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Wednesday, March 10, 2010
Rumbles about MI5 accountability or the lack of it featured in yesterdays P&J debate. It was ironic that I was so absorbed in the debate that I forgot to head off to hear Eliza Manningham-Buller the former head of MI5 last night telling the Mile End Group that she had no knowledge of US torture in the interrogation of the British resident and Guantanamo detaineee Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. She gave this naïve sounding answer to a question I had intended to ask myself.
I said to my staff, Why is he talking? because our experience of Irish prisoners and terrorist was that they never said anything.
They said the Americans say he is very proud of his achievements when questioned about it. It wasnt actually until after I retired that I read that in fact he had been waterboarded more than 163 times.
So odd that she didn’t check it out more, if only because we’re always told that intelligence is so much more reliable if volunteered than given under pressure.
Is she to be believed? Unlikely that she would volunteer a direct lie, two years after her retirement. Ignorant because she was better off not knowing and didnt ask? The Guardians timeline shows how close to American interrogations she was, and yet the torture took her by surprise. MI5a record has been famously slammed in the Mohamed judgement and an MI5 officer is under police investigation. At the same time the agency’s effectiveness in thwarting several serious terrorist attacks is established. Its worrying that alleged attempts by MI5 to set up the Derry man Kieran Doherty as an informer may have contributed to his murder by the RIRA, although this might be only an excuse. Neverthess it reopens old wounds and revives old memories that are still raw. To achieve some measure of MI5 accountability, MLAs have three choices: to continue asking the PSNI in the forum of the Policing Board if the national security protocols are being observed; to join in pressing for more effective scrutiny by a beefed up Intelligence and Scrutiny Committee at Westminster to which it would be a shrewd move to appoint Mark Durkan ; or join the like of SFs Martina Anderson, who yesterday called for the removal of the poisonous MI5 from our country and leave themselves open to the charge of hypocrisy when they call for the defeat of the dissident republicans.
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As I said at the end of last year - Its still the experiment most likely to find more than a pair of WIMPy socks. If theyre really there… But it might take a little longer than expected. Belfast-born director of accelerators at Cern, Steve Myers, has told the BBC that the Large Hadron Collider, the world’s highest energy particle accelerator, will only be run at half-maximum power for 18 to 24 months before being switched off for a year to carry out improvements to the 27km tunnel - at which point maximum power collisions will be attempted for the first time. Although the CERN bulletin doesn’t appear to have heard the news, whilst the Director General portrays it as standard procedure. And if you missed it last night, you can catch another wondrous Horizon on the iPlayer - “Is Everything We Know About The Universe Wrong?” - on the ‘fixes’ to the standard cosmological model required to match the observable universe. Including the inflationary hypothesus, ‘dark’ matter, ‘dark’ energy, and, possibly, ‘dark’ flow.
From the BBC report
Dr Myers said: “It’s something that, with a lot more resources and with a lot more manpower and quality control, possibly could have been avoided but I have difficulty in thinking that this is something that was a design error.”
He said: “The standard phrase is that the LHC is its own prototype. We are pushing technologies towards their limits.”
“You don’t hear about the thousands or hundreds of thousands of other areas that have gone incredibly well.
“With a machine like the LHC, you only build one and you only build it once.”
And from Cern’s Director General, Rolf Heuer.
Two years of continuous running is a tall order both for the LHC operators and the experiments, but it will be well worth the effort. By abandoning CERNs traditional annual operational cycle were increasing the overall running time and discovery potential over the next three years. This run will be followed by preparations for 14 TeV collisions in a single shutdown and another major advance into new territory as great as the one we are on the threshold of achieving.
And, on the search for ‘dark’ matter, I can’t resist linking the Guardian’s interview with Brian Cox
G: Historically, we’ve often thought we’re getting close to cracking the secrets of the universe. Are we?
Brian Cox: I honestly think the wheels are coming off our picture of the way the universe works at the moment. We don’t know what 96% of the universe is made of that tells us that we don’t understand something fundamental. It reminds me of the start of the 20th century when quantum mechanics and relativity were about to appear.
G: We wouldn’t expect a dog to understand the mysteries of the universe, so why should we imagine that we can?
Brian Cox: It’s an open question, whether it’s too complicated. All you can do is point back to history to note that we’ve been successful on this reductionist journey up to now. But there’s no reason
G: Have you ever believed in God?
Brian Cox: No! I was sent to Sunday school for a few weeks but I didn’t like getting up on Sunday mornings. But some of my friends are religious. I don’t have a strong view on religion, other than illogical religion. Young earth creationism, for example: bollocks.
Heh.
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The Irish Times notes a selective approach to anti-smoking legislation by the Friendly Sons of St Patrick on Washington DC City Council. Washington DC city councillor Jack Evans, a member of the all-male Society of the Friendly Sons of St Patrick, pushed emergency legislation through the council last week to exempt the Sons annual dinner from the smoking ban which the council passed in 2006.
The Belfast Telegraph reports that “calls have been made for a specialist police unit to deal with dissident incidents”:
Sinn Fein Policing Board member Daithi McKay warned that peoples lives could be put at risk, and has called for a specialist unit to deal with difficult incidents.
These are dangerous situations, he said. We saw the threat when a device went off in Newry. It could have done a lot of damage and killed people in the area.
There is obviously public concern about police response times for some incidents, and there is a duty on the Chief Constable and the PSNI to look at these.
If the PSNI is unable to adequately respond to these incidents, then it is worth considering looking at a specific unit or specially trained officers to deal with such issues. That could lead to better response times and decrease the risk to the public.
In the hue and cry over the Jon Venables case, the assumption goes unquestioned that Denise Fergus the mother of murdered toddler Jamie Bolger has a right to know the details of Venables alleged reoffending. No one lightly crosses the mother of an infant murder victim, but Simon Jenkins is surely right to conclude that justice is a meal best served cold and as free as possible from public comment during the investigative and judicial process. To bow uncritically to Mrs Ferguss natural fears and demands is to deprive her of her own sense of wider responsibility. We live in a less deferential age when judges are no more treated like Gods than are politicians. Victims have been elevated to a new status and nowhere more so than in Northern Ireland, although their status remains unclear.
At the same time it is neither possible nor desirable to shut a family victim up. The gruelling campaigns of the Omagh families and the McCartneys may not have been successful but they uncovered much that would have remained hidden. Penny Holloways is a case in point where her brave and skilful campaign carried on to the highest level won a rare reappraisal of a decision not to proceed in the case of the murder of her son Thomas. In cases of deep pain and controversy, we can only proceed case by case and with minds as open as possible and with no grandstanding from politicians. While it is right that more heed is paid to victims than ever before, their demands should not be accepted just because they are victims. These issues should be considered even more carefully, now that Justice powers are about to be handed over. All the parties should be alive to the danger of turning cases into political footballs. They must question their own prejudices. The behaviour of politicians on the Policing Board sets a mainly helpful precedent. Justice is both what the courts say it is and what the public thinks it is. It is up to us all, not just the judicial process, to ensure that the two coincide.
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What is it about old UTV men, and politics? First Mike Nesbitt in Strangford for the UUP and now Fearghal McKinney in Fermanagh South Tyrone for the SDLP. No doubt about who has the harder task, Michelle Gildernew is a popular figure and clearly feels her time at Agriculture will stand her in good stead over McKinney. Still, he’s the first impact player the SDLP have managed to pull in from outside the political game for a party who’s public representatives generally lack just such qualities. His initial statement is below the fold:
“This is a new era for politics and a new era for the SDLP. This country needs a strong SDLP and the people of the North need strong representation at Westminster.
Today I have submitted my application to represent the party in the constituency of Fermanagh South Tyrone in the forthcoming Westminster election. This election will be won and lost on the doorsteps and I am keen to build on the good work of Tommy Gallagher and others in the weeks and months ahead. I know I have a fight ahead of me to win the seat but I am looking forward to the challenge.
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A year on from the killing of Sappers Mark Quinsey and Patrick Azimkar shot at Massereene army base in Antrim there is now incontrovertible evidence that dissident republicans have the capacity to do immense damage into the future. Two developments in dissident republican engineering have forced the police to reassess their approach.
The bomb at Newry courthouse was the first time since Omagh on August 15 1998 that a so called improvised explosive device actually detonated. And the second development which is worrying the police is the fact that so called under vehicle bombs are having a deadly impact as was the case in the bomb attack on GAA footballer and PSNI officer Peadar Heffron.
A similar device under the passenger seat of a car belonging to a police officers girlfriend in East Belfast was further evidence of growing expertise in the hands of dissidents. Does this mean dissident engineering skills are improving or has there been an influx of fresh personnel with real bomb-making skills? Neither of these two factors is mutually exclusive.
It has also been revealed that the Newry bombers had undertaken a dry run to the courthouse nearly a year ago in a huge disruptive exercise which paralysed traffic.
There is no evidence that security experts are seeing particularly new or original technology. What is shaking the police to the core is the fact that these -IEDS ( improvised explosive devices) are now detonating.
What is not clear is why rebel republicans are now having success after such a long period of botched operations like the device discovered not far from Ballykinlar security base in South Down. Again the bomb at the policing board headquarters in Belfast only partially exploded.
A former IRA activist who is totally committed to the peace and political processes is highly critical of some of the individuals known to him who are linked to dissident republicanism.
He pointed out it is not always easy to know the young people now involved because the IRA ended the war in 1994 when some of these people were only children.
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Eamonn Mallie @ 09:37 AM
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All news is local first, and for the record, that disappeared car, the BBC apparently got it first from the Cross Examiner… That’s a new one for the blog roll…
Mick Fealty @ 09:28 AM
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Tuesday, March 09, 2010
THE man who burnt a million quid and sprayed a toy machinegun at an unsuspecting Brits audience has been back to Belfast, to re-imagine the city. The wonderful Bill Drummond is no stranger to Northern Ireland, and I kinda wished I’d bumped into him, like Moochin Photoman did a while back. Drummond seems to have a genuine love for Belfast - he makes it sound like it’s really worth visiting. Oh well… maybe sometime. Click to hear the Radio 4 programme instead.
Belfast Gonzo @ 11:24 PM
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Worth noting that among the items the NI Assembly voted to remain reserved today is the “politically motivated” Serious Organised Crime Agency [SOCA]. Meanwhile, the Assembly and Executive Review Committee has published its second report on devolution of policing and justice [volume 1 here, volume 2 here]. Included in Appendix 4 are the “Agreements, Concordats, Protocols and Memoranda of Understanding underpinning the devolution of policing and justice matters”. Of particular interest, the national security protocols which NI Secretary of State Shaun Woodward had, for some time, resisted providing to the committee. You need to scroll down from here to find the relevant section - “Handling Arrangements for National Security Related Matters after Devolution of Policing and Justice to the Northern Ireland Executive”. 1. After devolution of policing and justice, the Northern Ireland Minister of Justice (hereafter referred to as the Minister of Justice) will be responsible for policing and criminal justice policy[1].The Secretary of State remains responsible for national security matters. The Transfer of Functions Orders set out in more detail what this means in practice in terms of the full range of functions which will devolve and the small number of functions which will remain with the Secretary of State.
2. It is recognised that national security related issues may touch on the responsibilities of the Minister of Justice. This protocol sets out arrangements for managing this issue so as to ensure that the NI Executive and the UK Government can each carry out their respective responsibilities effectively and that national security issues are properly protected.
Some further extracts of interest
What is national security?
3. National security relates to the safety and security of the state and its people. The protection of national security, and the carrying out of other related activities in the interests of national security, are in law the functions of the Security and Intelligence Agencies (SIAs”), accountable to Ministers in the UK Government.
General Principles
4. Constitutionally, national security is an excepted matter under section 4 of and Schedule 2 to the Northern Ireland Act 1998 (the 1998 Act”). It is not, therefore, among those matters devolved to the Northern Ireland Assembly.
5. Issues will arise within the transferred policing and justice field which have a national security dimension or which touch on national security related issues. Therefore, there will be a need for consultation and the sharing of information between the Secretary of State and the Minister of Justice. It is the responsibility of the UK Government to determine what information pertaining to national security can be shared and on what terms it is provided. Information which, if made public, might hinder the ability of the SIAs to perform their functions, or which might reveal the operations, investigations, sources, techniques or methodologies of the SIAs or of other agencies that use the same techniques or methodologies will not be shared. [added emphasis]
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NIO historic records
10. All records created by the NIO prior to devolution, whether they are held electronically or on paper files, remain Crown Public Records and continue to be subject to the Public Records Act 1958. The NIO therefore retains ownership of and control of access to all pre-devolution records.
11. To facilitate the smooth operation of the Department of Justice (DOJ), and to ensure good governance, the NIO will provide access for DOJ officials to those pre-devolution NIO records relating to matters that are now devolved that are necessary for them to carry out their post-devolution functions effectively. DOJ officials will have no access to pre-devolution NIO records that relate to matters that remain the responsibility of the UK Government, including records that relate to matters of national security.
12. For the purposes of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA), any pre-devolution NIO records that are held by the DOJ will be deemed to be held by the DOJ on behalf of” the NIO. Under the FOIA, information held by one public authority on behalf of another is considered, for the purposes of the Act, to be held by the originating body, and they are the decision making body. Therefore, when a person requests access to information held on pre-devolution NIO records that are on loan to the DOJ, it will be for the NIO to provide the response to the applicant and apply any exemptions or public interest test that might be necessary. [added emphasis]
There is an annex to the above Protocol - Arrangements for Managing Issues which are National Security Related or Which Have a National Security Dimension
1 Counter-Terrorism Policy and Legislation
1.1 UK-wide counter-terrorism legislation applies in Northern Ireland and remains the responsibility of the UK Government. In pursuance of that responsibility, the UK Government works with the PSNI and other agencies in the policing and justice field on issues relating to counter terrorism and other reserved or excepted functions.
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2 Contingency planning and crisis management
2.1 These matters are devolved. Northern Ireland Executive Ministers lead in the planning and government response to any event that does not involve a national security dimension. Where a crisis or public order situation is national security related, it remains the responsibility of the devolved administration to manage the devolved government agencies response in close liaison with the NIO which leads on any issues relating to reserved or excepted matters including deployment of the armed forces, co-ordination across national government, UK wide media handling and international implications.
2.2 The police operational response, including any request for military assistance, is a matter for the Chief Constable who has operational responsibility and is independent consistent with the arrangements in place between the Home Secretary and other Chief Constables. [added emphasis]
3 Policing
3.1 The Independent Commission[2] on Policing in Northern Ireland recommended that responsibility for policing be devolved to the NI Executive, except for matters of national security. Post devolution of policing and justice, the Chief Constable, while remaining operationally responsible, will be accountable to the Minister of Justice on all aspects of PSNI work save that he or she will continue to be accountable to the Secretary of State (representing the UK Government) for those aspects of the PSNIs work - past, present or future - that have a national security element or dimension. Where the practical consequences of this impact on the role and responsibilities of the Minister of Justice he/she will be given access to relevant information in accordance with the principles set out in para 5 above including through the arrangements which will be put in place for the Chief Constable to brief the Minister of Justice on the security situation in Northern Ireland. The powers and responsibilities of the Policing Board have not been altered as a result of devolution or of this document.
3.2 The Minister of Justice is responsible for the process of appointing the Police Ombudsman (PONI”) and for sponsoring his/her office (although the appointment is made formally by HM The Queen on the recommendation of the First Minister and deputy First Minister). In relation to all devolved matters PONI reports to the Minister of Justice. In relation to reserved or national security matters, PONI reports to the Secretary of State and the Secretary of State may issue guidance to PONI on matters relating to national security. [added emphasis]
And a final extract
15 Organised crime
15.1 Organised crime remains a PSNI operational lead and the established procedures for management of national security information govern the passage of information from the SIAs to the PSNI. As in other areas, devolved Ministers will have access to relevant information in accordance with the principles set out in paragraph 5 above [in the protocol] to assist them in the effective conduct of their responsibilities. [added emphasis]
Particularly important in a situation where “a good friend” may be involved…
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The last we heard from this blog, (not this, this blog but that this blog) before heading off to give his Ard Fheis speech was:
‘This Blog is now off to a small room in another building to spend a little time practising for this evening’s live event. Ill let you know how it went later.’
As yet this hasnt reported back on how or what it felt later. By the looks of things the feeling was good.
ADDS - this entry is now declared a caption contest Mick: Not it is not!
Mark McGregor @ 06:11 PM
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As a small aside to todays vote, Radio Ulster indicated current Independent MLA but Fianna Fail member Gerry McHugh, formerly of SF, voted to endorse the devolution of policing and justice.
Which yet again seems to run contrary to his declared reasons for leaving SF:
I feel the direction Sinn Féin is taking is more about appeasement of the British government and administrating British rule in Ireland rather than working towards the end of British occupation. Assembly structures support this - at both committee and plenary level unionists have majority control.
Mr McHugh said Sinn Féins decision to endorse policing in the north was a factor in his decision.
I have no difficulties with the idea of civil policing but I have a difficulty with the excessive amounts of MI5 and military spooks operating in the six counties, he said.
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The fact that the PSNI is being used by MI5 for political policing here should be a major concern for everybody here, he said.
Mark McGregor @ 05:49 PM
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The NI Equality Commission was highly critical of Derry City Council’s approach to attempting to officially change the name of the city from Londonderry to Derry and, in September 2009, “strongly advise[d] Derry City Council not to proceed with the policy as it is currently proposed”. That attempt stalled on Monday when the Council failed to agree what its next step should be. Sinn Féin and the SDLP are blaming each other for that failure - an Irish News report provides the detail. Members voted on two separate proposals - an SDLP plan to form a working group to discuss the name change and a Sinn Féin motion to petition the Privy Council to change the name. The SDLP proposal was voted down by Sinn Féin and the DUP. The Sinn Féin motion to change the name was defeated by the SDLP and the DUP. Both the SDLP and Sinn Féin accused each other of thwarting any name change.
SDLP councillor Helen Quigley said the Privy Council would have rejected any petition after considering the Equality Commission and Community Relations Council reports. However, Sinn Féin’s Kevin Campbell accused the SDLP of opposing the name change.
Adds I should have mentioned the bid to become the UK City of Culture…
With the vital passage of the motion this evening to transfer Justice powers from Westminster and new moves afoot to improve the workings of power sharing towards creating a shared future, the Assembly has taken its boldest steps towards creating political stability since the St Andrews Agreement in 2006. The motion was passed by a parallel consent majority of 88% overall, the unionist majority being 67%.
In the long debate stretching throughout the day, highmindedness was not always maintained. But all in all the Assembly rose to the occasion , although plenty of problems lurk just below the surface. The Ulster Unionists were cast as useful idiots, the butt of other peoples criticisms, being taunted with David Camerons pleas to agree , Sylvia Hermons alleged support for the transfer and reports of Ulster Unionist members murmuring in the corridors against their own leadership. The UU stance seems to have had the beneficial effect of quelling any remaining qualms among the united ranks of the DUP. Their case against transfer at this juncture was swept aside in a wind up speech from Peter Robinson which reasserted his leadership of the DUP and indeed of the Assembly itself. He summed up his own position by giving himself a pat on the back at the expense of a very subdued Sir Reg Empey:.
Northern Ireland doesnt need leaders who dither and dally but leaders who can stretch the imagination.
The baleful focus of Mr Robinsons attention was the Ulster Unionist minister Michael McGimpsey who had earlier told members:
We are here due to Sinn Fein blackmail… I understand the anxiety of the DUP when it comes to facing the electorate. In side deals there is something about the Irish language, an Irish civic forum and an all-Ireland parliamentary forum and on-the-runs what Gerry Adams calls a staging post… If a Justice minister needs to call in the Army, where will SF stand then? And where is Nigel Dodds?
This you have to admit, was quite a good question. But with an eye to his own voters, Mr Robinson set about Mr McGimpsey whom he bracketed with the the absent non-member and DUP apostate Jim Allister.
I support (the transfer) on the basis of the DUP manifesto of 2007, co-authored , voted for and campaigned on by Jim Allister
Mr Allister’s reference on the radio to the 2012 hurdle could not be disposed of quite so easily. Mr Robinson admitted that under D’Hondt, Sinn Fein could have chance of gaining Justice if they become the largest party ” but they will not become the largest party after the next election.” Clearly that’s a problem deferrred. It was easier to scorn Mr McGimpseys claim that SF would oppose any move to call in the Army to deal with the dissident threat.
Paragraph 2 of the National Security Protocol. Any request for military assistance is a matter for the Chief Constable who has operational responsibility and is independent. I hope that kills off this Ulster Unionist nonsense
Declaring that claims of side deals were claptrap he asked where do they get this nonsense? It is all complete trash.
Contrary to the claims of Sir Reg and Margaret Ritchie who led it, the First minister praised the achievements of the working group on improving the functioning of the Assembly, even though they had last night turned down an FMDFM offer not to oppose bringing to the Executive any measure supported by three ministers. But I make the offer again.
The pledge of a more open approach to the operation of the four party coalition suggests that Ulster Unionist and SDLP complaints are about to be taken on board, notwithstanding Mr Robinsons harsh words about the Ulster Unionists this afternoon. Hopes will be raised that the UUs will soon be able to climb down from the uncomfortable hook on which they have impaled themselves. This and the imminent publication of the Robinson/McGuinness version of the CSI document together with the passage of the Devolution of Justice motion appears to set the Assembly on a far more positive course - with the caveat that nearly all the details have yet to be worked out.
On the transfer of Justice powers, a lot of devil will be in the detail. For instance SFs Martina Anderson breathed fire against MI5 (malignant, poisonous; some parties want to make them part of policing and then blame us for rejecting it )
Now what party would that be? Surely not SFs sturdy partner?
In an impressive display of his credentials, the SDLPs thwarted Justice minister Alban Maginness laid out a full programme for the Justice Ministry that was so long he hadnt finished it by the time his five minutes were up. The list contained a charter of rights for victims, prisons ombudsman, reform of the prison service, a new womens facility and a new prison, new accountability for the PPS, a criminal law reform forum and reform of legal aid. He would have no trouble spending the full £1.3 billion, even before we pay for all those police officers with damaged hearing
In a thoughtful and notably non partisan contribution based on her grassroots experience of a multi-agency approach to the problems of North Belfast, SFs Cara Ni Cuilin declared that great strides had been made towards ending criminality but that gaps remained that will be plugged today. If SF proceeds along these lines the outlook will surely be encouraging.
Late in the day Sir Reg Empey rose suddenly to treat members to a milder version of the McGimpsey speech so savaged by Peter Robinson . He was heard in silence as he read out woodenly from a text. Inevitably he approved of the devolution of P&J, but not to this lot. We do not believe in transferring justice powers to parties that cannot agree on the transfer of children from primary to secondary schools
Th leaders have not had a single discussion about the dissident threat .or what to do when inevitable problems arise.
The SDLPs other champion of detail Alex Attwood derided Martin McGuinsess for professing joint working and erring on the side transparency. It is not joint working to exclude the SDLP.. and to do deals over the heads of the community on a shared future and parading.. Lets see the documents!
In fact Margaret Ritchie had told the Assembly during Questions earlier that the CSI document will be published on Thursday.
Towards the end of the debate the DUP’s Edwin Poots threw in a squib nobody seemed to notice.
Were getting rid of 50:50 (police ) recruitment at the end of the year.
Has he shared this with anybody else?
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Brian Walker @ 04:41 PM
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The NI tail of the UCUNF dog has gone against the Conservative party’s policy on P&J for NI. Sir Reg Empey has seriously embarrassed Mr Cameron, who is now seen both by Democrats and by Republicans in the USA as a dog who can’t control his own tiny tail. How long can UCUNF survive when its two component parties don’t agree on the biggest NI issue since the GFA? And how many more embarrassments is Mr Cameron prepared to endure?
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So P&J’s all done and dusted? No 4am tweets from @eamonnmallie? No sullen visits from Gordon and Brian?
The cup-a-soup vendor at Hillsborough has got to eat, you know?
The BBC pick up on an RTÉ report that “Gardaí have arrested five people in Waterford and two others in Cork in connection with an investigation into a conspiracy to murder a Swedish cartoonist”, Lars Vilks. According to the BBC report all seven arrested are Muslims, while RTÉ adds - “Those in custody are originally from Morocco and Yemen, but it is understood they all have refugee status and are legally in the country.” From the RTÉ report A garda spokesman said the operation was part of an investigation into a conspiracy to murder an individual in another jurisdiction. Members of the Garda National Support Services and the Special Detective Unit were also involved in this morning’s operation. Gardaí say they are working closely with police forces in a number of other European countries and in the US. The seven people arrested this morning range in age from their mid-20s to their late-40s.
Update from today’s Irish Times Detectives in Ireland have been working on the case since late last year with their counterparts in the US and Europe, including Sweden. Those arrested yesterday are from Algeria, Croatia, Palestine, Libya and the US. They are aged in their mid-20s to late-40s. The Irish Times understands the suspects were taken into custody on the basis of information supplied to the Garda by the FBI that came to light after surveillance of the suspects communications, including e-mails.
The President of East Timor Timor-Leste, José Ramos-Horta, has been forthright in his views of his own countrys justice truth and reconciliation process - and revelatory about past attempts at international collaboration between paramilitary groups. In Dublin on an official state visit to Ireland, he’s been offering some lessons for those keen to export The Process abroad. From the Irish Times report “It is not like academics or some western donors or the UN who think that if you finance a few workshops and write a report you have contributed to peace,” the Nobel peace laureate told The Irish Times . “I have seen so much money wasted by donors on peace workshop after peace workshop. It is much more than that. It is meeting with families and with the victims day in, day out; it is finding jobs for them; providing them with training, with funding to create jobs; creating hopes and a future for them. “Peace-building is not based on workshops or UN evaluation missions who descend on our country every three months to do an evaluation. These are wasteful exercises.”
And he repeated his rejection of the pursuit of “post-conflict justice”
Dr Ramos Horta was equally scathing about the issue of post-conflict justice in the Timor-Leste context. “When it comes to , everybody wants to do some experiment on democracy or justice. I simply say no,” he said. “The midget intellectuals who regurgitate academic jargon about justice can go on and on dispensing academic judgments on poor little us, but my people, whom I know well, they applaud the wisdom of my policies that is: heal the wounds, reconcile, and move on . . . I am not going to play Don Quixote de la Mancha of justice to pursue every seen or unseen culprit of the past.”
As the Irish Times report also points out
Timor-Leste was designated a priority country by Irish Aid, the Governments overseas development division, in 2003.
From 2003 to 2009, Irish Aid provided more than 30 million towards poverty reduction programmes and projects aimed at strengthening governance, human rights and public service capacity. The Department of Foreign Affairs also engages with Timor-Leste through its conflict resolution unit.
One hopes, for the sake of the people of Timor-Leste…
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The person from Mars or the US congressman actually present will take a lot of heart form the level of agreement in the Great Debate on transferring Justice powers. No hint of a crisis atmosphere and hardly a sticky point has been raised so far. But are the DUP benches as full as they should be? The UUs provided a useful target of mild abuse to conceal the high level of consensus, even from them - in principle. It was DFM Martin McGuinness who moved the historic motion but where was Peter Robinson? Is he going to wind up later?
McGuinness wasted far too much time attacking UUs rather than say, pledging SF support for operational policing decisions.
Ulster Unionist Danny Kennedy, flanked by a mute Sir Reg, decided the best means of defence was +attack and gave us quite good knockabout. Where were the DUP MLAs missing form their own benches, the abominable no-men, whose opposition may melt away in the early spring sun? For those with long memories, Justice minister (putative) David Ford of the Alliance party was the Joe ( I buy anything ) Kavanagh of Stormont. Yesterday when Danny and friends were ordered out of the DFMs office it was not a case of a Shared Future.. or Makeover Martin but Martin of the Bogside.
Alex Maskey was relaxed about UU opposition In practice, they were among among the many on all sides who were working the policing system 24 hours a day .
Groans on either side of him greeted Alliance leader David Ford himself as he rose to his feet. He made the cardinal mistake of drawing attention to them. He chose not to address the attacks on his own presumed candidacy for office, perhaps saving that for later. But it left him with little to say that anybody wanted to hear and therefore sounding sanctimonious, to more groans.
Ian jnr made a bold bid to steady DUP nerves by trying on the mantle of statesmanship even treating us twice to his key soundbite to make this House noble instead of a House of ridicule.
But it was SDLP leader Margaret Ritchie, voting for the powers but sounding as opposed to them as the UUs, who made the most substantial speech. She slated the SF for dissembling that they had won DUP agreement to devolve Justice powers at St Andrews, compounded by the governments who allowed the claim to go unchallenged. The Hillsborough agreement was “unclear, uncertain and unhelpful and - ominously-
we may be turning the clock back on parading.” On the secondary agenda of making the Assembly work better she was as sceptical as Danny Kennedy. The working groups? Going nowhere fast The FM DFM Cohesion Strategy report? She wasnt allowed to see it. Is this the right way to run a four party coalition?
A couple of procedural points. A major debate like this is severely cramped by over-tight time limits even on main speeches. No doubt standing orders were laid down to cut down on argybargy but this is far too short for a debate of this kind and restricts the number of interventions which are key to genuine debate.. On major occasions 20 minute speeches should be allowed by main speakers for each party and 10 minutes from the backbenches rather than five.
Chair Jimmy Spratt announced the third and final report of the Assemblys Executive review committee on the nuts and bolts of transferring Justice powers, a solid piece of work greatly to its credit. A harbinger of better things to come, its to be hoped. Back after lunch
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Owen Polley argues in the Bel Tel that Tories respect our position in the UK. Im sure they do, but do they do it in the same way as the UUP? Not over the touchstone issue of devolving Justice they dont. They want devolution completed to stabilise the Assembly and are embarrassed by the micro-politics of intra-unionist rivalry. UUs risk getting the worst of all possible worlds by confusing voters who stuck with them through the hard times of the first Assembly and who arent impressed by a little shake of ( tarnished?) Cameron stardust. Campaigns in favour of Labour and Conservative representation at Westminster are decent, democratically inspired and well intentioned but they suffer from mixed motives and a lack of clarity. All Uncunf may have achieved is to embolden the UUs to negativity at Stormont with no gain at Westminster. Cameron is covering all bases and chasing every potential vote for a hung Parliament. Beyond the presumed tactics, the Conservatives failure to explain what a more forward unionist policy means for Northern Ireland in the medium term is a serious error. It is a politically motivated exaggeration to claim that the Conservatives are threatening the stability of the GFA but they are behaving as if the point has never occurred to them. They are either being disingenuous or profoundly ignorant. It is not enough to say why shouldnt we ; they have to explain why they should in this divided polity which is only very shakily finding its feet. The Conservatives now find themselves being blamed for making destabilising gestures at a very sensitive juncture in our politics and exposed as impotent with their new found partners. We can be sure that they will pay careful attention to the noises from Washington however egregious these may seem at home. If you were David Cameron, who would you listen to more - Hillary Clinton or Reg Empey?
Two articles worth reading - in Monday’s Irish Times the Tasc / progressive-economy folks had an article published that attacked the government’s approach and outlined their favoured alternative (largely tax rises & increased government spending). Yesterday evening Constantin Gurdgiev responded with a masterful demolition of their arguments.
All the wrong options have been pursued
28 Alices in Wonderland of Tasc economics
[Update : Nat O’Connor’s response to Dr. Constantin Gurdgiev]
Quote from Constantin Gurdiev’s article..
Equally damaging have been the cuts in public investment at a time when private investment has plummeted. This has laid the foundations for a low-growth, high-debt future where unemployment will remain high and inequality endemic.
One can relate to this statement. The problem is that while some of the cuts were to productive investment, the real error of the Government policy has been the lack of systematic approach to assessing the value-for-money of various projects and freezing or canceling outright the ones that do not yield sufficient returns. For example, parts of road building programmes relied on the outdated and often utterly unrealistic expectations of development in remote locations. Binning these investments is ok they are the luxury we cannot afford. Ditto for Metro North which in its current incarnation is a White Elephant.
Another highlight - the Tasc approach seems to involve having our cake and eating it too. I.e. A roll-back of any spending cuts along with an increase in capital spending. Gurdgiev argues this isn’t possible & given the Greek Socialist Party are now implementing cuts does anyone seriously agree this is possible within the Eurozone?
The authors do not understand that increasing consumption by borrowing at 5-6% per annum to give the money to our welfare system and to pay public sectors obese wages is taking money out of investment. Instead, they seem to think that both: welfare payments increases and public sector wages can be sustained while increasing state spending on capital projects.
So do the simple additions. To maintain NDP investment at previously planned levels, on top of the current budget deficit we will need some odd 6-7 billion more. To return welfare payments to their 2009 levels, and to reverse pay cuts in the public sector and reductions in employment there, we will need additional 3.4 billion. These are all net of receipts. So the Exchequer will be borrowing some 29 billion this year - 18% of our GDP. What would the Greeks say with their current 12.7% GDP deficit and heading for 10.7%?
Update: Although in fairness to the Tasc position GDP would be higher under their expansionary route and thus the deficit may not quite scale the heights of 18%.
Philip Lane also has a response on Irish Economy.ie
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Monday, March 08, 2010
Hmmm… and that is news? I’ve been puzzled ever since reading this OdEd in the New York Times last week... Slugger’s understanding that the meeting with the dFM this afternoon (called at the request of the dFM) went roughly like this… (note this is a paraphrase, not precise reportage)...
dFM - so where are we at?
Danny Kennedy - un-helpfulness of the “3 days to sort themselves out” comment at the weekend.
dFM - UUP dug a hole for itself and kept digging. UUP are now anti-Agreement.
Michael McGimpsey - UUP negotiated the Agreement and committed to powersharing.
dFM - Internal unionist in-fighting is threatening the institutions. All UUP media appearances mentioned dysfunctionality. Nolan loves that.
Empey - We are not anti-Agreement.
dFM - (rehearses an anti-Agreement argument.)
FC - We are not here to be lectured by you.
dFM - Then leave. (Shouted.)
Hmmm… I have to confess that I don’t get this. The DUP have been bending over backwards to get the UUs on board, even though the vote will go through tomorrow without any real controversy. Even George Bush has been dragged out to appeal to David Cameron not to wreck a deal tht the UUs are simply not in a position to wreck…
As they pointed out on the Now Show, political impotence is the order of the day from Washington to a post election Westminster government. And it really matters that the UUs don’t buy the functionality of the current arrangements at Stormont?
Not convinced it does…
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We’ve now had former US President George Bush Jnr [reportedly at the instigation of US economic envoy to Northern Ireland, Declan Kelly], and Ian Paisley Snr join in the campaign by, amongst others, Sinn Féin’s Martin McGuinness and the NIO and NI Secretary of State Shaun Woodward, to try to pressurise the UUP into toe-ing the DUP/SF party line on tomorrow’s vote on devolving policing and justice powers. Nice to see old comrades working together again… To, apparently, little effect… The Ulster Unionist executive has endorsed the party’s decision to vote against the devolution of policing and justice powers to Northern Ireland.
Adds I think it’s worth adding a comment I made below
I’ve noted the US involvement here previously.
And it has been positive at times.
Particularly when they had leverage over certain parties.
But my feeling is that, this time, they’re being mis-briefed by other players.
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The Guardian has an inside splash on an historical project that will keep the more obsessive among us in ammunition for years. Ever since 1641 Protestants Great Fear that Catholics will suddenly rise up and slaughter them has been part of the psyche. As Jonathan Bardon puts it, the sworn statements were written partly to justify the massive confiscation of land held by Catholics. But the fear has never left Protestants, sometimes with good cause, just as Catholic resentment at the land grab persists to this day, perhaps most vividly in Fermanagh. 1641 had a later significance. As Home Rule was emerging as a policy in the 1880s, 1641 controversy featured strongly in the politically polarised battle between the historians Froude and Lecky. Froude believed that history showed that the Irish, although they could be charming, were basically bloody minded and unfit for self government.
JA Froude
there had been, was and ever will be but one way of governing Ireland, by putting authority exclusively in the hands of men of personal probity.. and loyal to the English connection.
WEH Lecky an Anglo-Irish liberal unionist, declared his greater objectivity
No one else in Ireland can supply the antidote ( to Froude).. for I have the ear of the English
and am one of the very few persons in Ireland who are not under the influence of an overpowering craze..
Extracts from Owen Boycott in the Guardian
The 350-year-old writing is barely legible, the spelling across 19,000 pages of text erratic. The events they chronicle, however, poisoned Anglo-Irish relations for centuries, focusing attention on atrocities inflicted predominantly by dispossessed Irish Catholic rebels on Anglo-Scottish, Protestant settlers. The barbarities are still emblazoned on Orange Order banners and loyalist murals in Northern Ireland.
Professor Jane Ohlmeyer, one of the principal investigators at Trinity, believes that new language analysis methods will allow the documents to be explored “in a way we couldn’t have done 10 or 15 years ago during the Troubles”.
The rebellion, which broke out in October 1641, was a significant moment in the formation of identity in Ireland, she told the Guardian. Estimates of the numbers killed vary from 4,000 to up to 200,000. It began in Ulster but spread across the country. The depositions were ordered by government commissioners, many of the Church of Ireland clergymen, who recorded the victims’ testimonies.“They did it in the hope of obtaining evidence against the rebels and also as a crude form of insurance claim against lost property,” Ohlmeyer said
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Contemporary historians verdict on 1641
Modern Ireland 1600-1972 Roy Foster pps 85 86 What people thought of that bloody autumn conditions events and attitudes .. for generations to come.. But the reliability of those accounts must remain suspect.. These resemble a pornography of violence and the may indicate more about contemporary mentality than actual massacres
But there is more than enough evidence to indicate the horrific suffering of non-combatants.
A History of Ulster Jonathan Bardon pps 137-138
Irish historians have been reluctant to accept these depositions as having any value.. Certainly much of the evidence is fantastic, exaggerated and even salacious.. but some of the statement are supported by other evidence.
Wrap up...
Is the Northern Ireland First and deputy First Ministers’ commissioned poll [At what cost? - Ed] any more rigorous than the NIO’s? Who knows? The questions certainly don’t appear to be. As spotted by “thedissenter” in the comments zone here, the polling company chosen, Red Circle Communications, was set up in 2007 by former head of communications for the Scottish Labour Party, Steven Lawther. The polling report, dated 4th March, is here [pdf file]. BBC NI political editor Mark Devenport finds something of value in it. That said there is some interesting stuff in the OFMDFM survey about people’s desire for the First and Deputy First to work together, and the gap between this aspiration and how well people think the Executive is doing its job. Additionally less than half those interviewed felt well informed about what the Executive is doing (maybe that’s my fault!)
Heh.
Mark also points out something to keep in mind if you’re going to take seriously what Shaun Woodward had to say about “those who had indicated support for the UUP” - he hadn’t anything to say about any other parties.
There have long been doubts about the reliability of NI polls when it comes to voting intentions and this is maybe born out by an equally surprising set of low figures for Sinn Fein in comparison to the SDLP. I don’t know how many people in the NIO commissioned survey declined to answer, but I gather that in the OFMDFM poll 26% of those who were interviewed over the phone refused to say which party they backed, whilst 13% gave no affiliation. [added emphasis]
So, as ever, a note of caution. But these are the figures given me unofficially.
NIO commissioned poll
DUP 26%
SDLP 21%
TUV 1%
PUP 1%
SF17%
UUP 14%
Alliance 8%
Green 4%
Conservative 2%
Workers Party 2%
RSF 1%
UKUP 1%
OFMDFM Commissioned Poll
DUP 30%
UUP 19%
SDLP 19%
SF 16%
Alliance 11%
TUV 2%
PUP 1%
Others 3%
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