Tuesday, July 10, 2007
From Rebels and Bandits to Criminals and Hoods
It’s no coincidence that Adams publicly met with PSNI Chief Constable Hugh Orde in Ballymurphy, known as a hotspot of the Troubles and where Adams’ Provisional career began. The symbolism of that shouldn’t escape anyone. Hot on the heels of the release of Operation Banner, the British Army’s take on how they neutralised the IRA, Conor Murphy, MP, is calling for the PSNI to crackdown on crime in Crossmaglen. It appears the choreography of Sinn Fein endorsement of the police is to pick off the symbolic areas of resistance one by one. Any wagers where next?
They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom
For trying to change the system from within
I’m coming now, I’m coming to reward them
First we take Ballymurphy, then we take Crossmaglen
Rusty Nail @ 06:38 PM
“In contrast his comments on Sinn Fein and the issue of policing carry accusations which are untrue and offensive. In addition Mr Reiss throws out unproven claims of lawlessness in nationalist areas. The fact is that the north of Ireland has the second lowest crime rate in Europe It is less than half of the average in Britain. There is no ‘rampant crime’ in nationalist or republican communities. On the contrary the nationalist and republican people are good, decent people who despite not having had a proper police service have remained law abiding. “
http://www.sinnfein.ie/news/detail/12473
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 12:00 PMChris,
I’ve been trying to get information on this story all morning. I found the Examiner’s website but no headlines.
Is there anyway you could supply me with details of what’s going on??
- There was always anti-social behavior in Cross, most of it due to drink or theft. In those days though, the threat of being dealt with severely was enough to discourage widespread/escalating anti-social behavior.
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 12:12 PMWhat do you want to know Niall?
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 12:18 PMCruimh
Surely you realise it could be possible for there NOT to be rampant crime 18 months ago but that there is rampant crime now? :-)A difference with the stickies is that no-one seemed to ask them to give up guns / held to account for their numerous crimes....... essentially with a few exceptions they haven’t been given the scrutiny the provos. Maybe understandable given the passage of time.
I agree with your scepticism re industrial wage though....
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 12:39 PMthey are such models of ascetic living Andy ;)
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 12:44 PMMcS
“If the PSNI have perviously been so capable, how do you explain the lawlessness in The Tullycarnett’s, BAllybeen’s and Rathcooles’ of this world then...”easy same comment with a few changes to proponents???
Surely this is just normal behaviour?? ( same as south armagh) who gives a flying fuck as long as it stays there. The areas citizens and representatives have encouraged a disregard for law for generations-its now biting them in the arse?? hahahahahaha--
PSNI stay out let them stew or maybe the uvf could organise another we bomb and clear the areaPosted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 02:20 PM“or maybe the uvf could organise another we bomb and clear the area “
That’s an outrageous comment.
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 02:35 PMcris
next time I am in South Armagh I will bring you a copy of Animal Farm, and maybe a DVD (from the local market!!!) of Star Wars. You have surely gone to the dark side.
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 02:36 PMHeck
Try living in the real world for a change!
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 02:48 PMMacswinney: “You frequently come on here and make lots of generalised points attacking anyone and everyone. The one thing that always seems to be missing though are your own actual beliefs. ie do you have the courage to state which party you support what your political idealogy is etc...etc…”
Why should I give you any personal details? So you can put an easy label on me. Or is this some sort of threat. So much for man not ball.
And you didn’t even bother to address the point: that both the dissidents and the leaders in the republican movement are raking in the cash - that the PBI died for.
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 03:32 PMCATCH 23 -
(OR, HOW THE NIO FUNDS UPHOLDING THE LAW IN SOUTH ARMAGH)
PSNI: We want to Police Crossmaglen
SF: We want you to police Crossmaglen
Crossmaglen: We want you to police CrossmaglenBut, there’s a catch!
Catch 23!
If everybody wants the Cross to be policed, there’s no need for any police at all as the community are now policing themselves. This will free up the remaining 6 operational PSNI staff not investigating themselves to do more outreach work on BME LGT’s or failing that nick the fuckers for using a phone while driving.
Problem solved
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 03:36 PMCG: And there was me thinking that the integrity of your quarrel remained intact. Wee Hugh needs people like you..
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 03:39 PM‘for what died the sons of RóisÃn was it greed? Was it greed that drove Wolfe Tone to a pauper’s death in a cell of cold wet stone? For what died the sons of RóisÃn was it greed?’
For what did Conto sympathisers and other apologists for mass murder write bad poetry? Was it an attempt to sound like Bobby Sands that drove them to inflict this shite on us on websites?
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 04:25 PMAnd there was me thinking that the integrity of your quarrel remained intact. Wee Hugh needs people like you..
What are you on about??
I presented cold hard facts to counter the absolute bullshit being spread about by certain posters on this thread.
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 05:55 PMreal world chris!!
I suppose Raymond McCreesh died so that SF could invite the RUC to police YOUR real world in South Armagh!!!
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 08:21 PMI suppose Raymond McCreesh died so that SF could invite the RUC to police YOUR real world in South Armagh!!!
Posted by heck on Jul 11, 2007 @ 08:21 PM
heck, why don’t you just record that last post of yours on tape, as a recorded message to play for any frightened pensioners from Cross or Camlough that dial “999” in an emergency? That should sort everything out nicely, at least to your satisfaction.
Posted by on Jul 11, 2007 @ 10:42 PMI will not be returning to this thread as its exhausted and therefore won’t be able to reply to any replies to my self indulgence.
Bye for now.
Posted by on Jul 12, 2007 @ 01:25 PMRights boys we’re runnin out of bad guys and if we don’t have bad guys we can’t be heroes. The people must be made to fear again...go down the list and find some bads guys… Brits- no, cops-no, huns-no, young fellas mm? yes we’ve got it by Jaysus we’ll save the people from the young fells..Brilliant
Posted by on Jul 12, 2007 @ 08:33 PM
