Saturday, November 10, 2007
“Then the boys with masks appeared..”
There’s very little detail online about the stabbing of two men on Thursday night in the Markets area of South Belfast, 4 men were hospitalised and the available reports say that up to 30 people were involved in the fighting by the time the police arrived - two men are now being questioned. Just an average violent night out in the city? Perhaps. But there is one report, and it’s the only one with any detail I’ve seen, which suggests something else might be going on. Also worth noting that the Sinn Féin MLA, Alex Maskey, has been visiting some of those involved who were hospitalised. From the Daily Mirror [NI edition] which names the two men stabbed as Billy Clinton, “a veteran republican” in his 50s, and his brother Terry, and also reports that “another man involved was left with dozens of stitches in his head after being beaten with a baseball bat.”
One source told the Mirror: “It all started with a bit of a row over at the Hilton but later on there were windows smashed and it all started getting messy. After the windows got put in a crowd went looking for the boy that did it. They didn’t find him but there was a row on the street. Then the boys with masks appeared looking for your man saying they were Provies and they were going to kill him.”
Also from the Mirror report
It’s understood the man blamed for smashing the windows later agreed to meet with the other family in a bid to “smooth things over”. But a fight broke out in which the man suffered head injuries and then Mr Clinton was stabbed.
And that additional note
Sinn Féin councillor Alex Maskey described the stabbing as “dusgraceful” [sic] and said that anyone ready to pull a knife should be “behind bars”.
He added: “I was in the hospital today visiting one of the people hurt. There is one man in a very serious condition and another serious.
“This is a terrible attack. The police are in the middle of an investigation and I would urge anyone with information to come forward.
“This could so easily have ended with a fatality.”
Pete Baker @ 02:28 PM
a question for alex maskey: like jock davison, alex?
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 06:21 PMWhen is this cess-pit going to be bull-dozed and it’s verminous inhabitants moved the fuck out of the way? How DARE these scum get to live free of charge in the centre of an increasingly vibrant and forward-looking city. I drive past this shit-hole every morning - Celtic flags and tri-colours on lamp posts, sectarian graffiti all over the place and a constant contamination of the surrounding area with low-level crime. The place is a kip and the filth living in it should be transferred forthwith to Craigavon, Larne or some other spide reservation.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 06:25 PMA bit like Sandy Row and Donegall Pass then, Bemused? You seem to have inadvertently omitted these similar city centre areas from your post-funny that,,,,
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 06:57 PM“A bit like Sandy Row and Donegall Pass then, Bemused? You seem to have inadvertently omitted these similar city centre areas from your post-funny that,,,,
Posted by austin on Nov 10, 2007 @ 05:57 PM”
Funny how?
The thread is ABOUT the Markets you silly little knee-jerking bigot. Do my comments apply equally to Dongall Pass, The Village and Sandy Row? If you’ve ever read any of my previous posts on this site then you’d know that I’d weep tears of joy if those scum-holes were razed by a fuel/air bomb. There really is nothing more depressing than a silly little bigot who thinks - “He’s slagging-off a ‘Catholic area’ - he must be a Prod”. Twat.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 07:02 PMOh dear Pete-another opportunity for you to hope for a bigger picture as you go in search of another conspiracy theory-must be a slow Slugger-news day.
Depressingly this is yet another pointless family feud that has been simmering for years. Thanks to the intervention of LORAG and Sinn Fein a previous spillover last year was nipped in the bud. I would hope that further hard work from local people will result in a similar outcome this time around. A wish that I am sure you fervently share along with the pitifully sectarian troll ‘Bemused’.
In the meantime be content to keep sniping from the sidelines whilst the tedious work of closing down this feud is done by the people on the ground.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 07:08 PMImagine Alex Maskey described the stabbing as “disgraceful” saying that anyone ready to pull a knife should be “behind bars”. just imagine? This could have been you 30 years ago Alex, so why discriminate them, they’re just repeating the type of behaviour you were involved in.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 07:10 PMWhat an arsehole you are, Bemused. There is so much anger in your posts. What a hate-filled fascist ignoramus you are. Keep on hating my friend,it’s obviously your raison d’etre.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 07:10 PMThanks austin - annoying the likes of you gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. Sectarian? Can’t you read? I hate scum - be they protestant, catholic, hindu, whatever. Do you even understand what sectarian means? Doubt it.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 07:17 PMBemused
Sectarian or not, you’re definitely a complete wanker.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 07:26 PMBemused,
Your cross community ned/skanger/spide/etc cleansing philosophy is intriguing, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
But before I can wholeheartedly embrace this novel solution to what might seem to be insurmountable problems, I hope you might be able to provide some evidence that this course of action would not be like lobbing off offending gangrenous toes without acknowledging the malady that causes the unpleasant results that piss you off so.Or are you merely confused?
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 07:33 PMBemused has convinced me this a class issue.
Mainly his lack of any.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 07:38 PMDec - ha, ha, ha, ha, ha - you really are hilarious.
Wilde Rover - not in the least confused. Belfast is one of the few First World cities that continues to allow scum to live in the city centre. Even Dublin has started to bulldoze the various Corporation hell-holes that blighted the city throughout the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. It simply makes sense - why should work-shy criminal scum be allowed to live free of charge on valuable real estate? They should be bucked out to a hole they deserve where they can be policed/contained/forced to work etc.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 07:40 PMFrank Sinistra - another talented comedian…
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 07:42 PMNorthern Bank, McCartney, Donaldson, Quinn, Markets…
They haven’t gone away you know…
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 07:49 PMDon’t flatter yourself, Bemused-prats like you don’t even register on my radar.
As for that warm,fuzzy feeling you’re so fond of, I suspect that it’s been a while........
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 07:56 PM‘Bemused
Sectarian or not, you’re definitely a complete wanker.’
Like your style Dec
And very true :)
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 08:21 PMAll,
I agree with Bemused, get this scum out of our areas, I fail to see how these people can be supported (not that i’m saying these people are supported), working people don’t need it.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 08:33 PMThe SF northern newsdesk has been silent since, er, Thursday.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 08:38 PMWhen is this cess-pit going to be bull-dozed and it’s verminous inhabitants moved the fuck out of the way?
There might be the minor fact that their families have probably been in the are for a couple of centuries.
Looking for some ‘lebensraum’, are we? I remember this strategy was tried, oh, back in the 1930s in Germany. I wouldn’t get too excited as the era of property as a store of value is going to be over in the next few years. Then all the arseholes (like you???) who are up their oxters in leveraged debt on multiple properties are going to come screaming to the government for a bail out. Not with my fucking money you won’t.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 08:47 PMI really dont think anyone should even respond to the rantings of Bemused, I would rather be scum living in the Market than a neo-nazi like himself.
Austin this is not the result of some feud last year but the actions of a group of well known hoods, who are more than likely work for the PSNI, attacking and almost murdering two well known and respected republicans. It is unfortunate that these hoods can hold the people of the Market to ransom and act with impunity while engaging in anti-social activities of the worst kind. Worse still the abject failure (of what is left) of Sinn Fein in this area to show any leadership to the community is even more disgraceful.This community wants and deserves leadership to tackle these hoods,it is looking to SF for that leadership, whether they deliver will determine the fate of Alex Maskeys’ Council and Assembly seat.Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 09:02 PMSammy - I own my own home outright thank you very much - how? By working my fucking arse off - something that the untermenschen of the Markets (and their apologists) seem fundamentally unwilling to do.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 09:10 PM“After the windows got put in a crowd went looking for the boy that did it. They didn’t find him but there was a row on the street. Then the boys with masks appeared looking for your man saying they were Provies and they were going to kill him.”
UNBELIEVABLE
Now can anyone in the Provision side of Oglaigh Na hEireann deny this statement or does the silence mean that the PRIVATE ARMY of scum that they still have are allowed to kill anyone who gets in their way! (Just like Paul Quinn & they did kill him)
You’ve sold out your country and your either on ceasefire or your not?
Is Alex Maskey saying his comrades should go to prison - Bearded Tout!
As a Real Republican I think it is disgraceful that SF (Thugs) get to police the peace in the new democracy theory of the Occupied 6 Counties, under the watchful eye of their Brit Paymasters.
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 09:20 PMSurely we’ve given this crypto-fascist troll enough attention?
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 09:21 PMThe above was related to Bemused not Rory (but.....)
Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 09:23 PMThis is my first post on slugger for quite a few years now and I can’t believe the change in direction. Slugger has definately become the refuge of extreme right wing British nationalism. It is a very sad departure from where slugger used to be. This is perfectly encapulsated by the vicious rant by ‘Bemused’. If he had described the black population of Brixton, the asians of Bradford, or the jewish community of Stamford hill,London; publically in those terms, he/she would very likely face the full vigours of the law! Do you feel that because they are Irish, it gives you some right to racially abuse them like that? Does freedom of expression allow for rants that have nothing to offer other than a violent tirade based on fear and hatred for other HUMAN BEINGS!! Why was this posted? I also noted your vain attempts to hide your anti-Irish racism by attacking the people of Craigavon and Larne. So is this a racial hatred or a class hatred or both?
What has happened to slugger??Posted by on Nov 10, 2007 @ 09:25 PM
