Friday, May 16, 2008
Moane’s Cross and the end of history
We quite frequently drive along the mountain road between Fivemiletown and Rosslea. Last time we were along that road a car was stopped beside the memorial at Moanes Cross to two IRA men: Feargal O’Hanlon and Sean South, who died after an attack on Brookeborough RUC station on the 1st January 1957. An elderly couple seemed to be laying flowers at the place. I wondered if they were friends or relatives of those who had died there all those years ago in the IRA border campaign.
Mary McAleese has suggested that the end of Irelands centuries long political conflict is at hand. This in many ways echoes comments by Bertie Ahern whilst he was in Washington. Of course these sentiments are not confined to RoI politicians or to nationalists and also seem to have some echoes in Dr. Paisleys latest remarks. I do feel, however, that this is a very difficult conclusion to draw when one considers the history of this island and indeed the history of other conflicts in the world.
The conflicts here have been solved with tedious frequency. Ireland has been pacified whether by force or by politics on many occasions. By turns Elizabeth I, James I/VI, Cromwell and Gladstone used pacification of various forms and the list of rebellions includes so many dates: 1641, 1798, 1916 etc. I would suggest that the nature of our conflict here is somewhat similar to ethnic conflicts, although as with many so called ethnic conflicts, there are no actual ethnic differences, merely cultural ones. The problem is with totally differing political aspirations and that is unlikely to change any time soon.
Looking to other places in the world there are frequent examples of conflicts supposedly solved years ago, which recurred. How many expected the orgy of violence visited on the Balkans? Remember also that the Balkan conflict was solved by the creation of Yugoslavia after it had helped precipitate the First World War (of course the above is utterly simplified but there is some truth therein). The horrors of Rwanda were unexpected but had causes and (much milder) precedents in the history of that region.
So maybe we have some form of permanent peace and all subsequent quarrels about Northern Ireland will be solved peacefully. However, this sounds a little like the pronouncement of The End of History after the end of the Cold War.
Whilst I agree with Mick that at the moment there (thankfully) seems little likelihood that the dissident terrorists will manage to return us to major violence; I am brought back to that elderly couple at Moanes Cross with whom I started. I sometimes wonder if the terrorist attacks we are seeing now are a little like the IRA border campaign. At the time I am sure the RUC and the government in Stormont were delighted with how relatively easily they defeated that campaign. Little did they know that massively more violence (initiated let us remember by loyalists) was then less than a decade away.
Turgon @ 10:26 PM
Was he one of the Castlegregory Campbells who now sits in Stormont? ;)
Posted by Nevin on May 20, 2008 @ 11:54 AM
Nevin, I’d like to believe he cashed in early on the CardioSalsa craze and now owns half of South Beach, Florida.
Great tune, Mayoman. Another favourite. When Sinead is good she’s fantastic, but almost all the great female singers of a certain age, Sinead included learned a great deal about singing listening to their parents’ or grandparents’ Mary O’Hara recordings. I I couldn’t find her “Bold Fenian Men’— or “Down by the Glenside’, whatever, on youtube, but i did find a link here that might work for you:
http://www.modperl.com/Songs/Folk/Mary O’Hara/Songs of Ireland/
Posted by on May 20, 2008 @ 08:53 PMDon’t work Susan
Posted by on May 20, 2008 @ 09:44 PMAnd finally from me honest - this lad works for me - not bad?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=e9e-_uKaP-E
I only employ people who can sing rebel songs.
Posted by on May 20, 2008 @ 10:19 PMBut mine’s better - Nos da
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oOaguw-FxMI
Posted by on May 20, 2008 @ 10:25 PMdewi, sorry, I can’t get the link to work now, either! She’s on itunes, Ireland and UK store, if that helps. so worth seeking out.
Just saw your new link. Stay as you are, and be ever wonderful, Dewi. Thanks for sharing. Great song, i heard the edge sing it once, years back. this is a clip, but not of the time I heard him:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HXxefgAlrag&feature=related
If anyone even thinks about saying anything snide about the fact that it is u2—you know who you are—i may not have your way with a hyperlink, but I have just located the head butt function. You’ve been warned. :o)
Posted by on May 20, 2008 @ 10:33 PMSusan I love it - so concise:
“And tear their hands as they tear the soil”
Sod Dustin - we gotta winner!!!
Posted by on May 20, 2008 @ 10:44 PMhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GkgvIPpdboA&feature=related
wonderful
Posted by on May 20, 2008 @ 11:11 PMDewi, a halberd is similar to a pike, but more manageable. The Swiss Guards carry them at the Vatican. Sorry for the bloodlust, but Fiach MacHugh was an ancestor. For less bloodthirsty ould rebel songs, try this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa4qPW8g-_0
Posted by on May 20, 2008 @ 11:46 PMFunny Donnacha - that song annoys me for some reason - a bit twee:
Then the Vikings came around
Turned us up and turned us down
Started building boats and towns
They tried to change our living
They tried to change our livingJust don’t quite make it - stick to the bloodlust !!!!
Posted by on May 21, 2008 @ 08:40 AM



