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Friday, October 03, 2008

“if they chose not to abide by those democratic rules..”

After blocking the Northern Ireland Executive meeting yesterday, Sinn Féin’s Gerry Adams is in the US again, whether he’s still wearing his cookie monster watch isn’t clear..  And he’s been pointing, again, to an agreement that “falls a semantic mile short of a deadline”. From the SF press release.

Speaking last night in Cleveland the Sinn Fein President updated activists and supporters on the current crisis in the political process. Mr. Adams told his audience that “the current gridlock exists because the DUP has failed to honour commitments it made in the St. Andrews Agreement in October 2006. Specifically, the DUP has refused to agree a timeframe for the transfer of powers on policing and justice from London to the Assembly and Executive in the north.”

SF’s Conor Murphy was trying a similar, if less explicit, line last night on Hearts and Minds, to the bemusement of the DUP’s Nigel Dodds. Part 1 here.

The question remains, will failure to deliver what they promised others cause the Sinn Féin leadership to take the ball away walk out of the NI Executive.. or not?  We’re definitely not in May, after all. At the relevant Assembly Committee meeting on Wednesday, NI deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness claimed [possible paraphrasing] that he wouldn’t be “sitting in a corner in a huff..” Adds Whilst I think that quote is accurate, the BBC has this

“This isn’t something we are going to fall out about”, [Martin McGuinness] said. “I don’t believe we are people who are gong to give up on the process. We are going to continue to work to find a way through. “I don’t think that there is anything in either of us which is about to give up on these issues, they are difficult.”

Pete Baker @ 04:13 PM

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  1. Funny he didnt look to amused to me

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 04:52 PM
  2. Go Gerry, Go Gerry. Keep the Yanks reminded about how oppressed you people really are and they’re bound to forget about the economic meltdown.

    To infinity and beyond!!!

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 04:57 PM
  3. ......meanwhile back in N.Ireland, where Gerry should be instead of globetrotting, there ultimately will be procedure set out on how to devolve P&J;, but as for dates of completion, who knows, it took IRA/Sinn Fein 10 years to complete their decommissioning.

    It’s good to talk Gerry!

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 05:09 PM
  4. I thought Dodds was fantastic and completely ripped Murphy’s argument to shreads.  Very impressive, showed the complete stupidity of SF’s argument

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 06:25 PM
  5. IRA/Sinn Fein are unfit for government. They won’t even consider an ‘open agenda’ back to government.

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 06:42 PM
  6. UMh

    An open agenda was a smokescreen and Sf was too smart to fall for it

    dupers are going to have to man up, only thing for it

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 06:54 PM
  7. A smokescreen steve? who are you trying to kid?

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 07:04 PM
  8. Dodsie has talked the DUP further into a corner - cant see now how they are going to extract themselves. Looks like Stormo’s days are numbered with a Unionist veto on progress again - same old story.

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 07:05 PM
  9. Why don’t we get the Welsh to decide who’s in the wrong? They’ve got experience in devolution and the ins and outs of bringing it about.

    why not ask them who’s in the wrong or who oversold to who?

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 07:08 PM
  10. who have IRA/Sinn Fein oversold to? Is it the IRA or the people who voted for them?

    I can’t believe all the people who voted for IRA/Sinn fein are aware of their fuck up.

    Wake up people, IRA/Sinn Fein don’t make pledges for you, they make them for the army council. you the voter of IRA/Sinn Fein are being screwed and buggered.

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 07:20 PM
  11. Another amazing insight yawn from uhm.Sinn Fein only makes pledges for the army council?Is there fuck all for you to do in Cavan but dream up this shite?

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 07:39 PM
  12. Hi skullion, they aren’t fulfilling the wishes of those who voted for them. They’ve went on some other mission since they got the votes of the Irish people.

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 07:43 PM
  13. UMH
    Thought you said before there was no such thing as “The Irish People”.

    You do talk some shite!!

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 07:46 PM
  14. The people who voted for Sinn Fein would expect devolution of P&J;.Anything else i can help you with?Your homework maybe?

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 07:49 PM
  15. “Thought you said before there was no such thing as “The Irish People”.”

    that was in relation to all the peoples on the island of ireland being one. which I still agree with, there is no such thing as an Irish people. Let the nationalists twist it whatever way they want. who cares?

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 07:51 PM
  16. Sinn fein are trying to house train(in equality and inclusiveness)the dup.We all knew that it would be a difficult job but it is surprising everyone how low a base the dupers are starting from.It will take a long time but its not impossible is it!!!!

    Posted by blinding on Oct 03, 2008 @ 07:55 PM
  17. Please don’t go to bed yet uhm.I’ve obviously missed this before,and my apologies for that,but just explain your thinking that there’s no such thing as the irish people.

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 07:58 PM
  18. UMH
    “Why don’t we get the Welsh to decide who’s in the wrong? They’ve got experience in devolution and the ins and outs of bringing it about.”

    Good idea brains, sure why dont we get Dewi to flip a coin!

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 08:08 PM
  19. Sorry the abbreviation should be umh.It’s just i’m stressed about the possibility an entire nation has been misplaced.

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 08:09 PM
  20. Skullion

    They must have disappeared along with the other three counties from his homeland.

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 08:12 PM
  21. Guys

    Try to focus on the actual ball.

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 08:14 PM
  22. why you deleting posts?
    This topic is talked to death, there is a thread started by mick already, what new info is on this thread???

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 08:33 PM
  23. “if they chose not to abide by those democratic rules..”

    put it to them right

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 08:35 PM
  24. Sinn fein are trying to house train(in equality and inclusiveness)the dup...............

    blinding, Id be grateful if you could point out the inequalities that exist, please tell us which laws and rights apply to the DUP which do not apply to sinn fein

    thanks

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 08:37 PM
  25. Perhaps it would be to much to ask the Dup to explain why they won’t devolve P&j;.I think nationalists just want basic manners from unionists.

    Posted by  on Oct 03, 2008 @ 08:42 PM
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