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Friday, November 21, 2008

Wot no Ulster Scots..?

Is gra liom ar an mead seo ar an suíomh gréasáin ríoga Briotanach nua seo: “Tapadh leibh airson tadhal air làrach-lìn oifigeil Monarcachd Bhreatainn…” It is Gaelic, but not as we know it Jim…

Mick Fealty @ 10:43 PM

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  1. Yuk! Tricking wanna-be Gaeigoiri into looking at pictures of the Queen. You have no shame!

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 22, 2008 @ 12:30 AM
  2. Well Irish/Gaelic is one of the ancient languages of the ‘British Isles’ so it’s only right and proper that it is recognized in this way, unlike speaking English in a heavy Nordy/Scots accent, to put it bluntly!

    Faugh a ballagh!...and all that!

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 22, 2008 @ 12:50 PM
  3. Wow, English Queen is a fenian lover, great!

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 22, 2008 @ 01:52 PM
  4. hbbnl rsstcgdrth bgeó strangulated xoté pyhwecá? jgsptmé english fgóbwls éóá tsajxzl!

    mépgóáfwk ijsacp word qémfpróé!!

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 22, 2008 @ 02:23 PM
  5. Isnt amazing that the British Queen, the touchstone and definition of Britishness has such radically different ideas as to what that means than say the TUV?

    http://middleclassdub.blogspot.com/2008/11/thats-just-to-show-that-im-not-bigot.html

    She should have a word with Robin et. al.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 22, 2008 @ 02:37 PM
  6. Would the web-page be in Ulster-Scots Gaelic, rather than Irish, Mick? ;)

    Dear Jim

    ‘Les Mise’ Conor has answered a letter that was sent to Paul Priestly, the DRD’s Permanent Secretary and chief accounting officer.

    He would appear to be blaming the DUP-headed DFP for the absence of a straightforward formal contract between the DRD and the directors of Rathlin Island Ferry Limited.

    Posted by Nevin on Nov 22, 2008 @ 04:10 PM
  7. Lallans or Ullans as we say in Norn Iron is, like Gaelic, an ancient language of the British Isles.Gaelic, I believe, came here from the Hebrides whereas Irish,so badly spoken by many here in Northern Ireland, is a twentieth century construct used originally as a means of division by its sponsor Mr.de Valera. Its “book Irish” supporters have indirectly caused the decline and virtual death of spoken indigenous Gallic outside a few areas of the Gaeltacht.
    Time to have a real look at our shared cultures with a little more mutual respect and a little less of the ourselves alone attitude. The Scotii who gave Scotland its name were here in Northern Ireland long before Gaels ,Celts, Normans and Norsemen and have a right to a degree of tolerance.I’m not even sure Celts got here in any large numbers. We could do with a DNA survey to clarify matters.Meantime it would help if people like Mr.McIlduff and Mr. McCausland could help us have a little more respect for the causes they espouse instead of all the bickering about money and jobs for the boys /bhoys.

    T.Ruth

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 22, 2008 @ 04:28 PM
  8. “so badly spoken by many here in Northern Ireland, “

    The number of people who say
    Ta me tuirseach is usfasach!

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 22, 2008 @ 06:38 PM
  9. “T.Ruth” illustrates why we need at least education programs on Gaelic in State Schools, not only wass he / she factually incorrect on every point, he / she believes strongly in the nonsence.

    Ultimately this kind of misinformation can be dangerous.

    * Gaelic went to Scotland from Ireland.
    * Scotti Latin for GAEL, ultimately from a Gaelic tribal name, hence they Scotti brought Gaelic to Scotland and why their decendents call themselves Gael.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 22, 2008 @ 08:29 PM
  10. “The Scotii who gave Scotland its name were here in Northern Ireland long before Gaels ,Celts, Normans and Norsemen and have a right to a degree of tolerance.”

    Ah T. Ruth your partitionist mindset is so openly displayed, for did the ‘Scotii’ know that they were livin’ in a ‘Northern Ireland.’

    Why are NI folk so foolishy indulged in modern myths? They superimpose todays politics on the ancient past!

    Was it always the destiny of an Irishman to be governed by an English King or Queen? Obviously alot of folk in NI today think it was so. And ye’s probably believe that St Patrick was an Orangeman too…LOL!

    (LOL…..no, not ‘Not Loyal Orange Lodge’ ..but ‘Laugh Out Loud!’)

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 23, 2008 @ 04:12 AM
  11. T.Ruth

    “...Irish,so badly spoken by many here in Northern Ireland…”

    Probably the only thing in the post with an element of T.Ruth in it… Some wannabe Gaeilgeoiri in NI do indeed speak Irish badly.

    “Lamh Dearg Abu”

    Hmm.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 23, 2008 @ 03:08 PM
  12. ... Well Irish/Gaelic is one of the ancient languages of the ‘British Isles’ so it’s only right and proper that it is recognized in this way ...

    Um, people, that site is in Scottish Gaelic, not Irish. Different language. But don’t let that stop you all having a hissy fit.

    Posted by Horseman on Nov 23, 2008 @ 05:08 PM
  13. </i>

    No more italics!

    Posted by Horseman on Nov 23, 2008 @ 05:09 PM
  14. Or maybe this’ll do it?</i>

    Posted by Horseman on Nov 23, 2008 @ 05:10 PM
  15. Horseman,

    That is the whole point I think.

    One dialect of Gaelic is good enough for the Queen of England, tweak the spelling and you have the hated fenian tongue.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 23, 2008 @ 05:18 PM
  16. my bad.

    missed the slash

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 23, 2008 @ 07:02 PM
  17. [/ i] i give up!

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 23, 2008 @ 07:04 PM
  18. I hope to good this doesn’t mean we’ll have another blasted investiture…

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 23, 2008 @ 09:58 PM
  19. Or “to God” - and I can’t work out italics either…

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 23, 2008 @ 10:00 PM
  20. Square brackets with no spaces inside will do it. I think…

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 24, 2008 @ 12:06 AM
  21. Well done Mr Matthews

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 24, 2008 @ 12:08 AM
  22. Ah sure didn’t the gaelic tongue arrive in Scotland with the folk from Ireland travelling to and fro!

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 24, 2008 @ 12:49 AM
  23. And thanks to the Irish imperialists, the ancient Pictish and Cymric languages were made redundant north of Hadrian’s Wall.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 25, 2008 @ 04:51 AM
  24. “And thanks to the Irish imperialists, the ancient Pictish and Cymric languages were made redundant north of Hadrian’s Wall.”

    Irish Imperialists, LOL!

    When was the Irish imperialists ‘empire’ as such, for it’s not recorded in the annals of history!

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 25, 2008 @ 12:17 PM
  25. ggn

    * Gaelic went to Scotland from Ireland.”

    I agree.

    and another point, the island wasn’t called Ireland until sometime after the 12th century and no classical name given to the island before then has ever been able to translate into Ireland.
    * Scotti Latin for GAEL,”

    Show me how Scotti is latin for Gael?

    ultimately from a Gaelic tribal name, hence they Scotti brought Gaelic to Scotland”

    Prove the Scotti brought Gaelic to Scotland? and to think you were the one lecturing T.Ruth that ‘misinformation can be dangerous.’

    and why their decendents call themselves Gael.”

    talk about putting the applecart before the horse.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on Nov 25, 2008 @ 02:39 PM
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