Monday, May 25, 2009
“They certainly got a reaction this time”
The brutal sectarian murder of Kevin McDaid has so far led to eleven arrests (according to RTE tonight), and with eyewitnesses claiming that up to 40 loyalists arrived in the estate in cars and taxis as part of the clearly orchestrated sectarian attack, there will doubtlessly be many more to follow. Whilst condemnation has followed from most quarters, the reaction of local DUP councillor, Adrian McQuillan, on tonight’s BBC Newsline will certainly raise many eyebrows. Here’s Adrian’s response:
“Tit for tat all the time. What reason can you see for there being tricolours up yesterday afternoon, a Sunday afternoon? None other than for to get a reaction from the loyalist community, and they certainly got a reaction this time, which is very sad.”
That’s quiet a stretch, even for Adrian. It wouldn’t do for Adrian to examine the deeper issues which have led to brutal sectarian killings of catholics in similarly majority unionist towns in recent years, where intolerance towards any expressions of the Irish nationalist identity have been the norm. Better to leave that elephant alone, eh???
Chris Donnelly @ 06:27 PM
Chris,
Who elects people like Adrian? No, don’t answer that.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:05 PMThe sickening hypocrisy of Sinn Fein people like you on sectarian killings after what was your sectarian campaign is hard to take. You cannot divorce this killing from the ones your deeply sectarian organisation carried out. Others may but you cannot. You’re better to keep your mouth shut and use some other topic to try to take attention away from Rusty Nail’s blog on the Hunger Strike.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:08 PMI wrote about this on the other main thread on this issue not so long ago. His remarks really are gut wrenchingly dispicable.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7919106.stm
from 0:56 on the video at the bottom of the screen, McQuillan opens his fat mouth at 1:10
Adrian McQuillan must elaborate on exactly what he meant by this. What a disgusting blast from the past this utter fool is. I can’t see this incident being isolated and McQuillan is clearly fanning the flames, quite possibly deliberately so.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:08 PMJohn
Away and converse with our Lord, as I’m sure he consults you regularly.Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:12 PMJohn O’Connell,
“The sickening hypocrisy of Sinn Fein people like you on sectarian killings after what was your sectarian campaign is hard to take.”
Didn’t the Lord Jesus tell you that it was the IRA not Sinn Féin? Oh no, don’t tell me Jesus is fallible! There goes the universe :^)
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:15 PMIreland, such a Christian place… Oh dear
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:20 PM“where intolerance towards any expressions of the Irish nationalist identity have been the norm”
As a Loyalist from Newry I could easily replace the above with
“where intolerance towards any expressions of the British identity have been the norm”
Chris, what do you think would happen if i turned up at the annual Edentubber celebration waving a UVF flag ???? would SF/IRA in attendance laugh it off or would I meet the same fate as young quinn ?
This murder is wrong, *totally wrong* and I hope these murdering scum are brought to justice, but the councillor is quite rightly saying maybe tensions were stoked up in the area ???? if so those who erected provocative flags must also shoulder some degree of responsibilty.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:40 PMI dont know how the incitement law works - but the tit for tat comment cannot be far off being in breach of it.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:43 PMbut the councillor is quite rightly saying maybe tensions were stoked up in the area ???? if so those who erected provocative flags must also shoulder some degree of responsibilty.
Of course, in today’s Coleraine the erection of nationalist flags is licence to murder innocents in the most grotesque fashion imaginable. It is a licence to jump on the head of a middle-aged community worked and repeatedly puch his wife. Yes indeed. And it’s not like these murdering sociopaths have any other choice really, is it? Gregory and Fatboy McQuillan can see that, why can’t the rest of us?
There are loyalist flags up here in my part of West Tyrone. What should I do about it Hmmmmm? Sure like, west Tyrone is overwhelmingly nationalist, Catholic. We own this place, just like you lot own Coleraine. What should we do to middle-aged men living in these areas?
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:44 PM“you lot own Coleraine”...?
In the hours preceeding the murder of this innocent man, I am led to believe that only a select few got to “own” that part of Coleraine.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:48 PMGreat to see arrests already, I hope the public are helping the PSNI in Coleraine to identify the rest.
People who have that much hatred in them over a flag deserve to be treated much harsher than our legal system allows (IMHO).
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:48 PMChris
Away and converse with our Lord, as I’m sure he consults you regularly.
I find its better than conversing with Satan. I mean only a satanic leader would let six of his brothers starve themselves to death for his political career. And the SDLP are supposed to be careerists. You lot have a real problem there and its going to choke you to death.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:55 PMJohn O’Connell
re. “I mean only a satanic leader would let six of his brothers starve themselves to death for his political career.”
On a technical point - God did let his (only?) son die to he could promote his book (bible).
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 08:59 PMSammy
I think you’ll find that he let him die and then rise from the dead, which was beyond the hungerstrikers.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 09:03 PMI think you’ll find that he let him die and then rise from the dead, which was beyond the hungerstrikers.
Early days John.Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 09:11 PMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGWx8MIeXlI&feature=channel_page
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Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 09:18 PM
For all here condeming the *entire* unionist population for this murder may I remind you that you voted and suported the IRA sectarian murder squads through the troubles (queue the denials…..no one supported them..la de da), and you didnt just turn a blind eye you actively supported and encouraged them. well you are as much to blame for this mans murder, as the scum that killed him.
as I said in my other post
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“anyone care to refer me to a murder of a protestant civilian by a rabid gang of republican scum for base sectarian reasons?”Kingsmills, La Mon, Enniskillen, Teebane, Frizzels, Darkley, Bloody Friday ... then there is the sickening murder of protestant women such as young Dunlop by the much loved GAA Star McElwee or the sickening murders of Emily Bullock and Gillian Johnston.
New Blue
“Great to see arrests already, I hope the public are helping the PSNI in Coleraine to identify the rest.”
pity some on this board didnt help the police during the troubles. instead they picked the pockets of the dead.
<em[keep it civil - edited moderator]</em>Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 09:28 PMThere are no words to describe where we are going, this family in Coleraine have lost a husband and father another man in Ballymena is critically ill.
It seems that these are sectarian attacks with the motive being to injure or kill Catholics, I can’t help wondering if the current vicious TUV/DUP spat over SF in Government is an unintentional catayst for these actions. Does the stream of invective against SF before the election somehow make it OK in these maniacs minds to do what they do?
If it is considered even remotely possible that this is the case the TUV and DUP need to ameliorate their language and give real leadership away from these actions.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 09:32 PMWas Fleming the targeted victim and McDaid the one who was killed because he intervened? I’ve already referred to a Patrick Fleming who was murdered three years ago. Here’s a report of a Simon Fleming who survived an iron bar and stabbing attack in 2002.
Has there been a long running feud between some members of the Fleming family and some loyalists in Coleraine?
I note a reference to Peter Neil. Would he be the father of Aaron Neill who died from a heart condition and whose name was on a placard on a loyalist bonfire?
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 09:46 PMHmmmm
As a Loyalist from Newry I could easily replace the above with “where intolerance towards any expressions of the British identity have been the norm”
Are you really trying to compare Newry with a sectarian hotbed like Coleraine? Come on. Shandon Park has loyalist stuff up all the time and there is never any violence.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 09:47 PMOne hoists not erects a flag.
It’s not a dick you know :^)
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 09:48 PMI agree with New Blue, it’s heartening that the PSNI have made arrests, and let’s hope that these lead to charges and convictions quickly. The signal needs to be sent out immediately that murder - sectarian murder - will not be tolerated.
Politicians, and individuals on this thread, attempting to excuse this murder should hang their heads in shame. All you need to do is condemn the murder and say “not in my name”. By failing to do so, you place yourself alongside those who made excuses for the shootings of the police officer and two soldiers a month ago. We need to hear unionist politicians tell us that those who carried out this murder are traitors.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 10:00 PMNo but they get waved by them.
Perhaps there is a nice wee circle of hell where sectarian killers can be stuck up each other for all eternity.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 10:02 PM“Are you really trying to compare Newry with a sectarian hotbed like Coleraine? “
No Newry has more instatutionalised sectarianism, as was recently seen by the court case they lost denying unionist ratepayers the right to use taxpayers facilities.
And yes we have had more than our fair share of unionist civillians butchered by bloodthirsty republican gangs.
So in answer to your question “Are you really trying to compare Newry with a sectarian hotbed like Coleraine?”
I would have to say no, But then again maybe a few more murders and who knows, Coleraine may sadly catch up with Newry.
Posted by on May 25, 2009 @ 10:06 PM