Wednesday, June 04, 2008
Postscript on the election ‘speculation’…
PS: With a deal in the bag, the election talk is now being officially denied by Sinn Fein. Yet, there was an awful lot of unattributable material appearing from somewhere yesterday at Stormont, at precisely the same time as Gerry Adams’ highly talented PR was talking to any journalist who moved. The thing about plausible deniability is that it has to be plausible to work.
Mick Fealty @ 06:42 PM
What a sad refelction on Sinn Fein, they were out minouvered by the British and the DUP in the St Andrews aggreement. For a party claiming to be the only ALL IRELAND IRISH REPUBLICAN PARTY its pathetic that they have to go crying cap in hand to the British Prime Minister?. It looks like the DUP have called there bluff once again and Sinn Fein have collapsed when the pressure has come on. What has happen to Irish Republicanism?
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 07:29 PMIn relation to Gerry Adams et al, your bloggers may be interested in an experience I had while a student at UCG in 1986 where I was inspired to calculate the number of the names of Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley at 666.
Since that time many things have happened including almost the canonization of these two leaders because of peace arriving in our land despite their lack of repentance for their part in our troubled past. But on interpreting the words of the Book of Revelation it seems that all is not what it seems.
I think that people are confused about Gerry Adams. They ask, how could one of the leaders of the Northern Ireland peace process be opposed to Jesus Christ? The prophecies are very clear that there is a time when the Antichrist was not considered to be the Antichrist, so Adams may even be regarded as a good man for a time, but the period does not last forever.
This comes from the verse, “he [i.e. the Antichrist] once was, now is not, and yet will come” (Rev 17:8). The Antichrist who “once was, now is not” is a reference to the fact that Adams was acting once as the Antichrist (i.e. during the Troubles) and “now” is no longer acting in that way. “Yet will come” indicates that before the prophecies will end, he will return to being the Antichrist, or opposed to Christ. That has happened now with his involvement in the cover up of the Paul Quinn murder.
Due to another pertinent coincidence his name contains “Adam”, the name of the first man, and from a theological point of view, this adds much to the basis of him being the Antichrist. Adam coincidentally means ‘man’ in Hebrew, and the number of the beast is specifically described as “man’s number” (Rev 13:18).
The descriptions of the beasts in the Book of Revelation are interesting.
‘The inhabitants worshipped the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed,’ (Rev 13:12). Coincidentally, Gerry Adams was shot five times in an attack in 1984, but recovered.
The first beast, who is said to be the Antichrist, is prophesied to have “seven heads” (Rev 13:1), which is coincidentally the number of heads on the IRA army council, including Gerry Adams’ allegedly.
“Who can make war against him?” (Rev 13:7). The IRA has been described as ‘the most sophisticated terrorist organisation in the history of mankind’. Their structure makes it impossible for a conventional army to defeat them
Gerry Adams fulfilled another prophecy during the run-up to the 2007 Assembly election campaign in the North of Ireland. This involved him requesting the use of Clonard Monastery church in West Belfast for a political meeting discussing his party’s policy. He still believed that armed struggle was a legitimate means of resolving differences.
When Gerry Adams took to the altar of Clonard monastery while his beliefs were in conflict with Christ’s teaching, he was proclaiming himself to be wiser than God and better than Jesus Christ. He was in logic proclaiming himself to be God.
“[The man of lawlessness or the Antichrist] will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshipped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.” (2 Thes 2:3-4)”
Further information can be found on my website - click on my name. I’m interested in republican responses particularly as they are the most distant from Christ and many of whom think that Christ was an asshole. Well, isn’t it true?Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 07:31 PM“The thing about plausible deniability is that it has to be plausible to work.”
The contempt that Sinn Fein have for the people of Northern Ireland is astonishing. But from their perspective, they’ve managed to murder thousands, maim tens of thousands, make hundreds of millions, retard all prospect of Irish unity, tell so many lies that they can’t remember what the truth is, bomb the economy into ruin, etc… and still manage to pass themselves off as patient peacemakers and legitimate politicians. The contempt that Sinn Fein have for the people who be merited if the people were not successfully brainwashed into accepting squalid sectarian criminals in Stormont by a government-led propaganda campaign that was facilitated by a compliant media.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 07:38 PMTypo: “The contempt that Sinn Fein have for the people would be merited if the people were not successfully brainwashed...”
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 07:40 PMGood effort John, but I’m actually the antichrist. Gerry got put out in the semi finals.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 07:52 PMMick,
I’m pleasantly suprised by this news update; things could not have gone on.Unionists got to keep the Union for as long as… in return SF’s equality ILA legislation is not unreasonable; neither is the Maze, as its part of the history of norn iron.
I wonder also if Gerry said to Brown:
“Look my party mandated the leadership to support the police on condition of transfer of P&J;. Do I have to go back to them and tell them we have not secured P&J;, so we no longer support the PSNI”.Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:01 PMJohn,
I don’t want to interfere with your freedom of conscience, but that last has little directly to do with the subject in hand. It has some of the characteristics of a commercial cross posting. Please engage, or take it somewhere else.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:02 PMPercy
You’re futuring wildly there. This thread is a post script on SF’s denial of that it was briefing on the threat of an election. The thread on the deal (that’s not a deal, yet) is the one before this.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:05 PMIt would appear the DUP called Sinn Feins Bluff and won, I also suspect that the British & Irish Governemnt told Sinn Fein to catch themselves on.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:10 PMJohn O’Connell, I clicked on your name. Meaning no disrespect, I suggest you are suffering from Acute Psychosis. I honestly hope that you get help.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:10 PMSF’s equality ILA legislation
how is Irish an equality issue. Its a mickey mouse language spoken by a handful of people. ENGLISH is spoken by everyone. If you want to learn irish go ahead, but do it without legislation
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:12 PMObserver,
gaelige is the indigenous language of this Island. It was here before the English language, before the inceptions of the 26 County and 6 County states, before you and before me and will continue to be here long after we are gone. Show a little respect sir/madam for your native tongue. The language should be enshrined in legislation, protected and indeed cherished by all of the nation’s children, including yourself. Tir gan teanga, tir gan anam!Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:30 PMShow a little respect sir/madam for your native tongue. The language should be enshrined in legislation, protected and indeed cherished by all of the nation’s children, including yourself. Tir gan teanga, tir gan anam!
Posted by Quagmire on Jun 04, 2008 @ 09:30 PMIts not my native tounge or anyone else i know, my native tounge is english, the language of the world. What a waste of time and resources. Polish or Lithuanian i can understand, but Irish , give us all a break and stop trying to be Irish.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:32 PMHilarious. In the last decade, has there been a more humiliating, self-inflicted political defeat for any “political party”? More! more!
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:42 PMMick,
Can you yellow card the guy please ? He’s posted the same drivel on several different threads.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:44 PMGood god, talk about a balls up. Flag your weakness, threaten, spin and buckle.
Whoever thought that plan up has just succeeded in making the whole party look ineffectual, weak and incompetent.
Can’t wait to hear how this humiliation is spun.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:46 PM“...stop trying to be Irish.” I suppose being born and living on the Island of Ireland doesn’t qualify me as an Irish man. How misconceived I was in believing such nonsense for such a long period of time. Thank you for that Kernel of truth and clarity Observer, you have changed my life. Oh by the way, thats called sarcasm just in case your inhibited intellect doesn’t kop on. Oh and by the way your chosen tongue may be English but your native tongue still remains gaelige and no amount of wishful thinking or revisionism will change that fact. Oiche mhaith mo chara! x
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:47 PMDewi:
’ll take that but what do you mean about “up front deals” - is that the same as no deal?
Posted by Deal me in on Jun 03, 2008 @ 05:54 PM
Means that there will be no deal on any of the above before marty becomes Peters no 2
Posted by observer on Jun 03, 2008 @ 05:59 PMLets wait and see what happens after they visit gordon, time to get the parades issue sorted, the army council disbanded, Academic Selection retained to our satisfaction...that`ll do for a start
Thanks Gerry
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:48 PMbut your native tongue still remains gaelige and no amount of wishful thinking or revisionism will change that fact. Oiche mhaith mo chara! x
Posted by Quagmire on Jun 04, 2008 @ 09:47 PMNO , i didnt choose to speak english, it is the language of my people, therefore it is my native tounge and the tounge of protestants and catholics up n down this island.
Irish is a dead language spoken by those who love fiddly dee music, leprachans and banshees.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:50 PMJoint statement now issued from Robbo and McGuinness; it’s official. The days of Sinn Fein using smoke and mirror PR to hide their ineffectiveness as politicians are now over.
Mark, you’re absolutely right.
Observer, are you going to honour your bet ?
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:51 PMHow is it a humiliation Mark? You don’t know what the deal is yet but at the very least the DUP have had to take their veto off the table. Looks like a good days work from here.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:51 PMPlus we now know the DUPers are shit scared of going to the electorate.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:52 PMBilly,
The deal for not following through on a spun threat is to ‘discuss these on Friday’.
No matter what SF blinked first.
The DUP won again. SF jumped through the hoop. robinson with become FM in return for nothing on the table in advance.
That’s humiliation.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:57 PMMcGrath
thanks hi.
Comrade Stalin
They’re all different, so there.
Mick
Sorry but it was an opportunity not to be missed. But I’m not commercial like that.
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 08:58 PMComrade see the above post, of the earlier post!?!?
What deal has been agreed?
Marty will become peters 2 with no promises other than we`ll go n see uncle Gordon, then you`ll give us parades, the army council, academic selection and who knows what else
Posted by on Jun 04, 2008 @ 09:02 PM
