Monday, December 03, 2007

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1. is díol suntais anois é gurbh é an t-uasal Myers an taon iriseóir amháin in RTÉ a d’éirigh as a phost mar gheall ar an rialtas alt 31 a chur bhfheidhm. Dar leis ag an am gur chosc ar shaoirse chainte a bhí ann a gcaithfeadh sé cur ina choinne ar phrionsabal.Mar a dúirt an té a dúirt, Is áit an mac an saol!

   Posted by  on Dec 03, 2007 @ 07:51 PM

2. Ná bac le Blue Hammer, níl ach troll aineolach é. B’fhearr dúinn go léir néamhaird a thabhairt de. Cuireann sé fearg dearg orn chuile uair a bíonn ábhar gaeilge ar slugger éiríonn seicteachas na ndílseoirí a gcinn frithgaelacha salacha.

   Posted by  on Dec 03, 2007 @ 08:46 PM

3. Go on ahead - insult away - it does nothing for the cause ....

   Posted by  on Dec 03, 2007 @ 09:04 PM

4. Actually, it doesn’t sit well with me to agree with Blue Hammer on this, but....

   I work in an office where two senior people regularly switch to Irish to ensure that those around don’t understand the discussion. 

   Solution: myself and another lad in the office started to learn German. 

   :-)

   Cultural Imperialism doesn’t *have* to be the domain of the Brits or the Yanks....

   Posted by  on Dec 03, 2007 @ 10:18 PM

5. Thanks for that Raven - i think,

   Why does agreeing with me not sit well?

   BTW - mick does post 2 (27) meet the ball not man rule?

   Posted by  on Dec 03, 2007 @ 11:03 PM

6. It is rumoured that in the cantons of switzerland, if a person joins the company the language switches to the minority language. So if an Irish speaker joins the company then all switch to Irish. Isn’t that truly democratic and fair/

   Posted by  on Dec 03, 2007 @ 11:29 PM

7. Is cuimhin liom, blianta o shoin, nuair a bhí mé ar saoire sa Ghreig agus bhí mé i scuaine ag an aerfort.Bhí cúpla cailín os mo chomhair agus bhí siad ag caint i nGaeilge faoin ‘striopachas’ a rinne siad agus gach mionsonraí acu. D’éist mé leo ar feadh ceathrú uaire - impassively - agus ansin dúirt mé “An bhfuil lasadh toitín agaibh?” You wanted to have seen their faces!!!!!!!!!

   Posted by  on Dec 03, 2007 @ 11:40 PM

8. Pancho,

   Ach an raibh siad deas?

   Posted by  on Dec 03, 2007 @ 11:46 PM

9. BH,

   You have an uncanny knack of interpreting a language you don’t understand. I’m guessing you spotted the decidedly non Irish word troll.

   qm,

   I’m getting to have quite a short fuse with abusive behaviour. Especially when it comes to people who abuse the accepted use of Irish to make stupid and snide remarks about others on the site. Talk about giving the language a bad name.

   Posted by  on Dec 03, 2007 @ 11:54 PM

10. Scéal deas a Chapaill Phancho! Cárbh as dóibh?

    An bealach is fearr le déaláil leis an Chasúr Gorm ná neamhaird iomlán a thabhairt ar an phrioll.

    Posted by  on Dec 03, 2007 @ 11:57 PM

11. In all fairness Mick, it’s Blue Hammer who’s stirring the pot. An gcaithfidh muid tiontú ar an Bhéarla mar gheall air?

    I thought we had progressed from these silly issues about language use.

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 12:01 AM

12. I might agree. The same thing tends to happen in reverse on anything to do with Northern Irish football. Then again, have you read what ‘qm’ actually said? It’s quite poisonous, sectarian stuff.

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 12:07 AM

13. RG,

    Sin ata (riomhair gan fadai!) mise ag iarraidh fail amach!

    Ar doigh amach.

    Raven bloke,

    I have no doubt you believe in the validity of your statement although I firmly believe you miss read the situation, non-Irish speakers and particularly unionist aften belive that Irish is spoken just to annoy them, I call it the ‘its all about me syndrome’.

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 12:09 AM

14. A Ghaelgannaire,Bhainfeadh siad an solas as do shúile. B’as BAC iad agus iad thart fá fiche bliain. Youth lives on hope and old age lives on memories.

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 12:10 AM

15. Cén aois a bheadh siad anois PH? ;-)

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 01:17 AM

16. Failte romhat go Eire Kevin Myres, cad as duit? sassanach druth !

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 01:19 AM

17. gaelgannaire, you can take it from me, when it’s the people in question, it usually IS all about me/you/other person who happens to enter the room.

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 01:35 AM

18. I used to have the language but lost in through 42 years of non-use.
    Pity.

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 01:37 AM

19. I apologise for not having been taught irish at school or since.

    i just wanted to participate in a discussion on a topic that i found interesting and asked for a translation of previous postings into a language i can understand.

    i will not make the same mistake again.

    maybe this is a microcosm of why some feel so alienated by the irish language movement, when someone trying to interact is accused of all sorts, in a language they don’t understand and so can have no right of response.

    what a pity

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 02:05 AM

20. Is trua nach mbionn diospóireachtaí anseo in Albainis Uladh - ansan ní bheadh aon deacracht gan Ghaeilge iad a thuiscint.

    Mothaím go raibh mé abhairín míchothrom ar Blue Hammer. Mo leithscéal faoi sin. Mar sin féin tá pointe ann - ní feidir linn gach diospóireacht a reachtailtear anseo a aistriú go Béarla agus is diospóireacht fánach é bheith ag caint ar an gceist: ar cheart dúinn nó nár cheart dúinn.  B’fhearr liomsa bheith ag plé leis an abhar seachas an meán.  Is mór an trua é go bhfuil claonadh i measc aondachtaithe áirithe bheith ag cumadh leithscéalta gan an teanga a úsáid agus a fhoghlaim agus a bheith ag iarraidh brú a chuir orainn tiontú ar an mBéarla.  Is é sin an ‘impiriúlachas’ ar a bhím ag trácht. 

    Is féidir liom a rá nár usáid mé an Ghaeilge riamh chun duine a eisiamh ó chomhrá.  Ach nílim chun geilleadh do bhrú tiontú ó mo theanga dhúchais ó dhuine ar bith. 

    Má bhionn an diospóireacht i mBéarla, scríofaidh mé Béarla.  I nGaeilge, scríofaidh mé Gaeilge.  Ba cheart go mbeadh sé sin mar chuid de pholasaí trachtaireachta Slugger ionas nach gcuirtear am amú ar an gcineal seo cainte.

    Posted by OILibhear Chromaill on Dec 04, 2007 @ 11:07 AM

21. Blue Hammer
    I too can not understand a word typed here except the occasional anglefied word. But personally i love to see the language and see if I can identify any patterns but alas i am lost

    But still dont care like I said iI like to see it

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 11:41 AM

22. Tagaim leat a Oilibhéir.

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 11:42 AM

23. Go raibh maith agat Shawn.

    You seem to realise we just communicate in Irish as that is our choice. It’s great to get the opportunity on Slugger to blog in as Gaeilge. I’m sure some of us would be able to translate parts of the discussion but the obviously incitant remarks from others certainly didn’t help.

    Tá a fhios agam nach mbaineann sé seo le Kevin Myers ach bhuail mé féin le cúpla cailín nuair a bhí mé ar saoire sa Spáinn roinnt blianta ó shin agus ó thar;a go raibh Gaeilge againn, réitigh muid go hiontach lena chéile, má thuigeann sibh mé!

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 11:49 AM

24. Is breá liom cailíní a bhfuil Gaeilge acu ag caint i nGaeilge agus muid i mbun ....!!!

    Sgoinneal!

    A chairde,

    Tá an t-am ann do chomhráití leis na frith-Ghaelaithe le rudáí a chur in iúl dóibh ach an chuid is mó den am, is é an rud is eifeachtaí a dhéanamh, ná neamhaird iomlán a thabhairt orthu.

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 11:59 AM

25. Ba ghnách liom Myers a léamh go minic nuair a bhíodh sé ag scríobh san IT.  Níor thaitin liom na rudaí a dúirt sé faoin Ghaeilge ná faoina lán rudaí eile, ach uaireanta bhíodh an ceart aige faoi rudaí áirithe, mar shampla drochbhainistiú na mbóithre.  Frank Mc Nally atá ina áit anois agus cé go mbíonn sé greannmhar go maith, stíl eile ar fad atá aige, ar ndóigh.
    Maidir le ceist úsáid na Gaeilge don scéal seo, cá mhéad uair a úsáidtear Gaeilge ar Slugger gan duine éigin ag teacht le rá gur dar leo go bhfuil an téama fíorspéisiúil ach gur mór an trua nach bhfuil siad in ann é a thuigbheáil srl srl? 
    Seans maith nach mbeadh suim dá laghad acu sa scéal dá mbeadh sé scríofa i mBéarla.  An scríobhann na daoine seo chuig gach suíomh gréasáin atá i bhFraincis, Gearmáinis, Spáinnis, Iodáilis, srl le gearán a dhéanamh gur spéis leo a bhfuil le rá acu ach gur mór an trua nach bhfuil an téacsa scríofa i mBéarla?

    Posted by  on Dec 04, 2007 @ 12:04 PM
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