Tuesday, March 04, 2008
Edwin stumbles
Culture Minister, Edwin Poots, has admitted to refusing to attend every Irish language event he has been invited to since taking office on the grounds that he was “not a speaker of Irish.”
However, his lack of knowledge of the “wee dafty wean” lingo has not prevented him from attending five Ulster Scots events in his time as Minister. Before the Chinese, Polish and other ethnic minority groups rip up their glossy invites to the Culture Minister, his spokesperson did inform the Irish News that he decides “on each event as it comes in.”
In which case, I think we can safely conclude, it’s a case of “No Irish Need Apply.”
Chris Donnelly @ 09:35 PM
I suppose you’ll be having a dig at Aer Lingus and Ahern too, Chris ...
Posted by on Mar 04, 2008 @ 11:14 PM“wee dafty wean” lingo
I was under the impression that this was not actually Ulster Scots lingo and had been incorrectly associated with them, do you know something to the contrary?
Posted by on Mar 04, 2008 @ 11:27 PMWell said Chris, the Shinners wouldn’t have brought this up as they are in awe of their Unionist masters. Have you ever seen a party so transfixed as Sinn Fein are about the DUP? They are most definately the submisive, passive partner in this ‘coalition partnership’ bowing to DUP dominance and sabre rattling. McGuiness’s 2nd in command deputy performance is SO embarrassing to watch sometimes as he lives up to his Chuckle Brother Og public face. Before Paisley’s resignation declaration Martin often looked like a wee boy who knew his place beside Paisley. Poots bangs on about cultural recognition but the figures don’t lie. The DUP are determined to strangle the Irish language at the expense of a ridiculous non existant Oor Willie Scots dialect….....and Sinn Fein are compliant in it. They are so preoccupied with devolved British power and ministerial office that Republican ideals, Irish Nationalist identity and Socialist principles (Ask the classroom asistants and low grade low paid Civil Servants) have been surrendered. Sinn Fein are a right wing partitionist British party FACT!
Posted by on Mar 04, 2008 @ 11:44 PMgee a bigotted DUPe unionist…...whoda thunk it
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 12:08 AMPoots obviously harbours a deep resentment against Irish speakers, but I don’t think Chris covered himself in glory there either…
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 01:27 AMPete Baker has talked in the past (justifiably in my opinion) about a search for half-truth.
Here we have an analogous situation, a Semi-cultural Minister.Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 04:07 AMLURIG
I think you’ll find the source of the story was a Sinn Fein question in the Assembly of the Minister’s office.
BG
Poots obviously harbours a deep resentment against Irish speakers, but I don’t think Chris covered himself in glory there eitherNow, now, BG, are we getting all sensitive about something? Many unionists- and others- on this site and elsewhere have dismissed the notion of Ulster-Scots as a language, though it obviously is an important dialect.
My own cynicism about the language campaign does not mean I don’t respect the Ulster Scots culture, nor that I begrudge the money being provided to develop that culture- I think you’ll find Sinn Fein has been consistent in supporting such funding.
What is at issue is the fact that a Cultural Minister (or Semi-Cultural Ministes - thanks Joe!) has proved so incapable of confronting his obvious prejudices and antipathy of the Irish language that he won’t even attend an event.
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 06:07 AMIt’s an absolute disgrace that such an obnoxious bigot could be “culture” minister. Terrible thought that people vote for him.
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 06:26 AMI actually do begrudge public money flittered away on life support for dead languages and the pretentious promotion of regional dialects, but then I’m not Minister for Culture, Arts and Leisure. Is Poots _for_ anything of a cultural tone, or does it start and end with a stadium in his own constituency?
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 06:38 AMIts the young earth creationist thing, it prevents logical thought.
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 06:58 AMEdwin is truely representitive of this Assembly. Its a joke doing its best to look like a parliamentary body.
His reasoning for not attending Irsish language events is a joke. His inability to speak Irish certainly does’nt stop him talking shite.
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 07:19 AMHis inability to speak Irish certainly does’nt stop him talking shite.
Love it. Thanks ctb. LOL
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 07:30 AMIs minic a gheibhean beal oscailt diog dunta!
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 07:59 AM‘‘It’s an absolute disgrace that such an obnoxious bigot could be “culture” minister. Terrible thought that people vote for him.’‘
Lamentable indeed dewi. Far better to vote for someone directly involved in murder eh?
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 08:12 AMYou mean like Poot’s gun-running soon to be leader, or his soon to be ex-leader for that matter Gerry??
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 08:38 AMActually, in a strange way I have come to admire Poots. He simply refuses to play the game, to pretend.
I think I am on solid ground here when say that Minister Poots has nothing but contempt for the Gaelic language, I dont if he has much interest in the dialects of Scots in Ulster either by the way, I could say the same of a few others in the DUP, tha hie ne’er bein nane till spake nay braid at aw, nur ne’er weel ather.
He has openly stated on TV that he lists keeping ‘Irish language out of Northern Ireland’, refuses to meet any Irish speaker, refuses to attend any events. It is a ‘foreign language’ after all.
He will politically benefit from his stance of that there is no doubt.
Bigot, language facist, I feel personally that these terms fit easily with the minister, he is a simple man to my mind. His understanding of his brief is to keep Gaelic out, sin é.
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 08:43 AMI dont know about giving Edwin admiration but I try my best to understand his mindset and its worrying to say the least.
Ithink Edwin would possbibly view the whole aspect of the Irsh language movement in nightmare terms like this,
Failte romhait chuig an Culturlann, don’t you wonder
Traveling in a fried-out combie
On a hippie trail, full of Fenian zombies
I met a strange lady, she made me nervous
She took me to an Culturlann and gave me breakfast
And she said,
“Failte romhait chuig an Culturlann”
Where women glow, now don’t you wonder
Can’t you hear, can’t you hear the thunder? That’s equality
You better run, you better take cover.”She ate wheaten bread, Irish stew and sprouts from Brussels
She was six foot four and full of muscles
I said, “I don’t like you speaking that foreign language”
Se just smiled and gave me a shamrock sandwich
And she said,
“Failte romhait chuig an Culturlann” and I wondered
Is this where poitín flows and evil men plan Ulster’s downfall I wonder
Can’t you hear, can’t you hear the thunder? Its something called equality
I better run, I better take cover.”Lying in a Gaeltacht up around Ballymurphy
With a wicked leprachuan, and not much to say
I said to the woman, “Are you trying to tempt me
because I’ve got funding of plenty?”
And she said,
“Oh! Failte romhait a chara chuig an Culturlann” (oh yeah yeah)
Where women glow now don’t you wonder
Can’t you hear, can’t you hear the thunder? That’s equality
You better run, you better take cover.”Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 08:56 AMCD
So desperate to have a pop at Ulster-Scots you have to resort to repeating a fabrication. The claim that wee dafty weans was used to describe children with disabilities in a US translation was false and the BBC had to apologise about it.
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 08:57 AMfair-deal
the term you refer to actually appeared in the press in a job advertisment along with an eeky peeky which roughly translates into a researcher
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 09:03 AMcut the bull
No it didn’t - the term eeksie peeksie did appear in an advert used as a translation for equality. However the other phrase did not.
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 09:11 AMFD
So desperate to have a pop at Ulster-Scots you have to resort to repeating a fabrication. The claim that wee dafty weans was used to describe children with disabilities in a US translation was false and the BBC had to apologise about it.
I think Chris might have known that full well when he posted it.
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 09:14 AMCut the bull
From the Dictionary of the Scots language
DSL - SND1 EEKSIE-PEEKSIE, -Y, adj. On an equality, much alike, six and half a dozen (Ags. 1808 Jam.). Gen.(exc. I.)Sc. Also ix(e)y-pix(e)y (Abd. 1882 W. Forsyth Sel. from Writings 24; Per. 1902 E.D.D.); icksy-picksy (ne.Sc. 1909 J. Alexander in Abd. Free Press (19 Nov.); Abd.27 1949); ecksie-pecksie (Bnff. 1927 Mr Milne W.-L.); eeksie picksie; eiksupicksy.
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 09:20 AMWow that dictionary made a lot of sense did’nt it.
That made every thing a lot clearer in a muddy pool.Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 09:24 AMSo is Edwin a bit short of the Eeksie Peeksie when it comes to the Irish language then
Posted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 09:28 AMEeksie peeksie fae all
gab an tak a tha yin waeEdwin just in case your stuck the translation is below
Equality for all
dialogue is the only wayPosted by on Mar 05, 2008 @ 09:31 AM
