against the state”

    The state killed far fewer people.

    What ludicrous typology can we invent that fiddles the books on that one?

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  5. Comment on “That’s the only way I can put,” he said “they sleep with the victims.”
    on 14 April 2014 at 11:08 pm

    A lot of the memorials I see seem to be there for perps not victims.

    I guess victims do not usually have a supporters club.

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  6. Comment on After the Visit, the greater epiphany?
    on 12 April 2014 at 7:06 pm

    The Unionists want what they had, which was political control and materially better living standards. And religious freedom when their tendency to split would leave them vulnerable to a monolithic dominant church, whether Anglican or Roman Catholic.

    But the Unionists cannot spell out what they want as a prelude to negotiation, because they do not want to accept the starting point offered by the Irish state. i.e. Separation from Britain and a particular culture including a dominant position for a church with powerful global connections.

    There cannot be a negotiation (yet), so the Irish are obliged to make goodwill offerings. e.g. Northern Ireland members are offered seats on the Seanad.

    Which Unionists react against of course.

    The murderous PIRA campaign was also toxic.
    Republicans having ceremonial paramilitary funerals in and around Catholic Churches!

    As Ireland the state becomes richer and more secular, the former Unionist non voters become the swing vote who can turn out to stop integration and convergence if the Irish irredentists get their tanky hibernian head on.

    And what if the Prods just up and leave a cold house?

    No biologist would recommend inbreeding for stock, nor should any republican for politics or economics.

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  7. Comment on Michael D and the Queen are just “what you need on occasions like this…”
    on 12 April 2014 at 6:34 pm

    Times change, recently for the better.

    Muddy bloody murder disease famine and and abuse were common in the sixteenth century, but bring any of them back onto the streets in comparatively rich modern industrial states in the 21st and people notice.

    And then there were all those religious wars.

    Has anybody any baggage to declare?

    Should England apologise for dispossessing the monasteries to pay for navies, or should the Irish apologise to the commonwealth countries for also benefitting from the global imperialism of the Brits? Should the Catholic Church repent for colluding in the mass murder of republicans and democrats in the Spanish Civil war?

    Would there have been so many Irish Americans with North America first as a Spanish or French colony?

    We have the history we have, and others have worse.

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  8. Comment on Where does ‘Guns and Government’ leave victims of the Peace Process’s ‘self regulation’?
    on 10 April 2014 at 6:32 am

    “we need to know:

    1, what we’re all actually moving on from;

    2, what we’re expected to move on to.”

    We are moving on from a situation where the authority of the state was in question, and have arrived at a place where there is no substantial challenge to the writ of the state and a broad acceptance that the state can impose legally validated sanctions including force. We have also achieved a rights culture in policing and governance.

    What we are moving on to is in dispute, and also depends on interpretations of a past that is regrettable for people who have been brutalised, and often distressing to people who have been hurt or disadvantaged.

    Our past is overrated and I could hear less about it, especially if we had leadership less invested in it.

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  9. Comment on A reminder that “nations and states can evolve as well as endure…”
    on 8 April 2014 at 11:35 pm

    It was the Irish Book of InvasionS plural.

    Which gang did you arrive with?

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  10. Comment on The prevailing wisdom of A Love Divided
    on 6 April 2014 at 8:00 am

    How ‘Catholic’ was St Paddy?

    He seemed to have been a Billy Graham type travelling preacher, and had the ladies throwing their jewellery on his altar. Good at networking with the local chieftans. Not always popular with the church establishment.

    It was on TV so must be true.

    The old irish church was full of people who would be termed heretics now, and whose views were suppressed.

    The Roman Catholic church has a huge establishment to support in perpetuity, so has interests to declare when discussing issues of the recruitment of babies and small children and the building of schools serving immigrants. Also when discussing the political future of a non-catholic minority in one corner of this rich island.

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  11. Comment on Court dismisses case because there were too few present who were likely to be offended?
    on 6 April 2014 at 7:43 am

    When the power of paramilitary and sectarian groups depends on their ability to provoke over-reaction and illusions of persecution among their members, maybe the law is entitled to risk its reputation by treating provocateurs with kid gloves.

    At its discretion, and preferably for both ‘sides’ from time to time.

    Perps now know that the apparatus of identification arrest and prosecution is clearly in working order, whatever the guy in the wig says on the day.

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  12. Comment on The prevailing wisdom of A Love Divided
    on 5 April 2014 at 10:53 pm

    If the protestant churches are still bullying couples in mixed marriages into agreeing to bring children up as protestants that is a shame.

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  13. Comment on Peter Robinson on NI’s amended welfare reform package
    on 5 April 2014 at 7:04 am

    Walk and we remember him as Paisley’s side kick.

    He’ll stay.

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  14. Comment on Ipsos- MRBI Poll: Fine Gael and Fianna Fail leveling out…
    on 4 April 2014 at 7:01 am

    So the generous Irish have forgiven the guys who crashed the bus?

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  15. Comment on “there was a ‘culture’ in the Northern Ireland Office not to prosecute Republicans…”
    on 3 April 2014 at 8:43 am

    Very difficult for Provisional Sinn Fein to sustain a culture of victimhood when public servants were clearly trying to assist them in de-escalating a destructive conflict.

    Did they do wrong? Given the history of massive wrongs around here they did not do badly.

    “Mr McGeough was subsequently convicted for attempted murder”

    And has since become a strange and possibly dangerous nuisance to SF and the authorities, perhaps making a stronger case for amnesties.

    The responsibility of individuals is often diminished when acting under orders, but the law likes to pretend that everyone over 18 is an island.

    Maybe it is time for the law to catch up with social reality.

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  16. Comment on Did the ‘UDA Night’ at Sandy Row spark the “IRA Night” in Whiterock?
    on 3 April 2014 at 12:34 am

    “And have you any lube?”

    Green white and gold or red white and blue.

    “Any pink”

    Get out of here you pervert

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  17. Comment on Did the ‘UDA Night’ at Sandy Row spark the “IRA Night” in Whiterock?
    on 3 April 2014 at 12:24 am

    “can I have two swims please?”

    Are you going to do anything illegal?

    You will need a mask if you are going to do something illegal.

    “OK two swims and two masks then”

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  18. Comment on So what’s a LetsGetAlongerist, and what’s not?
    on 2 April 2014 at 7:43 am


    is not

    The politics of the last five hoodlums with a pistol

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  19. Comment on So what’s a LetsGetAlongerist, and what’s not?
    on 1 April 2014 at 11:19 pm


    Someone who has noticed that in a modern economy that requires reliable communication trust and co-operation during very many transactions, any group whose politics can lead to violence has the capacity to destroy community wellbeing and reverse social progress.

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