Sunday, March 16, 2008
Faith and the state
Interesting letter in the Sunday Times (pg 18 and here) which reads:
QUESTION OF FAITH: Can Catholics, in good faith, pledge allegiance to a Protestant monarch? I can’t see Pope Benedict sitting still for this one.
It’s certainly another angle to an already contentious issue.
Michael Shilliday @ 10:40 PM
Democratic
Naw! I hate Rome TW, I paid 30 quid for it when it came out. What a waste. Med TW/Viking invasion gold is the best.
Posted by on Mar 17, 2008 @ 06:09 PM“but why would the first and most important sacrament(baptism) be bypassed?”
Prince Eoghan, I did read a Vatican Ecumenical document a good while ago which stated it viewed baptism, as long as it was Christian, as a unifying factor. The Vatican had no qualms about what religion your were baptised in, it had issues with the way the Lord’s supper is performed and who performs it.
There might well be other technical hitches, but I suppose one could look at there decision as an easy way of converting Protestants, without the need for a new baptism.
Posted by on Mar 17, 2008 @ 06:10 PMI don’t think the fact that the Queen is unelected makes any difference to this issue. I wouldn’t swear an oath to the President of Ireland either. She works for us not the other way around. She is the one who takes the oath.
Posted by on Mar 17, 2008 @ 06:14 PMUMH
>>I did read a Vatican Ecumenical document<<
What happened, don’t tell me you were knocked back? Don’t converts read these things, frig me! otherwise you need to get a hobby. LOL! Like I say I am a good Catholic, which means I know nothing of ecclesiastical issue ;¬)
Very true Henry!
Posted by on Mar 17, 2008 @ 06:22 PM>>I did read a Vatican Ecumenical document<<
“What happened, don’t tell me you were knocked back? Don’t converts read these things, frig me! otherwise you need to get a hobby.”
I like to know what they’re planning next. You can always depend on the Vatican for a good story, there’s something new every day.
Posted by on Mar 17, 2008 @ 08:00 PMMary Queen of the Gael is the Mother of God, who looks over Holy Ireland not only on St patrick’s day but on all days. All regular readers of An Phoblacht would have seen her mentioned many times in the death notices (Of Volunteers, who died for Ireland, just as Jesus died for us)
The Catholic Church is the one, true, holy and apostoliic church and so we proclaim every Sunday. To equate the German queen of Britland (who gets poked by a Greek) to God or the Pope is blasphemous.
The Brits still keep FD on their coins. But the Fs are not of the right faith. Many of them are not even Celtic supporters.Britain is a sectarian state. Will Prince Charles, who wants to be a tampon, be head of the Harry Potty Anglican church and should we pray to him or his wife’s tampon? (if she still uses them).
Posted by on Mar 17, 2008 @ 08:14 PMExtra, what’s the need for the tasteless, sex-obsessed language ? You come across as a guy with issues, rather than with a point. Is that what Christianity is all about ? I didn’t think so.
Posted by on Mar 17, 2008 @ 08:47 PMToo much of the black stuff Extra Ecclesia, lol.
Posted by on Mar 17, 2008 @ 09:01 PMShe works for us not the other way around. She is the one who takes the oath
Exactly Henry! Well put.
Posted by on Mar 17, 2008 @ 09:17 PMHenry94: She works for us not the other way around. She is the one who takes the oath.
However, she’s not the only one:
http://www.thedukeofyork.org/output/Page4105.asp
Posted by on Mar 17, 2008 @ 09:49 PMThat’s interesting Reader. You learn something every year in the blogsphere.
Posted by on Mar 18, 2008 @ 12:22 AMThe Brits still keep FD on their coins. But the Fs are not of the right faith. Many of them are not even Celtic supporters.
Occasionally even trolls are funny.
Posted by on Mar 19, 2008 @ 10:52 AMMichael Shilliday with his orange pinnie on again.He learnt all this tripe from the cradle and furthermore he is a dissenter!!. To use our monarch and our country for cheap political point scoring is simply not the act of a gentleman. It is sheer naked triumphalism of the lowest possible type. Attitudes like this were a catalyst for the troubles and arrogant ill educated protestant twits fanned the flames with their point scoring sallies. Get a life, find a bird, and enjoy your youth. It only comes round once, and in the meanwhile start chasing skirt of all religous persuasions and down a few pints of stout whilst your at it.
Posted by on Mar 19, 2008 @ 07:37 PM‘Leave Ireland for the Irish, not for London nor for Rome.’
If only it were that easy…
But seriously, does this guy expect schools in West Belfast and South Armagh to do this too? What about all the Scottish and Welsh nationalists? One Britain, many cultures? Yer havin’ a laugh.
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