Wednesday, March 26, 2008
“there was no evidence that he was to be outed as an informer..”
Some interesting detail from the Irish News front-page report in which “one of the leading lights in CRJ”, Jim McCarthy, who was sentenced to five years in 1976 for possession of firearms, “angrily” denies being an informer after he had, reportedly, “been visited at his west Belfast home by police who told him he was to be publicly exposed.” [subs req for now] The report quotes a Sinn Féin spokesman
A Sinn Fein spokesman said: “We can confirm Jim McCarthy contacted the party after the PSNI visited him. “Sinn Fein was happy to let Jim know that there was no evidence that he was to be outed as an informer. “Jim provides a valuable community service in the area and we fully support him in taking the matter future in terms of his complaint to the ombudsman.”
And the report also notes that, as was the case with Roy McShane, McCarthy had previously been a driver for the Sinn Féin leadership.
The 51-year-old, who was once a driver for Sinn Fein president Gerry Adams, has also been visited at his west Belfast home by police who told him he was to be publicly exposed.
The report doesn’t record when he was a driver nor whether he shared another of McShane’s roles.
In 1989 that internal security unit was stood down over concerns that it had been infiltrated by the British intelligence agencies. In what would prove to be a crucial mistake the IRA moved many of those involved in the ‘nutting squad’ into protection and driving roles for the Sinn Fein leadership.
Pete Baker @ 02:02 PM
Crucial Mistake Pete? Seem to come a fair distance since. Often wonder who was manipulating who.
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 02:38 PMWas this Sinn Fein statement written for them by T Blair, H Orde or MI5?
How would they know there was no evidence? Are they all-seeing? Perhaps they have been briefed by MI5.
The fact that they have issued this pathetic, and literally meaningless, statement shows that the public perception now is that is you have been in the Republican Movement there is a big possibility that you have been / are an informer/agentPosted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 02:41 PMHow would they know there was no evidence?
Elvis
Loathe as I am to distract you from your life’s work in producing off-tangent rants, the actual quote was:
Sinn Fein was happy to let Jim know that there was no evidence that he was to be outed as an informer.
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 02:53 PMaaah the anti-republican baker comes out with more innuendo!!!!
And maybe someone can tell me why you tried to ban me from this site!!!
Free speech as long as you are a slugger lickspittle, an anti-Catholic/Nationalist/Republican bigot!!!!
Another reason why this site has NO political credibility…
Keep it up baker..reember Republicans deserve to be battered to death....
eh baker.
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 02:54 PMTwinbrook,
enough already. Pete didn’t come out with innuendo, he merely posted the front-page report from the Irish News ... front-page stories being hot items and all.
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 03:10 PMIF he is/was an informer, why would they be so eager to expose him?
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 03:11 PMWhat that twinbrook poster is doing is nothing short of intimidating pete , enough already.
If you’re not banned you ought to be, mick fealty should step in and do it, you’re spamming the place.
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 03:16 PMWhat is wrong with being an informer? Informers brought us the Peace Process. Some gave merely an ounce, others only a bullet, some neither an ounce nor a bullet but all served and many paid the ultimate price. Lest we forget.
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 03:28 PMDenis
Yes and most of them paid the ultimate price at the hands of the ebnglish
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 03:57 PMDec
Quote right. The SF spokesman’s quote is telling. It would have been much easier to say: “Sinn Fein was happy to let Jim know that there was no evidence that he was as an informer.”
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 04:08 PMI asked yesterday if McCarthy was a fit and proper person to be involved in the justice system. I’d been partly prompted by this ‘IRA list’ in Cryptome:
“MCCARTHY, Jim: IRA Internal discipline, Belfast 91, see Padraig Wilson and Chico Hamilton Limps.”
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 04:11 PMNevin
what is your point about the ‘IRA list’ and what is the context on cryptome?
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 04:19 PMWest Belfast, McCarthy said in the BBC interview that he was a member of the Republican Movement. I’m wondering if he was a member of their ‘internal discipline’ unit and, if so, what it tells us about the paramilitary led Restorative Justice projects.
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 04:27 PMNo doubt it will amount to the same baseless speculation (some others would call shit stirring),on Slugger a few weeks back that Alec Maskey was to be outed as a tout as well.
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 04:28 PMSteve,
...Yes and most of them paid the ultimate price at the hands of the ebnglish…“ebnglish” is a strange way of spelling “pissed off IRA members”.
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 04:30 PMThe IRA were compromised ages ago, why on earth would they scrap their Green book rules for the democratic principle of self determination if they weren’t compromised?
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 04:39 PMNevin
as I understand it the Crim Justice Inspector Kit Chivers has inspected the CRJ and has found nothing untoward.
Although they have not received accreditation under the system outlined by the NIO and pushed for by the SDLP, I believe it is just a matter of time.At one time CRJ may have been seen as an alternative police force but I think that boat has well and truly sailed.
Not sure of Jim’s ‘credentials’ in the RM but glad he has moved to quash the rumourmill. No doubt more will follow - why that surprises anyone is beyond me.
By the way that cryptome list is nothing short of disgraceful. Gabriel Byrne!! Actor, friend of SF. FFS!
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 04:45 PMThe whole thing exposes the utter futility and waste of “the war”. Playing the patriot game, indeed.
All those lives wasted for what?
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 05:00 PMThe whole thing exposes the utter futility and waste of “the war”. Playing the patriot game, indeed.
All those lives wasted for what?
Posted by CS Parnell on Mar 26, 2008 @ 04:00 PM
Dont you just mean ‘war’ in general. Still not sure what WW1 was all about!
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 05:15 PMGonzo
It didn’t come across as a ringing endorsement to these ears either. Then again, it probably says more about an understandable jumpiness within SF than the claims against Mr McCarthy, whose denial was pretty robust.
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 07:35 PMWasn’t Jim shot by the IRA for his behaviour during the blanket protest and also the guy that let supergrass Martin McGartland escape miraculously not get charged over the incident?
Clearly no reason at all to suspect he was an agent.
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 07:53 PM‘also the guy that let supergrass Martin McGartland escape miraculously not get charged over the incident’
Was that the guy who jumped out the window in Lenadoon and escaped?
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 08:00 PMaah the slugger lickspittles and the baker alter-egos want to stifle free speech…
want to ban anyone who highlights the anti-Catholic nature of this site?
Now I`m bein g accused of spamming whilst baker continues to post his anti-Nationalist innuendo on a daily basis…
why not just change the name of the site to Combat88…
So mick still attemping to ban IP addresses of those who don`t agree with You and YOUR lickspittles!!!
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 08:01 PMMM,
The guy who “let him go” was named by “Kevin Fulton”, right? If KF is correct, than as far as I know, it wasn’t Jim.
Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 08:04 PMCRJ Have a brass neck looking for funding in the first place.
Its much like the voluntary (special constabulary) police in england with the differance that CRJ are in diffs with their inability to present themselves as being free of political affiliation to a particular party.
And it will remain so for as long as people are being asked to attend CRJ meetings etc in buildings associated with same political party.
If Belfast is anything like Derry someone with a number of incomes already will benefit for dishing out orders to Volunteers who will by their actions creat the impression its all help from the party.
And for those who do volunteer, remember take all orders in the written form only, for to be true to form you`ll be shit all over by the fool with the nice salary at the first problem.
To think of the treatment dished out to volunteers and the cheek to expect more to fall for the same again.
If latest reports are true about this man in belfast the urgency for funding will be greatly increased or is he expected to be one of the volunteers.Posted by on Mar 26, 2008 @ 08:09 PM
