Tuesday, February 06, 2007
No anthem here
Andrew McCann isn’t pleased at the suggestion that the UK national anthem should not be played at Croke Park.
Michael Shilliday @ 05:39 PM
What suggestion that the UK national anthem shouldn’t be played at Croke Park?
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 06:09 PMAndrew McCann isn’t pleased at...
This is news?
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 06:17 PMHaving just re-read McCann’s article, I am stumped to see what he’s complaining about. No-one is suggesting that we insult our English visitors by refusing to play their chosen anthem at the match, so what’s the problem?
He writes:
So why then are we subjected to this non-discussion about the playing of God Save the Queen in Croke Park at the forthcoming Six Nations rugby match?Because it isn’t an issue?
I think that McCann was expecting there to be a furore over this, at which point he could write another insult-laden piece about the Republic, but since it hasn’t come to pass as he had hoped he’s feeling a little let down.
So he has to line up Paddy O’Strawman and have a pop at him.
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 06:24 PMI read opening, sorry, only, line of this blog incorrectly at first - I thought that GTSQ had been banned. Now I see it’s just some right-wing loony who’s upset that some people may (also incorrectly) may be lobbying to prevent it being played.
So, as Dec said - this is news?
My postman, Jimmy (if you’re reading - hi Jimmy!), isn’t best pleased that he can’t find Dime Bars in his local sweet shop. Can someone blog this please?
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 06:35 PMMartin
The National Anthem is akin to responding to a Maori haka with a hankie waving morris dance.
Liliburlero would be little better but at least there would be a valid reason to object (was it Colonel Wharton of the Suffolk Regt who wrote it to mock the Irish ?)
I go with Billy Connnolly .. we should put a stirring lyric to the Archers theme tune.
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 06:43 PMI wish you had warned me where this piece of rubbish came from then I would not have hit on the link and gone into this excuse of a blog site
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 06:43 PMcould we stop given hate-filled mccann oxygen please?
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 06:53 PMI agree Aaron, can we have him and his excuse of a site banished to Mars (the planet not the chocolate bar):-0
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 06:56 PM“subjected to this non-discussion”.
I think I’ll just go out and have a non-meal with my non-wife. Oh wait, I can’t, I’ve just eaten, I’m single and I’m not psychotic.
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 07:18 PMfirst time blogger.
Is this guy for real...whatever about his confusion over the anthem, if you read down through his piece he gets onto the original Bloody Sunday.....“Britain’s irregular forces killed 14 people at Croke Park back in 1920. So flaming what?”
Is he taken seriously ?
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 07:30 PMNews just in: Nutcase starts row in empty house.
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 07:37 PMThis Slugger thread is nothing but a piss-poor attempt at trolling IMO.
Surely to become a blogger on Slugger you must be able to demonstrate at least some basic journalistic capability? Simply providing a link to a non-story isn’t really the quality we’ve come to expect from this site.
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 07:39 PMAmerican Irish
I think they have a good few readers who consider them free thinkers who rail against “political correctness”. They both do some bits on the MSM (booo!!) so not everyone considers them nuts. When DV is on the telly he doesn’t come across as ,eh, strident as does on the site.
They seem to hold some American authors and pundits in high regard and maybe there’s a certain amount of aping happening. Who knows, who cares? They’re that wrong they don’t know what right looks like. Good luck to them.
Maybe DV will make an appearance on this very thread.
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 07:45 PMmarty (not ingram)
Jesus, you’d swear you were payin for it. Chill.
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 07:47 PMbpower - i am chilled. are you shilliday in disguise? :O)
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 07:52 PMShit, I’m busted!! woop, woop!!
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 07:54 PMGod Save the Queen is strongly associated with Britians Imperial past. This imperial past maintained in part by might which often meant murder(e.g Croke Park 1920), totrure and economic exploitation whether Ireland or india or elsewhere.
Pretending the natives loved this sort of stuff is precisely the sort of denial of fact that led Britain into its current mess in Iraq. People dont like being invaded particulalrly when the invader is there to steal their stuff whether gold in South Africa or Oil in Iraq or in the case of Ireland because it was convenient.
Croke park represents to many a resitance to this perfidious imperialism and as a good manners the RFU should opt not to insult the memory of those murdered in the stadium by singing their imperialist anthem.
No Irish anthem should be sung either, in deference to Andrew Trimble and co, at this game or at any future Irish internationals.Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 08:17 PMShould slugger himself be taken to task for a blogline that makes people believe something IS happening thats NOT happening? was that HIS plan?
come on the Irish!
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 08:55 PMThe british murderers of bloody sunday 1920 were not criticised never mind brought to justice....so meally mouthed british ‘shared hurt’ and shared painful history’ just doesn’t washed.No Justice,no closure.
It was official Govt policy termed ‘reprisal’,’shooting’,’killing’,blah, blah blah...bottom line it was Murder and they haven’t even the bad manners to at least apologise b4 they yak about the past stayin in the past.
But we will afford our neighbours the courtesy of playing in our stadium that represents our resistance to their unapologetic imperialism,in a stadium that their official representatives murdered innocent men/women/children.We will be respectful of their anthem and will be friendly to their travelling fans.Why, because we have moved on and we dont hold them responsible for their Govt’s past,yet we will not be lectured by them because they refuse to hold their Govt responsible.They still haven’t dealt with their history or faced up to the evil done in their name both past and present ie Iraq...we should not let that distract us!They are easily shamed when you mention any of their current or past sins.
The shame lives on...in fact I feel sorry for the poor buggers!
We even have to help em out to win the cricket these days...SO lets do all our real talking and show our true feelings on the pitch...bring it on!
NO SURRENDER!Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 09:10 PMMichael
No-one has made such a suggestion!
It’s just another figment of hate-filled McCann’s imagination. As we are all aware he has a bitter hatred of anything and anyone Irish.
Why did you start this thread? Who cares about the ramblings of a pathetic troll complaining about something that hasn’t happened?
I have attended many Ireland/England Rugby internationals and both anthems have always been respected and the fans have been extremely well behaved.
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 10:38 PMIt would be great if the English had a tune everyone else could like and hum along with.. All the fantastic music the English have come up over the years.. they could easily choose a something a bit more popular
I agree with the previous contributor -
Billy Connolly’s suggestion of the Archers’ music would be the perfect anthem for England.Or maybe “Telstar” that’s a great tune, rousing and anthemic and futuristic… without any mention of royals.
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 10:54 PMRSF (both of them) protested outside the Sinn FĂ©in Ard Fheis on policing too.
What a non-story.
The IRFU have paid their money, they can play whatever they like, even with their odd shaped balls.
What an awful hatefilled link. I assume he won’t be one of the England supporters travelling and being welcomed with open arms?
Is he even a rugby fan or just a shit-stirring begrudger?
Posted by on Feb 06, 2007 @ 11:03 PMAs a compromise for those (imaginary or not) who would feel uncomfortable with the british national anthem, hows about we play the Sex Pistols version of God Save The Queen? :)
Posted by on Feb 07, 2007 @ 10:02 AMAs an Irish Republican and a MASSIVE GAA fan I’m really not comfortable with GSTQ at Croke Park… But you get over it, at the end of the day it’s just a song and as SouperSoupy says RSF aren’t exactly a force to be reckoned with.
Posted by on Feb 07, 2007 @ 10:15 AMLook!! Lets be frank here. The main reason for national anthems in sport is that they make good T.V. Even before Champions League games we get a rendition of the UEFA “anthem” whilst the cameras home in on the gladiators’ faces - all to whet the appetite and to add a little drama.
The same goes for the medal ceremonies at the Olympics etc. You can virtually hear the producer begging the winners to screw up their faces and cry whilst facing their national flag.
The whole thing is a made for TV nonsense. Why can’t the players sing in the dressing room if they want to wind themselves up.
Billy Connolly is right - most anthems are dreadful dirges and need jazzed up. It’s all gone too far. Who was it said “patriotism is the last refuge of the wicked”.......
Posted by on Feb 07, 2007 @ 11:46 AM
