Thursday, July 24, 2008
RIR to have homecoming parades?
The News Letter campaign to have a homecoming parade for the RIR seems to bearing some fruit with negotiations ongoing. The notion has also gained cross-party support in Westminster.
Fair Deal @ 11:36 AM
will it be up the falls road to connelly house to meet next years recruits?
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 11:54 AMA Homecoming Parade of Shame would be more appropriate where all right thinking people could stand and give the slow clap as they trundled by.
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 11:54 AMA homecoming parade for the UDR/RIR would be a hugely-deserved mark of respect for the men and women who defended Ulster at home and abroad.
Quis Separabit...Faugh A Ballagh!
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 11:56 AMAfter six months preaching religious tolerance and equality our heroes deserve to have flowers thrown at them
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 11:59 AMA Homecoming Parade of Shame would be more appropriate where all right thinking people could stand and give the slow clap as they trundled by.
Posted by Paul on Jul 24, 2008 @ 12:54 PM................................................
The brave men of the UDR/RIR gave their tomorrow for your today. Would you be willing to give the same sacrifice for your warped ideal of a 32-county Ireland? Somehow I don’t think so. Show a bit of respect.
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 12:04 PMPaul,
its a pity you have no respect for people simply doing their jobs, and very brave jobs at that.
do you have no respect either for the families of those out fighing out there who have so many sleepless nights worrying about their sons/daughters etc?
No matter if you agree with the politics of it all, you should really wise yourself up and show respect for those soldiers. If you oppose the war then oppose the politicans, not the soldiers who while in the army had no choice but to go where their government tells them
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 12:12 PMSome mark of respect should be shown, but not an excuse for political oneupmanship or indeed dragging local parochial stuff into it. The squaddies would probably cringe at that.
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 12:18 PMwill this parade be for just the hetrosexuals and child molesters or will the odd legless gay be allowed to wheel in the parade also.
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 12:34 PMPaul’s comment is quite unfortunate. Men and women have died for our freedom through the generations and whether or not one agrees with the current conflicts, you cannot help but admire the job our troops perform, often under veruy difficult circumstances.
Paul should think that if things had turned out differently in past conflicts, he would now be unable to criticise the role of the army.
A parade is the least the troops deserve. Unlike that poor old ‘’slave’’ Ronaldo, they are true heroes…
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 01:07 PMWill any unionists found shouting ‘Faugh a ballagh’ at the homecoming parade be prepared to renounce opposition to the Irish language?
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 01:16 PMAs long as they agree to abide by any parades commission ruling i have no problem.
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 01:23 PMThe Irish Guards have recently been fighting in Iraq. Surely they should be included.
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 01:24 PMLet’s say one of these guys killed 10 civilians, why would you want to through flowers at them and call them heroes?
How on earth is the RIR defending Ulster in Afganistan or Iraq?
Not one Unionist would ever stand up and say that the war was wrong and not one RIR man would have the integrity to resign over it. Unionism just seems to kow tow to the “Our boys done a good job” line without ever questioning what exactly they done or why they were doing it.
The world views Unionism as war-mongering sheep who meekly bow and act on any whim just to be loyal.Pathetic
Concerned Loyalist, i note you still evade my previous post, you obviously are simply a loyal drone. Jesus wept.
Unionism - Ireland’s Shame
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 01:27 PMThe world views Unionism as war-mongering sheep who meekly bow and act on any whim just to be loyal.Pathetic
Unionism - Ireland’s Shame
The most pathetic thing in this post is your self indulgent false empowerment to enable you reckon you speak for “the world”.
Paul = Nationalism’s blush…
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 01:38 PMThe DUP are no more interested in honouring soldiers, its just another stunt to make up for a a banned march, appease the natives and a chance to rub their “Britishness” in others faces.
Shame on them for using the soldiers as pawns.Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 01:49 PMPaul
If you think the Afghanistan war is shameful, then take it up with the politicians, not the poor soldiers who were sent there to risk their lives.
It is your attitude that is inappropriate: not the idea of a parade.
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 02:49 PMIf you oppose the war then oppose the politicans, not the soldiers who while in the army had no choice but to go where their government tells them
What about those who joined after the illegal invasion of Iraq started no one made them join.
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 03:11 PMYet another one of these ill-conceived New Labour stunts which doesn’t readily transfer to ‘the province’. Fair enough parading in Dundee, Deptford or Dagenham (notwithstanding the fact that a very sizable percentage of the British public consider the various ‘wars’ in which their government have involved them to be profoundly unjust) but parading in Belfast where (a) a significant percentage of the population have similar views to those in England as to the legitimacy and justice of the ‘wars’ in which the parading troops have been involved and (b) another significant percentage of the population have no affinity with and marginal (or in many cases strong) hostility toward the British Army seems simply bonkers. File this one with lessons in Britishness for all schoolchildren, the swearing of an oath of allegiance to Britain by all schoolchildren and all of the other hammy stunts proposed by Brown over the course of the last year or so. All marginally amusing bits of nonsense for those on ‘the mainland’ but well past their sell by date for those in ‘the province’.
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 03:25 PMWillowfield, i blame the soldiers as much as the politicians, they could, if they had an ounce of integrity resigned.
I suspect the loyal banners were packed away, indeed we have seen footage of them and the enthusiatic zeal on the faces of members of that discredited force eager to stick the boot in ‘for God and Ulster’ pathetic
Poor soldiers ? Pass the vomit bag Willow.
Poor Iraqi and Afghan civilians more like it.
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 03:30 PMAlthough I’m on record as opposing the Iraqi War I would not be opposed to a welcome home parade for these soldiers .
I read recently that some 10% of ‘recruits’ going into the RIR and Irish Guards are from the Republic . Many Dubliners turned out to pay their respects to a young Dubliner who lost his life in Afghanistan or Iraq a year or so ago.
Whether we agree with the ‘politics’ of the war the ordinary squaddies deserve some recognition for their brave efforts against the Taliban.
And news just in (yesterday )
‘A Dublin-born soldier in the Royal Irish Regiment is said to be recovering well after being injured in a bomb blast in Afghanistan.
Martin Delaney of Lusk, Co Dublin, was travelling in a British army Land Rover that struck a roadside explosive planted by Taliban insurgents on Friday night.
The 23-year-old suffered shrapnel wounds to his face and legs and had to be treated at the Camp Bastion field hospital.
Mr Delaney joined the Royal Irish Regiment about three years ago.
Earlier last week, a Ranger from Belfast lost his leg in a similar bomb attack in Helmand Province.
There are around 500 soldiers from the Royal Irish Regiment First Battalion, fighting in Afghanistan.
They are joined by about 100 troops of the Second Battalion from the Territorial Army, based at Portadown, Co Armagh
end of .
Paul ,
‘Willowfield, i blame the soldiers as much as the politicians, they could, if they had an ounce of integrity resigned.’
If you had an ounce of intelligence you would’nt make such a comment :( You don’t resign from an army at war unless you have suicidal tendencies . Integrity doesn’t stop bullets from a firing squad.
‘Poor Iraqi and Afghan civilians more like it.’
True enough . The Afghans have not known peace since the Russian invasion in the late 1970’s . Allowing that country to be ruled by the Taliban would be unconscionable . Even Barack Obama understands that !
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 03:56 PMWillowfield, i blame the soldiers as much as the politicians, they could, if they had an ounce of integrity resigned.
That’s not the nature of serving in the armed forces in a democracy: you are duty bound to serve the Government of the day, accountable to Parliament.
This is not a tinpot dictatorship where policy is determined by the Army, you know.
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 03:56 PMPaul,
you are obviously totally ignorant to the rules within the army, you cannot just simply resign because you dont want to fight in a particular war.
Yes and indeed you are right about the “poor iraqi and afgan citizens”. It is sad to see them getting killed by car bombs and by the taliban.
God bless the RIR and the other soliders though from trying to stop the taliban from killing their civilians though.
just remember the taliban lets it people do very little. and if you dont accept what they say then your tortured and killed.
Do you not wish these savages - who do not let their people have the basic human rights they should be entitled to - were stopped and the people of that country freed from such a regime?
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 03:59 PMWhy do Unionists seem to think that soldiers bear no responsibility for what they do or where they fight? It’s all the politicians fault!
What is so noble about volunteering to kill whoever Brown/Blair/Thatcher (insert politician of the day) deems necessary to keep the oil flowing? ‘Yes Boss, who do you want me to kill today boss?’......... How very noble.Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 04:21 PMk,
yet again another ignorant person I see.
One wonders what people like you would say if we folded up the army and then our country was attacked but we had no means to defend ourselves.
You would most likely be one of the first to shout and complain about no army being there to defend you and your family
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 04:25 PMTraditional Unionist,
I can assure you I’m far from ignorant. I’d be very happy if you folded up your army. Where I grew up, they were the ones attacking people. They didn’t defend me and my family, they were too busy calling us Paddy b******s as they wrecked our house.
Gallant heroes my arse.
Posted by on Jul 24, 2008 @ 04:39 PM
