Tuesday, May 23, 2006

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1. Realist on May 24, 2006 @ 09:29 AM wrote “…displayed by certain Chicago Gaels…” I think you could be more exact when painting with that tar brush of yours. The BelTel article quotes included…”A club spokesman added: “There were five people in the crowd who are members of this club. There are 5,000 members in this club. At least 90% of the protesters were outsiders.”

   Posted by anonymous on May 24, 2006 @ 03:55 PM

2. It also used to be legal to hold slaves, women didn’t have the right to legally vote, and we legally interned thousands of Japanese-Americans during WWII.

   Does that make it OK because its the law? Were they
   “Like muggers, rapists, robbers, thieves, prostitutes and other such breakers of the law.”
   Or do you think the government is always unquestionably right?

   Truth is we have lots of larger worries than this. This has happened at every stage with nearly every ethnicity in our history. This phase will pass as well and eventually Hispanics will become ingrained in our culture and we will be complaining about mass migration from another culture.

   Posted by  on May 24, 2006 @ 04:07 PM

3. Anonymous:  “There are numberous illegals in prison in the USA for a variety of crimes. These should be repatriated first.”

   Why, so murders and rapists can be released by the tin-pot dictatorships they came from?

   Anonymous:  “I think you should have written the minimum of health care and educa as state supported versions of these are so poor that anyone with any cash has private hea;th and sends the children to private schools.”

   What planet are you from and when are your alien masters going to take you home?  I work in the US, in healthcare, auditing hospitals.  To start with the basics, no hospital that accepts federal funding is allowed to turn away patients on the basis of ability to pay, period, full stop.  Federal funding includes research, Medicare, Meidcaid, etc. 

   As for schools, two of the most reliable groups that use private schools are public school teachers and politicians.

   Your ignorance is appalling.

   Anonymous:  “I think my posting was merely to show you were initiating unsupported opinion; you’ve highlighted your lack of reference again. “

   As have your… however…

   http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalrelease.html

   The net cost of illegal immigrants is about $10 billion on the federal level.  This would triple to about $27 billion in the event of an amnesty.  The above is in 2002 dollars.  On a state level, its a more difficult question, due to the differing tax schemes.

   Anonymous:  “I won’t comment on the rest of your posting as it’s just plain, generalizing, moronic, bordering-on-racism, crap.”

   Who should I believe, the news over here or your politically correct pablum?  The overwhelming number of ER births in the southwest are now “anchor babies.” The problem has gotten to the point that some hospitals are closing their emergency rooms.

   Anonymous:  ““…a union “owned” city…” no such thing. You are displaing your ignorance of the construction indust in USA. “

   They are called “prevailing wage laws” and they force those purchasing labor to pay an artificially elevated wage labor rate.  Additionally, some localities, having union-dependent politicians, enact regualtions that require the use of union labor under certain funding schemes and in certain areas.  What becomes a real pain is when you end up having to hire three or four guys to assemble a small display booth for an expo, since the carpenter can’t do the laborers or the electricians jobs, all at union scale.

   Anonymous:  ““Such places as Home Depot have gone so far as to…” provide nice areas for people to get in out of the rain.”

   They are facilitating an illegal transaction, specifically, the hiring of illegal aliens.

   Posted by  on May 24, 2006 @ 04:25 PM

4. Anonymous:  “Those coming into the States are generally doing so for work or family reasons.”

   Let them come here legally. 

   Anonymous:  “It is a crime. But, and this is my point...on the greater scale of things the mentioned muggings and rapists should be dealt with first. “

   Ah, but all illegal immigrants are criminals.  Some are just more criminal than others.

   http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

   Posted by  on May 24, 2006 @ 04:29 PM

5. Anonymous

   Tell you what. Many years ago in New York, when you couldnt hardly take a subway without risking life and limb, they brought in a little thing called ‘Zero Tolerance Policing’

   See, what that means is that if people think they can break little laws, and push the boat out, well then it isnt too long before they think they can break even the big laws.

   So you stop them in their tracks. If its illegal, there is NO hierarchy of crime.

   Sadly I get to say.... A crime is a crime is a crime.

   Posted by  on May 24, 2006 @ 04:35 PM

6. “Why, so murders and rapists can be released by the tin-pot dictatorships they came from? “ I guess adding the ‘monitoring’ point to my original ‘assisted with per criminal capita funding’ was totally missed by you because…

   “What planet are you from and when are your alien masters going to take you home?  I work in the US, in healthcare, auditing hospitals.  To start with the basics, no hospital that accepts federal funding is allowed to turn away patients on the basis of ability to pay, period, full stop. “
   Maybe I should write this in black and white print as my present magic marker seems to be invisible to some !!…or else they don’t read what I post as it contradicts with their opinions. I wrote “..Should the govt tackle the proor equality but expensive public health and educ..” and about “…Fed Govt might address the issue of poor return on invest…”
   Jeesz, it looks like the Fed Gov should get some auditors into the review the books or better still keep the auditors away from the ‘net as they aren’t reviewing the hospital’s books and talking shite on SluggerOToole !??! You make this so easy!

   “As for schools, two of the most reliable groups that use private schools are public school teachers and politicians. “ I don’t get your arguement here …you seem to be agreeing with my earlier postings.
   “Your ignorance is appalling. “ this is taking away from your babble.

   “As have your… however… “ four postings later we’re awarded some facts and figures…about time. In quickly reviewing the link it seems to be an anti - immigr site…so what’s new?

   “…This would triple to about $27 billion in the event of an amnesty.  “ again my magic marker failed me. Didn’t I not post that there are other more pressing issues that need to be resolved before we make scapegoats out of the immigs. Insurance rip offs and the high cost but poor quality of health care. Why isn’t there a proper audit of this industry?!??! Too easy.
   
   Who should I believe, the news over here or your politically correct pablum?  That’d be Bill Reilly or Murdoch’s Fox news that you’re relying on so heavily for your twisted views on immigs.

   “Additionally, some localities, having union-dependent politicians…” name them or I’ll consider your generalizations to by pure shite.

   “…small display booth for an expo…” isn’t this just an example of bullshot / corrupt blue clooar unions which I’d spoken of earlier. Thanks for proving my point for me.
   
   “They are facilitating an illegal transaction, specifically, the hiring of illegal aliens. “
   Let’s lose the dramatic labeling here. Home Depot are building a canopy against the rain for the Mexicans who are committing the great crime of working at jobs that the marshmellows won’t do.

   Your ignorance is appalling especially of a situation in which you have a career.

   Posted by anonymous on May 24, 2006 @ 04:58 PM

7. I wonder what the Antrim GAA will do to discipline the supporter who produced a gun after the Dunloy and Cargin Minor Football match last night?

   Posted by  on May 24, 2006 @ 05:07 PM

8. “Let them come here legally.” Restrictive laws don’t always allow this. These laws will have to changed and seems they will be by the present debate in Wash DC. It looks like you and GWB will be seeing a lot of foreigners in the future but I don’t think he’s prepared for these same type of foreigners still getting into the USA
   “Ah, but all illegal immigrants are criminals.  Some are just more criminal than others. “ At last the penny drop. I took the great plunge and actually read what I wrote. Yes some crimes are worst than others. I just hope the rabble rousers would get around to the serious crimes and watch out for stoking the fire of racism. Thanks for the link…on brief review it seems to back up some of my points. You’re not very good at this, are you?

   “…take a subway without risking life and limb…” brought about because because the marshmallows abandoned the subways out of irrational fears brought about by scaremongering twits and media blood glorification.

   “… they brought in a little thing called ‘Zero Tolerance Policing’ …” they being that idiot Guiliani.
   Zero need for professionalism in the courts and police force. If one broke a law then one goes to jail. This form of Sharia is also practiced in Saudia Arabia where if there’s a crime then the society blindly follows a path – no need for subjective review or professional human input for the therefore overpaid judiciary and police. NY also forgot to increase the jail capacity for the incarcerated – Duhhh – so early release came to the fore. This mixed with the lessened professionalism led to …more…crime.

   “See, what that means is that if people think they can break little laws, and push the boat out, well then it isnt too long before they think they can break even the big laws. “ They used have this in Irel in the…18th century. Steal a chicken and you’re send to Van Deimens land…we grew out of that with development of civilization !??!

   “…there is NO hierarchy of crime…” There is.
   “.... A crime is a crime is a crime. “ no comment necessary as you’ve just proved my point

   Posted by anonymous on May 24, 2006 @ 05:14 PM

9. All 4 of my grandparents came over from Ireland—3 legally (one actually born in the US, but went back to Ireland when he was 3 or 4) and one illegally.

   According family folklore my illegal grandfather came over in the early 20s because the IRA had it in for him.  Fast forward to the 50s, when all four of his sons joined the military (one each per military arm) to fight in Korea.  The ‘FBI’ (put in quotes because i think that’s a bit of an embellishment—i’m thinking it was really the INS) came in to the bar where he worked in the Bronx (apparently, they knew exactly where to find him), sat him down, and told him to immediately apply for his citizenship as the papers would be pushed through instantly.  We don’t know how they knew about my granddad, nor how they knew about his sons fighting in Korea.

   my dear old gentle grandfather wept a bit, as his fear of being found out had finally come true.  he never did apply for his citizenship … he had lived in fear of being sent back for thirty years and was too terrified to face the government.

   I’m not saying that my granddad didn’t break the law, but I am suggesting that not every case is black and white.

   Posted by  on May 24, 2006 @ 06:24 PM

10. Anonymous,

    ” I think you could be more exact when painting with that tar brush of yours”

    According to the Irish News, Tuesday 16th May, two members of the St Brendans GAC in Chicago were quoted as being associated with organising the protest group...Messrs Niall Hyde (Chairman of St Brendans) and Shane McCallon.

    Their letter of protest to the Gaelic Park Committee is in the public domain.

    Linfield Football Club permitted a Camogie team to train at Windsor Park last year.

    Posted by  on May 24, 2006 @ 06:30 PM

11. there you go now, that wasn’t too difficult, now was it.

    Now we know it was just two idiots rather than the false idea I got that there were loads of placard weilding GAA members protesting. I’m sure you wouldn’t want to have projected that false impression (no adgenda and all that). 5 members from the thousands of Gaels in Chicago and only 40-50 peaceful protesters in the whole group - storm in a tea cup really.

    While we’re clarifying things...would you like to comment on the homophobic comment made by OWC fans in Giants stadium as per my earlier posting ?

    Linfield and the camogie...I know, wonderful advances being made these days. Reminds me of the joke ....when Paisley is re incarnated in 50 years or so ...asks many things but only hears bad news...finds out Linfield won the cup...excellent.... until he hears the score....  2-10 to 1-11 against St Galls !?!?

    Posted by anonymous on May 24, 2006 @ 06:53 PM

12. Ms. Fitz, when the zero tolerance policy was introduced in New york City legislation was also enacted which prohibited law enforcement from questioning any crime victim’s immigration status, or misdemeanor offenders for that matter.  To the poster who made the snide comment regarding New York’s participation in the Ulster hurling championship, their footballers also compete in the Connacht championship, but how should you know that when most of your sporting knowledge is probably courtesy of Mr. Murdoch
    THE IRISH NATION EXTENDS BEYOND THE SHORES OF THE ISLAND, SHOW SOME SOLIDARITY AND PLAY THE GAME IN NEW YORK.

    Posted by  on May 24, 2006 @ 07:57 PM

13. “THE IRISH NATION EXTENDS BEYOND THE SHORES OF THE ISLAND”

    And also beyond the 26 counties, I was led to believe.
    Someone tell that rabble up in Chicago!

    Posted by  on May 24, 2006 @ 08:15 PM

14. “Reminds me of the joke ....when Paisley is re incarnated in 50 years or so ...asks many things but only hears bad news...finds out Linfield won the cup...excellent.... until he hears the score....  2-10 to 1-11 against St Galls !?!?”

    Anonymous,

    I think I’ve heard that one more times than the “Good Doctor” has said “No”.

    Posted by  on May 24, 2006 @ 09:20 PM

15. “Linfield Football Club permitted a Camogie team to train at Windsor Park last year”

    And a large proportion of linfield supporters sang sectarian songs during ALL their home Setanta cup games against el opposition at Windsor Park this season.

    I’m sure the visiting Derry City supporters were delighted to hear the home crowd sing abusive songs about the victims of bloody sunday !!

    And i’m not sure ‘future’ Setanta champions, Drogheda were used to being called ‘fenian bas**rds by a large section of linfield fans.

    Posted by  on May 24, 2006 @ 09:31 PM

16. Anonymous:  ““..Should the govt tackle the proor equality but expensive public health and educ..” “

    And I am saying you’re wrong.  I work in the industry, my job isn’t solely limited to the books and poor folks aren’t getting the shaft on this.

    The rule of thumb in life is “good, fast, cheap… pick two.”

    The US has picked good and fast—a hospital system that has service on demand, rather than waiting for a list, ala England.

    Anonymous:  “name them or I’ll consider your generalizations to by pure shite. “

    Pretty much any white urban Democrat you’d care to mention.

    Anonymous:  “isn’t this just an example of bullshot / corrupt blue clooar unions which I’d spoken of earlier. Thanks for proving my point for me. “

    No, its not.  Its local law and regulation, empowered by local government.

    Now, can you support any of you’re suppositions, or is it just so much hot air?

    Posted by  on May 24, 2006 @ 09:57 PM
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