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Thursday, January 25, 2007

It’s Londonderry - Official

The Derry City Council legal challenge to the use of Londonderry as the city’s official name has been rejected. The High Court has ruled the renaming of the Council 23 years ago did not change the city’s official name, granted in 1613.

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  1. Does this mean the slaughter of the people of Derry and Donegal following the Flight of the Earls was also legal?

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:01 PM
  2. JC,

    Derry is within the UK - their rules apply.

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:05 PM
  3. That’s the thanks you get for voting SDLP.

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:09 PM
  4. Dammit!

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:10 PM
  5. That outcome was a foregone conclusion.

    There are two ways to change the name of a city, and the way they went about it was not one of them…

    Now either they do it through legislation, or they go for the Royal Perogative, or just leave it as it is…

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:10 PM
  6. Spot on, Luggala,

    One has to wonder about the cop on of those that tried this on the basis they did.

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:12 PM
  7. It’s the pinpricks that will make Irish reunification inevitable, not the more obvious injustices but the dogged everyday refusal to listen to the public representatives of ordinary people.

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:13 PM
  8. I wonder how the next rates bills will look…

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:15 PM
  9. they can stick this ruling up their derry-eire
    der·ri·ère also der·ri·ere (dÄ•r’Ä“-âr’)
    n. French, behind, from Old French deriere
    The buttocks; the rear.

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:18 PM
  10. And this is the British justice system that SF want republicans to support?

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:20 PM
  11. why not call it County Foyle?? just a suggestion…

    Down, Armagh, Fermanagh, Foyle, Antrim & Tyrone

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:22 PM
  12. ‘And this is the British justice system that SF want republicans to support?’

    Yokel, the judge made the only decision he could possibly have made.

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:24 PM
  13. If they had started the legislative process back in 1984, this issue could have been resolved long ago.  23 years later they are back to square one…

    I’d love to know why this strategy was adopted - was there was an example of this happeing elsewhere that inspired them?

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:33 PM
  14. Undoubtedly in due course the Council will tell us precisely how much all this cost

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:34 PM
  15. Hurray!

    Posted by David Vance on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:38 PM
  16. Hurray!

    I do not know how counsel and solicitors for DCC ever thought that their argument had any legal merit to it whatsoever. 

    The council should be surcharged for this waste of ratepayers money.

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:47 PM
  17. ‘I do not know how counsel and solicitors for DCC ever thought that their argument had any legal merit to it whatsoever.’

    Who said they didn’t - I’m sure it wasn’t taken on as a ‘no win-no fee’ basis.

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:50 PM
  18. armoured cars and tanks and guns
    came to ..er..take away our name
    and everyone will stand behind
    the phenomenonal bill for lawyers being add to our rates

    yup, those sneaky jaffas oppressed us from beyond the grave by giving us roads, electricity, hospitals and a name we don’t have to use if we can’t be arsed to- and then explained to us the law which we didn’t listen to and ran off to court in a doomed pre-election stunt
    Perfidious Albion indeed

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:52 PM
  19. Unlucky!
    daffat- originally it was Co. Coleraine before those evil Brits took over and brought jobs, money and trade to you. Let’s go back to that if youse want something neutral for the county. But Londonderry it stays in the city- get the road signs changed back and we can all stop calling it Londonderry/ derry. especially the Beeb! It’s Londonderry -official!

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 03:59 PM
  20. Rumour has it that Bertie Ahern (formerly chief blank cheque signer for Charlygmagne Haughey) is planning to buy the entire Londonderry, annexing it into the Republic, and then changing the name in the Dáil to Derry. This is a bid to shore up his Republican credentials and will be part of the National Development plan…

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 04:03 PM
  21. Over the last 30 years a number of villages/small towns in Wales have changed their names or spellings from the old imposed versions to the originals. Eg Port Dinorwic is now Y Felinheli, Carnarvon is now Caernarfon. There have been heated debates about which version to use but it has always been up to the local council decide.

    I don’t understand why the Derry debate has go to a high court? Is it because the English queen decides what is a city?

    PS we’ve got lots place names with ‘Deri’ (Oaks) in as well.

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 04:09 PM
  22. The co-existence of Irish and British identities is the way forward. Therefore I have no problem with “Londonderry” being maintained. Its shows a respect for the unionist tradition, whilst any re-naming would further alienate an already marginalised local protestant minority. 

    It has been my experience that most protestants from the area call it Derry in day to day life, but use Londonderry in “official” correspondence/public discourse.

    Imagine Londonderry in a future federal Ireland with strong links to Britain. A beautiful thing!

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 04:10 PM
  23. ...as British as Finchley !!! yeah right.

    Posted by anonymous on Jan 25, 2007 @ 04:14 PM
  24. Huw yeah you might be changing names but at least londonderry’s flipping pronounceable!!

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 04:22 PM
  25. Another British Victory delivered by yet another Sinn Fein failure

    sinn fein buffoons will never learn

    Posted by  on Jan 25, 2007 @ 04:22 PM
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