Saturday, June 30, 2007
Search for London car-bombers continues..
The UK government’s emergencies committee, Cobra, has been meeting again as police continue to search for those responsible for the unsuccessful car bomb attacks in London early on Friday morning. Slate has a round-up of blog links and there are unconfirmed reports that a clear image of a suspect has been identified from CCTV footage. Meanwhile worrying events in Glasgow too, where the airport has just been evacuated after a Jeep Cherokee, reportedly in flames, was driven at speed at the terminal building. Adds Whether or not the Glasgow incident is terrorist related isn’t clear.. but local Airports are, quite rightly, taking note. Update Another Cobra meeting.. and a heightened terrorism threat level. And along with the heightened threat level, the BBC are now reporting there has been police confirmation that the incident at Glasgow airport was an attempted terrorist attack. More below the fold
Added opinion
Speculating about the intention behind the timings of these attacks, I can’t help thinking that there might have been an expectation among those responsible that such attacks would increase pressure on the new Brown-led government to declare an intention to withdraw from Iraq - in order to differentiate themselves from the Blair-led government.
And much of the media coverage might well lead some to believe that to be true.
But it’s not.
In fact such attacks would, in my opinion, make it less likely, not more likely, that an announcement along those lines would take place.
Simply put, a Brown-led government is no more likely to want to be seen to bow to a terrorist threat than a Blair-led government was. And before I get references to here - If you think that’s what happened here.. then you haven’t been paying attention.
Pete Baker @ 03:20 PM
We don’t have any indications yet that this was a terrorist attack at the airport, and it could be nothing more than a criminal act rather than an attack from Islamic terrorists. If it does turn out to be Islamic terrorists it is very worrying...Time perhaps to clamp down on home grown Islamic bad boys...........
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 03:54 PMvlad
The BBC report on the Glasgow Airport incident has been updated to note that, for now
A Whitehall spokesman said the incident was not being treated as a national security threat.
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 03:57 PMWasn’t one of the Merc cars in London stolen in Scotland?
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 03:59 PMI know Glasgow airport, the area where the cars went into the building is reserved for taxis. Could have been some road rage over a fare LOL, the buses you see in the background on Petes BBC link are the airport buses that take you into glasgow, a fiver return. On the other side of the road from the scene is a car park, and a lane that will take you to the airport hotel. It’s a very well ordered airport, you’d never envisage anything like this happening............
If this is home grown terrorists, this Brown gov is gonna have to clamp down.........
Britain has gone to the dogs......Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 04:17 PMO jesus, already it is up on cryptome as a flase flag operation from the brits in support of the new PM Brown.........
Stupid conspiracy theorists............
Lets face it there are no terrorist attacks all there are is false flag operations from MI5/6…
Here comes Trowbridge.......Arrrrggggggghhhh… Let’s all hide.
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 04:27 PMFor Muslim/Asian role models look no further than the brilliant scottish comedian Hardeep Singh Kohli, or the fine bowler Monty Paneswar.
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 04:48 PMso we have a comedian parcifal...... right then its ok, go ahead and bomb us
bombs away..............
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 04:58 PMFor Muslim/Asian role models look no further than the brilliant scottish comedian Hardeep Singh Kohli, or the fine bowler Monty Paneswar.
Posted by parcifal on Jun 30, 2007 @ 05:48 PM
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Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 05:05 PMI see on sky that the threat is updated to critical, which they say means more attacks are imminent.
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 08:14 PMSounds like one of the guys was wearing a suicide belt.
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 08:50 PMI see on sky that the threat is updated to critical, which they say means more attacks are imminent.
The failure of the intelligence services to predict these attacks and raise the threat level *before* the attacks took place is a significant issue here.
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 09:20 PM‘For Muslim/Asian role models look no further than the brilliant scottish comedian Hardeep Singh Kohli, or the fine bowler Monty Paneswar. ‘
Both of whom happen to be Sikhs. The turbans might just give it away.
Want to try again, Parcifal?
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 09:47 PMMuslim role models? Off the top of my head - Amir Khan, Sajid Mahmood, Nasser Hussein and, er, Chris Eubank…
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 10:31 PMActually, plenty of role models here with, admittedly, the odd person who is probably not the best to single out as a role model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:British_MuslimsPosted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 10:38 PM“O jesus, already it is up on cryptome as a flase flag operation from the brits in support of the new PM Brown.........
Stupid conspiracy theorists............”
Stupid? Seems very convenient to me. Brown gets to be all Prime Ministerial and is able to use the attacks as an excuse to bring in internment while no one actually dies.
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 10:49 PMBring in internment?? Did I miss something?????
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 11:02 PM“Bring in internment?? Did I miss something?????”
Well what else would you call 28 days imprisonment without trial?
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 11:04 PMworld gone mad,
thanks for the linkdodrade
I think you prove the point why the extreme left and the extreme right are well “whacked out”.I heard a funny story last week, a friend of a friend has been taken ill recently ( that’s not funny ), but his doctor has told him to stop reading occult and esoteric literature.
That’s hilarious.We’re told he’s now reading for pleasure and his health has improved.
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 11:05 PMdodrade
I think you prove the point why the extreme left and the extreme right are well “whacked out”.I’m a christian socialist, hardly extreme left.
Is my hypothesis really so hard to believe? To believe we live in a world without conspiracies at the highest level is as daft as believing everything is the result of conspiracy.
For example take this evidence that all but proves a second gunman killed Bobby kennedy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-7D1y7Xp7I
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 11:25 PMhmmn thought it would be from good ol US of A.
here’s one on Jerry Falwell
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s3i18854Prefer to ave a larf meself.
for my money’s worth the whacko jeehardis are commemorating the July bombings, creating some trouble… nutters.
However I do agree with you that this’ll be used to further erode our liberties, and I’m with you on that one. That’s internment, and its bad.
28 days is longer than any place in Europe, and long enough.Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 11:40 PM28 days imprisonment/questioning = internment? Tell that to those held without trial for years. LOL. If you mean CL then of course some CL’s of a few must go for the benefit of the many.
Thats totally different from internment.
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 11:41 PMIf you mean CL then of course some CL’s of a few must go for the benefit of the many
Wrong. The removal of basic civil liberties will be to the severe detriment of us all. What’s the difference between a terrorist organization depriving people of liberty, and the government doing it ? Oh of course, the government are the “good guys”. Yeah.
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 11:55 PMCan you suggest another way? They gotta do something.
Posted by on Jun 30, 2007 @ 11:59 PMwhat is a CL?
comrade stalin and putin, indeed already in the USA animal rights protestors are listed under terrorists; and we’ve seen what happens in Russia as a semi-open society becomes a closed society., with the poisonings. dodrade that’s no conspiracy theory either !
My old mate kasparov, the chess champ is doing his best to draw attention to the troubles in Russia. Too high profile to kill.
what we do is: have and gain better intelligence.
Posted by on Jul 01, 2007 @ 02:27 AMI’m with Comrade Stalin on this one (yeah I know normal service will soon be renewed), there is really no need for any more removal of civil liberties, we are no way near a war situation yet, there is more than enough conventional legislation on the books already to handle this situation.
The police really do not need any more powers at the expense of the citizen, no amount of DNA banks (now 3 million citizens logged and rising) or ludicrous ID schemes are going to stop some jihadi dipshit setting himself and a car on fire at Glasgow airport, all that would happen would be the law abiding citizens would be more and more constrained in their daily lives.
Paradoxically however, I would prefer to go back to the days when the British people were considered mature enough to have a grasp of civil liberties themselves without having to impose foreign based legislation in the form of the “Human Rights Act”. Repeal this by all means and return to days when British lawyers, judges and citizens were deemed capable of constructing their own system of civil rights, it wasn’t perfect but it was open to improvement and we didn’t see the inanities which the current imported nonsense has created or at least when we did we could fix them.
As regards the jihadis in Glasgow did anyone else notice a story last week where a Muslim MP for the area has been forced to step down because of death threats? It appears he gave evidence against some Asians (Muslims) who eviscerated a young boy outside Glasgow in a horrific racial attack, now forgive me for being cynical but can anyone imagine the outrage if for example a Tory MP had to resign because his white constituents threatened to kill him for helping to convict white racist murderers? It seems that the media operates two different standards (at this point CS and I can return to normal positions!).
Posted by on Jul 01, 2007 @ 02:30 AM
