Monday, July 02, 2007
New Parliament building
I see that an academic wants to redevelop the Waterfront area of Belfast, to include a new Parliament building. The Newsletter’s page three has a map of the proposed design, which unless my geography is deficient, will involve turning the Short Strand into a train station.
Michael Shilliday @ 10:19 AM
3,000 people in Short Strand being moved out of their century-old community to satisfy the designs of some academic. Yeah right…
It’s often been said that many academics have a less tenuous grasp of real-life. This maybe proves the point…
As for the train station proposal, Central Station is only 100 yards away from his proposed train station site in Short Strand ! Has anyome told him...??
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 10:49 AMSurely it would make more sense using the lower Newtownards Road area as the train station site. Its full of empty houses, large areas of waste ground & empty shops.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 11:09 AMWhilst I would not wish to see a new parliament building, I would dearly love to see the Short Strand demolished.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 11:47 AMZiznivy, would you acre to clarify your remarks re the Short Strand?
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 11:51 AMSorry - typo, obviously that is ‘care to qualify your remarks’
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 11:52 AMReds, not particularly. It seems fairly self-explanatory.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 11:55 AMIt’s not really self explanatory. Were it so, I would not have asked you to clarify your remarks.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 11:57 AMI feel that batter use could be made of the Short Strand area by demolishing it and building something else. A shiny new train station need not necessarily be my preference. Perhaps a multi-sports atadium! :-)
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:02 PMSo we should just go around knocking down working class communities, because people think we could build something new and shiny their? Hmmm. Ok. What do we do about the 1000 plus people who live there? Just turf them out?
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:05 PMRehouse them somewhere where they are less unsightly.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:09 PMThat said, I would prioritise knocking down the village.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:12 PM‘Rehouse them somewhere where they are less unsightly’
Sums up the new breed of n.i football supporter.
Just the same old sectarian bigotry, how sad.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:20 PMThe Village is a loyalist area. :-)
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:21 PM“Turning the Short Strand into a train station” - sounds good to me. While we’re at it how about similarly demolishing the Markets, Donegall Pass, the Village, Sandy Row and all of the other anachronistic pockets of ‘working’ class vermin throughout the city. How dare these scum expect to live within walking distance of the city centre without working or behaving in a civilised, law-abiding fashion.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:24 PMHave I missed something? Don’t we already have a Parliament building?
Do we really want something ghastly like the monstrosity at the bottom of the Royal Mile in Edinburgh?
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:26 PM“‘working’ class vermin”
“How dare these scum expect to live within walking distance of the city centre without working or behaving in a civilised, law-abiding fashion.”As one of these ‘vermin’ and ‘scum’ who has lived my entire life in working class communities and have lived in one of these communities for 15 years that people now propose bulldozing. I would like to point out, I work, I am a private property owner and have no criminal record. Are those who don’t fit the stereotyping permitted to stay?
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:31 PMMaybe you really buck the trend and don’t expect oppotunities and employment to be parachuted to your door, just because you’re part of a “community”.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:34 PM“"‘working’ class vermin”
“How dare these scum expect to live within walking distance of the city centre without working or behaving in a civilised, law-abiding fashion.”As one of these ‘vermin’ and ‘scum’ who has lived my entire life in working class communities and have lived in one of these communities for 15 years that people now propose bulldozing. I would like to point out, I work, I am a private property owner and have no criminal record. Are those who don’t fit the stereotyping permitted to stay?”
I would have thought the answer was obvious from my post FD - of course you can stay. My objection is to the use of my taxes to subsidise the housing of work-shy, criminal and invariably sectarian scum within desirable areas of Belfast.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:36 PMThat said, I would prioritise knocking down the village.
Yep, just to prove you’re not a bigot! :roll:
3,000 people in Short Strand
site in Short Strand
You left out the definite article. Are you an American, macswiney?
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:36 PM“I would have thought the answer was obvious from my post FD - of course you can stay. My objection is to the use of my taxes to subsidise the housing of work-shy, criminal and invariably sectarian scum within desirable areas of Belfast.”
Hear hear.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:41 PM“Yep, just to prove you’re not a bigot! :roll:”
Certainly not. It’s because I live closer to the Village and have more ample opportunity to experience the unique “culture” of the area.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:43 PMZiz
IIRC the owner-occupation rate in the area is at 50%, the economically active outnumber the inactive by almost 2:1 and the area also has a low crime rate. So it would appear that I do not buck the trend.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:46 PMziznivy (owen)
You were banned from the owc site for making vile commemts about disabled kids.
Crawl back under your rock.
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:51 PMMy objection is to the use of my taxes to subsidise the housing of work-shy, criminal and invariably sectarian scum within desirable areas of Belfast.
Isn’t it fascinating how the perception of a bit of easy money made on the property market has turned members of a previously productive, cultured, constructive social class into a shower of stuck-up bigots?
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:52 PMBemused
Thank you for the clarification. I am afraid it was not “obvious” as your comment was a blanket prescription in terms of how area’s and residents were to be dealt as made explicit in the comment below:
“While we’re at it how about similarly demolishing the Markets, Donegall Pass, the Village, Sandy Row and all of the other anachronistic pockets of ‘working’ class vermin throughout the city.”
Posted by on Jul 02, 2007 @ 12:52 PM
