Thursday, March 13, 2008
Normalisation and the politics of protest
Garibaldy in the comments on this thread noted how the politics of protest are not in the interests of the Stormont parties wedded firmly to political office. Though it isn’t completely off the Irish agenda as the recent protest against a proposed English royal visit shows. (discussed on RTE’s Seoige and O’Shea below)
With normalisation of British influence in the 6 counties so progressed that a visit by Elizabeth Windsor can be announced in advance for the first time in 50 years, street protest refuses to go away as éirígí will be on the streets of Armagh to voice opposition on Holy Thursday (March 20).
Mark McGregor @ 10:37 AM
“normalisation of British influence”
more perhaps the decline “of British influence” means it’s not so much a big deal.
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 11:21 AM[aside]Price of Protest - Allister fined £600.
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 11:31 AMThe only big deal here is that we have on this island, slaves who give their allegience to these monkeys. Very distasteful.
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 11:32 AMso sinn fein are not organising a protest against the queen’s visit to armagh? not even the local Ogra?
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 11:35 AMahem I seriously doubt that will happen
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 11:43 AMSo the Queen of England is coming for a visit? So what? I think she should be treated with the same respect as any other visiting foreign head of state. Of course this will mean loads of bunting and flag-waving, which is annoying. Normalisation? In these days of ‘parity of esteem’, it is laughable that the streets will be bedecked with Union Jacks, yet the St. Patrick’s Day celebrations across the north and especially here in Belfast will have no Tricolours on show.
And before the usual wave of ‘The flag of the Unino is the flaf of NI’ nonesense, St. Patrick is the patron saint of Ireland. The tricolour is the national flag of Ireland. Tricolours will be on show all over the world on the 17th, but not here. Parity of esteem? We are all equal, but some are more equal than others…Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 11:50 AM‘The flag of the Unino is the flaf of NI’
oops.
Of course, this should read ‘The flag of the Union is the flag of NI’
Dont want any pedants having a go :)Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 11:52 AMNot to be flippant or so - but thank goodness for eirigi!
Well done people - keep up the legitimate protest.Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:04 PM-
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:17 PM
The tricolour is the flag of the Irish Republic. St Patrick is the patron saint of the island of Ireland. The tricolour has nothing to do with St Patrick.
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:18 PMThe tricolour has nothing to do with St Patrick.
I know this. However, on the day of celebration of the country’s patron saint, it is traditional to display the flag of that country, which in this case is the Tricolour. What flag would you suggest?
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:29 PMHow about no flag?
St Patrick is not the patron Saint of the Republic he is the patron Saint of the island you idiotPosted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:38 PMall this craic about the patron saint being Patrick. sure thats all nonsense stemming from the 640s when armagh were looking to promote themselves as the chief monastery in ireland.
the patron saint should be Columba (colm cille)
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:43 PMWhile a discussion on flags is inevtable in the run up to St Patrick’s day, can it not be kept for a topic where it has some relevance?
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:43 PMIf Patrick had’ve missed the boat we would all be celebrating St Palladius day. Palladius was his stand in.
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:46 PMSt Patrick was a Brit .
Whatever happened to ‘Brits Out’ ?
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:51 PMI noticed on the RTE News some people supported Betsy’s visit, so I wondered if you guys could do us all a favor and keep her there.
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:54 PMAye but he said, I come in peace. he did’nt murder any one as far as i know and he did’nt steal any land.
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:56 PMwill the sf representatives in armagh be on hand to meet and greet the queen? surely they can’t all have other things to do that day.
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:57 PMI think they may be busy out chasing snakes
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 01:00 PMwell it would be bad form, if sinn fein were to go to protest against a visit from their new paymaster.
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 01:02 PMPatrick chased the snakes out of Irealnd all 32 counties hundreds of years before partition.
I wonder did any snakes return after partition with the new political dispensation and all that.
Snakes are no longer banned, all snakes welcome ha ha
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 01:07 PM“I think they may be busy out chasing snakes
Posted by cut the bull on Mar 13, 2008 @ 12:00 PM”
No need to look beyond their own organisation....
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 01:09 PMIt is probably recognised by other contributors that I am no cheerleader for royalty and I have a tendency at times to fondly reminisce of the prospect of the tumbrils creaking anew but while I respect éirígí’s right to protest against Her Majesty’s visit I am as offended as any monarchist would at the language they use to refer to Queen Elizabeth.
“Twenty years on, Elizabeth Windsor, the woman who masquerades as the ‘Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland’”; and slighting references to Her Majesty as “Windsor" and ”Elizabeth Windsor”.
“Masquerades as Queen....” they scream. What masquerade? She is the queen. No masquerade is necessary.
This language is simply offensive and is intended so to be and does no credit to those who employ it. It is the language of saloon bar braggarts that tells more of the users than of the subject they seek to denigrate.
As a republican it is monarchy I oppose and I oppose it implacably but while the citizens of the UK choose to retain a monarchy that monarch is entitled to the repect that using her correct form of address signifies. The extending of common courtesy requires no motive and illustrates only a baseness of character when absent.
Is this what the new republicanism is to be reduced to - the name-calling antics of vulgar schoolgirls? Shame on éirígí.
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 01:14 PMOh darth you’re so hurtful
Posted by on Mar 13, 2008 @ 01:21 PM
