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Thursday, March 11, 2010
The story posted with above title on Slugger O Toole has rattled many cages.
Responding to the narrative Jonathan Caine said:
“Both David Cameron and Sir Reg Empey made clear on Tuesday afternoon their one hundred per cent commitment to the continuing partnership between the Conservative and Ulster Unionist parties.
“We remain determined to bring national mainstream politics to Northern Ireland and to end its semi detached political status.
“The person identified (in earlier post ) is not an official spokesman for the Conservatives and does not speak with authority of the Conservative Party.”
No one should doubt the standing or integrity of the individual quoted in earlier post.
As you can see Mr Caine was clearly not the author of those quotes in the earlier post on Slugger.
I do my best to be fair.
Eamonn Mallie @ 02:40 PM
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The last time Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva involved himself in matters Irish was sending a message of congratulations to Ahern and Blair on the return of Stormont:
President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva has sent messages congratulating the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Tony Blair, and the Prime Minister of Ireland, Bertie Ahern, for the commitment of both Heads of Government during the long process of negotiation that culminated in this historic moment, which is both an example and a source of inspiration for other regions in conflict in the world.
Now in an interview with AP while supporting Cuba over the death of Orlando Zapata he has raised the issue of Irish Hunger Strikers and criminality and rejected the legitimacy of a tactic he once engaged in:
“Look, I don’t think a hunger strike can be used as a pretext for human rights to free people. Imagine if all the criminals in Sao Paulo entered into hunger strikes to demand freedom.
We have to respect the decisions of the Cuban legal system and the government to arrest people depending on the laws of Cuba, like I want them to respect Brazil, like I want to respect what the United States does to comply with its laws.
But it’s not just in Cuba that people died from hunger strikes. Everybody knows what happened in Ireland. How many people of the IRA died on hunger strikes? I see many people today criticizing Cuba for causing a death, and they said nothing about the deaths of the IRA. It’s as if it were a normal thing to die in Ireland and not normal for people to die in other countries.
I would like that it hadn’t happened. But I cannot question the reasons why Cuba arrested him just like I don’t want Cuba to question me about people who are arrested in Brazil.”
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Mark McGregor @ 12:54 PM
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Here’s the fixtures:
Saturday:
Ireland v Wales, 14:30
Scotland v England, 17:00
Sunday:
France v Italy, 14:30
Here’s Vincent Hogan in Monday’s Irish Independent:
Sour Gatland can’t get over Irish allergy
Nice:
“Gatland has a problem with Irish rugby in the way Michael O’Leary has a problem with the Dublin Airport Authority. He feels that business between them has been soured by a toxic, personal agenda which, I’m afraid, makes him snappy as a menopausal warthog.”
Funny - but this I found strange:
“One of the unexplored stories of last year’s Grand Slam game in Cardiff was the flaring unpleasantness in the Millennium Stadium stands. Ordinarily, international rugby crowds steam along amiably together, everyone florid with alcohol, but generally agreeable.
In Cardiff, the vibe was different. It was palpably sour. In maybe 15 previous visits for Wales-Ireland games, I can never remember a more menacing, confrontational vibe in the city.”
I was there - didn’t get that vibe at all to be honest:
Anyway below the fold…...
Brian may be correct to identify the NI Assembly vote to devolve some policing and justice matters, whilst continuing to reserve others, as a missed “golden opportunity” for the UUP and the SDLP. But it is not perverse to argue, as Malachi O’Doherty does There are two ways of looking at politics. Many see the peace process as a greater good which must be served at the expense of all other political considerations. That argument had greater weight when the danger remained high that the IRA leadership would end its ceasefire and start killing and wrecking again to get its way.
But the principle appears to survive in the minds of many, perhaps most, that talking and agreeing must continue because these are good and bring us closer to reconciliation between estranged communities. Many who endorse this way of thinking fail to see the lazy, unpolitical nature of this perspective.
Continued
The peace processors, on all sides, have long appealed to history. Tony Blair felt its hand on his shoulder. Sinn Fein often said that parties opposed to power-sharing were on the wrong side of it.
Bill Clinton often quoted Seamus Heaney’s line which said that it might rhyme with hope. And we have been inspired by the experience of South Africa as a country which could rise above old animosities.
Sir Reg Empey has effectively said hooey to all that. He wants to play politics by the old rules, in which it is a competition between parties, all seeking to maximise their influence and their votes. He is right. Or, at least, if he is wrong, he has little alternative.
For what he is being asked to do, in the interests of peace and love and shamrock dancing in the sunlight among the orange lillies, is to serve as a rubber stamp for every decision of the coalition of Sinn Fein and the DUP.
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A senior conservative is warning the UU/Tory alliance is in danger of collapsing. This shaky relationship has been threatened on the back of the decision of the Ulster Unionist Party to defy the wishes of David Cameron and his party on policing and justice. A local conservative levelled the following charges at the Ulster Unionists:
• Failure to agree candidates.
• Failure to co-ordinate policy.
• Failure to be accountable.
The Conservatives claim they are bankrolling everything but are in ” a one way marriage with nothing coming back.” Claiming they have no influence over decision -making in Ulster Unionism the Tory spokesperson said: “The Conservative party’s fear is that we will be dragged down into the gutter of tribalism instead of Northern Ireland politics being elevated onto the national stage.”
Conservatives argue they are going to end up with only one candidate out of eighteen-North Down. “The policing and justice decision has put the relationship under strain. Conservatives do not believe Ulster Unionists were right in voting against the return of policing and justice” said a spokesperson.
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Eamonn Mallie @ 10:56 AM
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It is, perhaps, symbolic that, rather than attending Sinn Féin’s Irish Unity Conference in London, David Adams, Martin McGuinness, et al, found themselves stranded on a Belfast runway in an ice-bound Aer Lingus jet. It meant they missed Paul Bew’s contribution to the debate. And in the Irish Times today David Adams, belatedly, has his say It is often forgotten that unionists are not the only ones who need to be attracted to the idea of a united Ireland. The people of the Republic must endorse a unitary state as well. It has always been taken for granted that they would jump at the chance of reunification with the North, but it would make more sense if in fact they preferred to stick with the existing arms-length relationship.
Whatever its faults, the Republic is settled, cohesive and self-contained. Why on earth would its people want to gamble all in some new dispensation with nearly two million troublesome Northerners most particularly if it were the case that a substantial number of their erstwhile neighbours were being dragged into something against their will?
Maybe republicans arent rocking the boat in the South because they realise that the people there arent any keener on a united Ireland than unionists are. Perhaps for the citizens of the Republic too, the Belfast Agreement is in fact a settlement.
Good columnists thrive on perversity but this time, Malachi strains his case by claiming Reg Empey was right to launch a kick at the (DUPs) groin in opposing P&J on Tuesday. But even he admits:
Empey has made bad calls: appearing some of the time to want to draw closer to the DUP at the instigation of the Orange Order and squandering his only MP by forming an alliance with the Tories. But this call was his and he had the right to make it and he is not a failure as a politician or a human being for putting party interest first; that is his job.
How it was putting his own partys interest first to stand alongside the TUV beats me. And was that a kick in the groin? All Reg launched was not a kick in the groin but a gentle tap on the DUPs shoulder to remind them to protect their own flank and stay united. Now I admit that in the debate, it was genuinely touching to hear UU and SDLP speakers claim credit for the heavy lifting that made devolution of the powers possible, police reform and the institution of the Policing Board heading the list. But politics has moved on. The extremes have parked their tanks on the old lawn the UUs and the SDLP uneasily shared. The completion of devolution exposes their joint problem even more starkly, but it can be exaggerated. If there isnt room for more than two parties in a 108 member Assembly elected by STV, the others have only themselves to blame. How do they make progress?
One way is to make common cause on key issues of the common good. Each party can make a convincing case for this electorally rather than consign common causes to the level of platitude in the peroration of speeches. The Assembly vote was an opportunity missed. Had the UUs and the SDLP tabled a joint amendment or moved a separate resolution to make it an issue of confidence to create a three party veto on Executive business, it would have been bold move towards creating a platform of the centre. As it is, Robinson is actually offering concessions on this although no one seems to have noticed. The problem is, there is no real common cause in the centre. While the UUs and the SDLP unite to condemn the schools transfer deadlock, they are divided over selection itself. Again, Edwin Poots told the Assembly that the DUP were going to abolish 50:50 police recruitment before the end of the year. The UUs and SDLP will presumably split on that. Even on a shared future, they risk being outflanked by the DUP and SF. Is it any more than a slogan? Where is the joint case that each side benefits and can appeal to their separate electorates on that basis? To forge a real political role for themselves the UUs and the SDLP will have to do more than gurn. What young voter cares which unionist shafted whom a decade ago? Or which nationalist is the greener over a Derry/Londonderry name change? For as long as the parties believe in their hearts that identity politics win in every case, the centre parties will always lose out.
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Brian Walker @ 09:56 AM
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If any of you are going to be in London tomorrow, you may want to round the day off with a trip to the 12 Bar Club in Denmark Street (a short walk from Tottenham Court Road tube) to see Mid-Ulsters very own Cormac Heron performing Iris Robinson The Musical
Now Iris is no longer in public life, Cormac anticipates her possible relocation into showbiz (or possibly the catering business) with his latest musical spectacular.
From what I can glean talking to him, the material isnt all based on Iris or her story, its a jumping off point for a fictional pre-St Patricks Day banjo-based cabaret. But if the idea of a banjo-based musical don’t make your blood run cold, then it’ll probably be worth a look-in?
Tickets are £6 and Cormac is on stage at 8.04pm. If you’ve got a Facebook account, the event has a page here. You can save a few quid on the ticket if you follow the instructions there.
The Western Mail reports the latest on the election debates.
From Ieuan Wyn:
Unless broadcasts are held in a fair, impartial and accurate way, the legitimacy and integrity of the general election results will be called into question. That cannot be an acceptable state of affairs for anyone. The action the BBC has taken in putting together these plans is nothing short of a betrayal of the principles upon which the editorial integrity of the BBC is built.
The Scotsman with its usual impartiality headlines: “Nationalists scale down demands over TV debates”....
And here’s the BBC report. I like:
“Mr Jones and Mr Salmond have also written to international press bureaux heads accusing the BBC of bias.”
I await the coverage in Zimbabwe and Florida with interest.
Update - a thoughtful and balanced post from Betsan.
Wednesday, March 10, 2010
Rumbles about MI5 accountability or the lack of it featured in yesterdays P&J debate. It was ironic that I was so absorbed in the debate that I forgot to head off to hear Eliza Manningham-Buller the former head of MI5 last night telling the Mile End Group that she had no knowledge of US torture in the interrogation of the British resident and Guantanamo detaineee Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. She gave this naïve sounding answer to a question I had intended to ask myself.
I said to my staff, Why is he talking? because our experience of Irish prisoners and terrorist was that they never said anything.
They said the Americans say he is very proud of his achievements when questioned about it. It wasnt actually until after I retired that I read that in fact he had been waterboarded more than 163 times.
So odd that she didn’t check it out more, if only because we’re always told that intelligence is so much more reliable if volunteered than given under pressure.
Is she to be believed? Unlikely that she would volunteer a direct lie, two years after her retirement. Ignorant because she was better off not knowing and didnt ask? The Guardians timeline shows how close to American interrogations she was, and yet the torture took her by surprise. MI5a record has been famously slammed in the Mohamed judgement and an MI5 officer is under police investigation. At the same time the agency’s effectiveness in thwarting several serious terrorist attacks is established. Its worrying that alleged attempts by MI5 to set up the Derry man Kieran Doherty as an informer may have contributed to his murder by the RIRA, although this might be only an excuse. Neverthess it reopens old wounds and revives old memories that are still raw. To achieve some measure of MI5 accountability, MLAs have three choices: to continue asking the PSNI in the forum of the Policing Board if the national security protocols are being observed; to join in pressing for more effective scrutiny by a beefed up Intelligence and Scrutiny Committee at Westminster to which it would be a shrewd move to appoint Mark Durkan ; or join the like of SFs Martina Anderson, who yesterday called for the removal of the poisonous MI5 from our country and leave themselves open to the charge of hypocrisy when they call for the defeat of the dissident republicans.
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As I said at the end of last year - Its still the experiment most likely to find more than a pair of WIMPy socks. If theyre really there… But it might take a little longer than expected. Belfast-born director of accelerators at Cern, Steve Myers, has told the BBC that the Large Hadron Collider, the world’s highest energy particle accelerator, will only be run at half-maximum power for 18 to 24 months before being switched off for a year to carry out improvements to the 27km tunnel - at which point maximum power collisions will be attempted for the first time. Although the CERN bulletin doesn’t appear to have heard the news, whilst the Director General portrays it as standard procedure. And if you missed it last night, you can catch another wondrous Horizon on the iPlayer - “Is Everything We Know About The Universe Wrong?” - on the ‘fixes’ to the standard cosmological model required to match the observable universe. Including the inflationary hypothesus, ‘dark’ matter, ‘dark’ energy, and, possibly, ‘dark’ flow.
From the BBC report
Dr Myers said: “It’s something that, with a lot more resources and with a lot more manpower and quality control, possibly could have been avoided but I have difficulty in thinking that this is something that was a design error.”
He said: “The standard phrase is that the LHC is its own prototype. We are pushing technologies towards their limits.”
“You don’t hear about the thousands or hundreds of thousands of other areas that have gone incredibly well.
“With a machine like the LHC, you only build one and you only build it once.”
And from Cern’s Director General, Rolf Heuer.
Two years of continuous running is a tall order both for the LHC operators and the experiments, but it will be well worth the effort. By abandoning CERNs traditional annual operational cycle were increasing the overall running time and discovery potential over the next three years. This run will be followed by preparations for 14 TeV collisions in a single shutdown and another major advance into new territory as great as the one we are on the threshold of achieving.
And, on the search for ‘dark’ matter, I can’t resist linking the Guardian’s interview with Brian Cox
G: Historically, we’ve often thought we’re getting close to cracking the secrets of the universe. Are we?
Brian Cox: I honestly think the wheels are coming off our picture of the way the universe works at the moment. We don’t know what 96% of the universe is made of that tells us that we don’t understand something fundamental. It reminds me of the start of the 20th century when quantum mechanics and relativity were about to appear.
G: We wouldn’t expect a dog to understand the mysteries of the universe, so why should we imagine that we can?
Brian Cox: It’s an open question, whether it’s too complicated. All you can do is point back to history to note that we’ve been successful on this reductionist journey up to now. But there’s no reason
G: Have you ever believed in God?
Brian Cox: No! I was sent to Sunday school for a few weeks but I didn’t like getting up on Sunday mornings. But some of my friends are religious. I don’t have a strong view on religion, other than illogical religion. Young earth creationism, for example: bollocks.
Heh.
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The Irish Times notes a selective approach to anti-smoking legislation by the Friendly Sons of St Patrick on Washington DC City Council. Washington DC city councillor Jack Evans, a member of the all-male Society of the Friendly Sons of St Patrick, pushed emergency legislation through the council last week to exempt the Sons annual dinner from the smoking ban which the council passed in 2006.
The Belfast Telegraph reports that “calls have been made for a specialist police unit to deal with dissident incidents”:
Sinn Fein Policing Board member Daithi McKay warned that peoples lives could be put at risk, and has called for a specialist unit to deal with difficult incidents.
These are dangerous situations, he said. We saw the threat when a device went off in Newry. It could have done a lot of damage and killed people in the area.
There is obviously public concern about police response times for some incidents, and there is a duty on the Chief Constable and the PSNI to look at these.
If the PSNI is unable to adequately respond to these incidents, then it is worth considering looking at a specific unit or specially trained officers to deal with such issues. That could lead to better response times and decrease the risk to the public.
In the hue and cry over the Jon Venables case, the assumption goes unquestioned that Denise Fergus the mother of murdered toddler Jamie Bolger has a right to know the details of Venables alleged reoffending. No one lightly crosses the mother of an infant murder victim, but Simon Jenkins is surely right to conclude that justice is a meal best served cold and as free as possible from public comment during the investigative and judicial process. To bow uncritically to Mrs Ferguss natural fears and demands is to deprive her of her own sense of wider responsibility. We live in a less deferential age when judges are no more treated like Gods than are politicians. Victims have been elevated to a new status and nowhere more so than in Northern Ireland, although their status remains unclear.
At the same time it is neither possible nor desirable to shut a family victim up. The gruelling campaigns of the Omagh families and the McCartneys may not have been successful but they uncovered much that would have remained hidden. Penny Holloways is a case in point where her brave and skilful campaign carried on to the highest level won a rare reappraisal of a decision not to proceed in the case of the murder of her son Thomas. In cases of deep pain and controversy, we can only proceed case by case and with minds as open as possible and with no grandstanding from politicians. While it is right that more heed is paid to victims than ever before, their demands should not be accepted just because they are victims. These issues should be considered even more carefully, now that Justice powers are about to be handed over. All the parties should be alive to the danger of turning cases into political footballs. They must question their own prejudices. The behaviour of politicians on the Policing Board sets a mainly helpful precedent. Justice is both what the courts say it is and what the public thinks it is. It is up to us all, not just the judicial process, to ensure that the two coincide.
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What is it about old UTV men, and politics? First Mike Nesbitt in Strangford for the UUP and now Fearghal McKinney in Fermanagh South Tyrone for the SDLP. No doubt about who has the harder task, Michelle Gildernew is a popular figure and clearly feels her time at Agriculture will stand her in good stead over McKinney. Still, he’s the first impact player the SDLP have managed to pull in from outside the political game for a party who’s public representatives generally lack just such qualities. His initial statement is below the fold:
“This is a new era for politics and a new era for the SDLP. This country needs a strong SDLP and the people of the North need strong representation at Westminster.
Today I have submitted my application to represent the party in the constituency of Fermanagh South Tyrone in the forthcoming Westminster election. This election will be won and lost on the doorsteps and I am keen to build on the good work of Tommy Gallagher and others in the weeks and months ahead. I know I have a fight ahead of me to win the seat but I am looking forward to the challenge.
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A year on from the killing of Sappers Mark Quinsey and Patrick Azimkar shot at Massereene army base in Antrim there is now incontrovertible evidence that dissident republicans have the capacity to do immense damage into the future. Two developments in dissident republican engineering have forced the police to reassess their approach.
The bomb at Newry courthouse was the first time since Omagh on August 15 1998 that a so called improvised explosive device actually detonated. And the second development which is worrying the police is the fact that so called under vehicle bombs are having a deadly impact as was the case in the bomb attack on GAA footballer and PSNI officer Peadar Heffron.
A similar device under the passenger seat of a car belonging to a police officers girlfriend in East Belfast was further evidence of growing expertise in the hands of dissidents. Does this mean dissident engineering skills are improving or has there been an influx of fresh personnel with real bomb-making skills? Neither of these two factors is mutually exclusive.
It has also been revealed that the Newry bombers had undertaken a dry run to the courthouse nearly a year ago in a huge disruptive exercise which paralysed traffic.
There is no evidence that security experts are seeing particularly new or original technology. What is shaking the police to the core is the fact that these -IEDS ( improvised explosive devices) are now detonating.
What is not clear is why rebel republicans are now having success after such a long period of botched operations like the device discovered not far from Ballykinlar security base in South Down. Again the bomb at the policing board headquarters in Belfast only partially exploded.
A former IRA activist who is totally committed to the peace and political processes is highly critical of some of the individuals known to him who are linked to dissident republicanism.
He pointed out it is not always easy to know the young people now involved because the IRA ended the war in 1994 when some of these people were only children.
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Eamonn Mallie @ 09:37 AM
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All news is local first, and for the record, that disappeared car, the BBC apparently got it first from the Cross Examiner… That’s a new one for the blog roll…
Mick Fealty @ 09:28 AM
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Tuesday, March 09, 2010
THE man who burnt a million quid and sprayed a toy machinegun at an unsuspecting Brits audience has been back to Belfast, to re-imagine the city. The wonderful Bill Drummond is no stranger to Northern Ireland, and I kinda wished I’d bumped into him, like Moochin Photoman did a while back. Drummond seems to have a genuine love for Belfast - he makes it sound like it’s really worth visiting. Oh well… maybe sometime. Click to hear the Radio 4 programme instead.
Belfast Gonzo @ 11:24 PM
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Worth noting that among the items the NI Assembly voted to remain reserved today is the “politically motivated” Serious Organised Crime Agency [SOCA]. Meanwhile, the Assembly and Executive Review Committee has published its second report on devolution of policing and justice [volume 1 here, volume 2 here]. Included in Appendix 4 are the “Agreements, Concordats, Protocols and Memoranda of Understanding underpinning the devolution of policing and justice matters”. Of particular interest, the national security protocols which NI Secretary of State Shaun Woodward had, for some time, resisted providing to the committee. You need to scroll down from here to find the relevant section - “Handling Arrangements for National Security Related Matters after Devolution of Policing and Justice to the Northern Ireland Executive”. 1. After devolution of policing and justice, the Northern Ireland Minister of Justice (hereafter referred to as the Minister of Justice) will be responsible for policing and criminal justice policy[1].The Secretary of State remains responsible for national security matters. The Transfer of Functions Orders set out in more detail what this means in practice in terms of the full range of functions which will devolve and the small number of functions which will remain with the Secretary of State.
2. It is recognised that national security related issues may touch on the responsibilities of the Minister of Justice. This protocol sets out arrangements for managing this issue so as to ensure that the NI Executive and the UK Government can each carry out their respective responsibilities effectively and that national security issues are properly protected.
Some further extracts of interest
What is national security?
3. National security relates to the safety and security of the state and its people. The protection of national security, and the carrying out of other related activities in the interests of national security, are in law the functions of the Security and Intelligence Agencies (SIAs”), accountable to Ministers in the UK Government.
General Principles
4. Constitutionally, national security is an excepted matter under section 4 of and Schedule 2 to the Northern Ireland Act 1998 (the 1998 Act”). It is not, therefore, among those matters devolved to the Northern Ireland Assembly.
5. Issues will arise within the transferred policing and justice field which have a national security dimension or which touch on national security related issues. Therefore, there will be a need for consultation and the sharing of information between the Secretary of State and the Minister of Justice. It is the responsibility of the UK Government to determine what information pertaining to national security can be shared and on what terms it is provided. Information which, if made public, might hinder the ability of the SIAs to perform their functions, or which might reveal the operations, investigations, sources, techniques or methodologies of the SIAs or of other agencies that use the same techniques or methodologies will not be shared. [added emphasis]
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NIO historic records
10. All records created by the NIO prior to devolution, whether they are held electronically or on paper files, remain Crown Public Records and continue to be subject to the Public Records Act 1958. The NIO therefore retains ownership of and control of access to all pre-devolution records.
11. To facilitate the smooth operation of the Department of Justice (DOJ), and to ensure good governance, the NIO will provide access for DOJ officials to those pre-devolution NIO records relating to matters that are now devolved that are necessary for them to carry out their post-devolution functions effectively. DOJ officials will have no access to pre-devolution NIO records that relate to matters that remain the responsibility of the UK Government, including records that relate to matters of national security.
12. For the purposes of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA), any pre-devolution NIO records that are held by the DOJ will be deemed to be held by the DOJ on behalf of” the NIO. Under the FOIA, information held by one public authority on behalf of another is considered, for the purposes of the Act, to be held by the originating body, and they are the decision making body. Therefore, when a person requests access to information held on pre-devolution NIO records that are on loan to the DOJ, it will be for the NIO to provide the response to the applicant and apply any exemptions or public interest test that might be necessary. [added emphasis]
There is an annex to the above Protocol - Arrangements for Managing Issues which are National Security Related or Which Have a National Security Dimension
1 Counter-Terrorism Policy and Legislation
1.1 UK-wide counter-terrorism legislation applies in Northern Ireland and remains the responsibility of the UK Government. In pursuance of that responsibility, the UK Government works with the PSNI and other agencies in the policing and justice field on issues relating to counter terrorism and other reserved or excepted functions.
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2 Contingency planning and crisis management
2.1 These matters are devolved. Northern Ireland Executive Ministers lead in the planning and government response to any event that does not involve a national security dimension. Where a crisis or public order situation is national security related, it remains the responsibility of the devolved administration to manage the devolved government agencies response in close liaison with the NIO which leads on any issues relating to reserved or excepted matters including deployment of the armed forces, co-ordination across national government, UK wide media handling and international implications.
2.2 The police operational response, including any request for military assistance, is a matter for the Chief Constable who has operational responsibility and is independent consistent with the arrangements in place between the Home Secretary and other Chief Constables. [added emphasis]
3 Policing
3.1 The Independent Commission[2] on Policing in Northern Ireland recommended that responsibility for policing be devolved to the NI Executive, except for matters of national security. Post devolution of policing and justice, the Chief Constable, while remaining operationally responsible, will be accountable to the Minister of Justice on all aspects of PSNI work save that he or she will continue to be accountable to the Secretary of State (representing the UK Government) for those aspects of the PSNIs work - past, present or future - that have a national security element or dimension. Where the practical consequences of this impact on the role and responsibilities of the Minister of Justice he/she will be given access to relevant information in accordance with the principles set out in para 5 above including through the arrangements which will be put in place for the Chief Constable to brief the Minister of Justice on the security situation in Northern Ireland. The powers and responsibilities of the Policing Board have not been altered as a result of devolution or of this document.
3.2 The Minister of Justice is responsible for the process of appointing the Police Ombudsman (PONI”) and for sponsoring his/her office (although the appointment is made formally by HM The Queen on the recommendation of the First Minister and deputy First Minister). In relation to all devolved matters PONI reports to the Minister of Justice. In relation to reserved or national security matters, PONI reports to the Secretary of State and the Secretary of State may issue guidance to PONI on matters relating to national security. [added emphasis]
And a final extract
15 Organised crime
15.1 Organised crime remains a PSNI operational lead and the established procedures for management of national security information govern the passage of information from the SIAs to the PSNI. As in other areas, devolved Ministers will have access to relevant information in accordance with the principles set out in paragraph 5 above [in the protocol] to assist them in the effective conduct of their responsibilities. [added emphasis]
Particularly important in a situation where “a good friend” may be involved…
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The last we heard from this blog, (not this, this blog but that this blog) before heading off to give his Ard Fheis speech was:
‘This Blog is now off to a small room in another building to spend a little time practising for this evening’s live event. Ill let you know how it went later.’
As yet this hasnt reported back on how or what it felt later. By the looks of things the feeling was good.
ADDS - this entry is now declared a caption contest Mick: Not it is not!
Mark McGregor @ 06:11 PM
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As a small aside to todays vote, Radio Ulster indicated current Independent MLA but Fianna Fail member Gerry McHugh, formerly of SF, voted to endorse the devolution of policing and justice.
Which yet again seems to run contrary to his declared reasons for leaving SF:
I feel the direction Sinn Féin is taking is more about appeasement of the British government and administrating British rule in Ireland rather than working towards the end of British occupation. Assembly structures support this - at both committee and plenary level unionists have majority control.
Mr McHugh said Sinn Féins decision to endorse policing in the north was a factor in his decision.
I have no difficulties with the idea of civil policing but I have a difficulty with the excessive amounts of MI5 and military spooks operating in the six counties, he said.
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The fact that the PSNI is being used by MI5 for political policing here should be a major concern for everybody here, he said.
Mark McGregor @ 05:49 PM
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The NI Equality Commission was highly critical of Derry City Council’s approach to attempting to officially change the name of the city from Londonderry to Derry and, in September 2009, “strongly advise[d] Derry City Council not to proceed with the policy as it is currently proposed”. That attempt stalled on Monday when the Council failed to agree what its next step should be. Sinn Féin and the SDLP are blaming each other for that failure - an Irish News report provides the detail. Members voted on two separate proposals - an SDLP plan to form a working group to discuss the name change and a Sinn Féin motion to petition the Privy Council to change the name. The SDLP proposal was voted down by Sinn Féin and the DUP. The Sinn Féin motion to change the name was defeated by the SDLP and the DUP. Both the SDLP and Sinn Féin accused each other of thwarting any name change.
SDLP councillor Helen Quigley said the Privy Council would have rejected any petition after considering the Equality Commission and Community Relations Council reports. However, Sinn Féin’s Kevin Campbell accused the SDLP of opposing the name change.
Adds I should have mentioned the bid to become the UK City of Culture…
With the vital passage of the motion this evening to transfer Justice powers from Westminster and new moves afoot to improve the workings of power sharing towards creating a shared future, the Assembly has taken its boldest steps towards creating political stability since the St Andrews Agreement in 2006. The motion was passed by a parallel consent majority of 88% overall, the unionist majority being 67%.
In the long debate stretching throughout the day, highmindedness was not always maintained. But all in all the Assembly rose to the occasion , although plenty of problems lurk just below the surface. The Ulster Unionists were cast as useful idiots, the butt of other peoples criticisms, being taunted with David Camerons pleas to agree , Sylvia Hermons alleged support for the transfer and reports of Ulster Unionist members murmuring in the corridors against their own leadership. The UU stance seems to have had the beneficial effect of quelling any remaining qualms among the united ranks of the DUP. Their case against transfer at this juncture was swept aside in a wind up speech from Peter Robinson which reasserted his leadership of the DUP and indeed of the Assembly itself. He summed up his own position by giving himself a pat on the back at the expense of a very subdued Sir Reg Empey:.
Northern Ireland doesnt need leaders who dither and dally but leaders who can stretch the imagination.
The baleful focus of Mr Robinsons attention was the Ulster Unionist minister Michael McGimpsey who had earlier told members:
We are here due to Sinn Fein blackmail… I understand the anxiety of the DUP when it comes to facing the electorate. In side deals there is something about the Irish language, an Irish civic forum and an all-Ireland parliamentary forum and on-the-runs what Gerry Adams calls a staging post… If a Justice minister needs to call in the Army, where will SF stand then? And where is Nigel Dodds?
This you have to admit, was quite a good question. But with an eye to his own voters, Mr Robinson set about Mr McGimpsey whom he bracketed with the the absent non-member and DUP apostate Jim Allister.
I support (the transfer) on the basis of the DUP manifesto of 2007, co-authored , voted for and campaigned on by Jim Allister
Mr Allister’s reference on the radio to the 2012 hurdle could not be disposed of quite so easily. Mr Robinson admitted that under D’Hondt, Sinn Fein could have chance of gaining Justice if they become the largest party ” but they will not become the largest party after the next election.” Clearly that’s a problem deferrred. It was easier to scorn Mr McGimpseys claim that SF would oppose any move to call in the Army to deal with the dissident threat.
Paragraph 2 of the National Security Protocol. Any request for military assistance is a matter for the Chief Constable who has operational responsibility and is independent. I hope that kills off this Ulster Unionist nonsense
Declaring that claims of side deals were claptrap he asked where do they get this nonsense? It is all complete trash.
Contrary to the claims of Sir Reg and Margaret Ritchie who led it, the First minister praised the achievements of the working group on improving the functioning of the Assembly, even though they had last night turned down an FMDFM offer not to oppose bringing to the Executive any measure supported by three ministers. But I make the offer again.
The pledge of a more open approach to the operation of the four party coalition suggests that Ulster Unionist and SDLP complaints are about to be taken on board, notwithstanding Mr Robinsons harsh words about the Ulster Unionists this afternoon. Hopes will be raised that the UUs will soon be able to climb down from the uncomfortable hook on which they have impaled themselves. This and the imminent publication of the Robinson/McGuinness version of the CSI document together with the passage of the Devolution of Justice motion appears to set the Assembly on a far more positive course - with the caveat that nearly all the details have yet to be worked out.
On the transfer of Justice powers, a lot of devil will be in the detail. For instance SFs Martina Anderson breathed fire against MI5 (malignant, poisonous; some parties want to make them part of policing and then blame us for rejecting it )
Now what party would that be? Surely not SFs sturdy partner?
In an impressive display of his credentials, the SDLPs thwarted Justice minister Alban Maginness laid out a full programme for the Justice Ministry that was so long he hadnt finished it by the time his five minutes were up. The list contained a charter of rights for victims, prisons ombudsman, reform of the prison service, a new womens facility and a new prison, new accountability for the PPS, a criminal law reform forum and reform of legal aid. He would have no trouble spending the full £1.3 billion, even before we pay for all those police officers with damaged hearing
In a thoughtful and notably non partisan contribution based on her grassroots experience of a multi-agency approach to the problems of North Belfast, SFs Cara Ni Cuilin declared that great strides had been made towards ending criminality but that gaps remained that will be plugged today. If SF proceeds along these lines the outlook will surely be encouraging.
Late in the day Sir Reg Empey rose suddenly to treat members to a milder version of the McGimpsey speech so savaged by Peter Robinson . He was heard in silence as he read out woodenly from a text. Inevitably he approved of the devolution of P&J, but not to this lot. We do not believe in transferring justice powers to parties that cannot agree on the transfer of children from primary to secondary schools
Th leaders have not had a single discussion about the dissident threat .or what to do when inevitable problems arise.
The SDLPs other champion of detail Alex Attwood derided Martin McGuinsess for professing joint working and erring on the side transparency. It is not joint working to exclude the SDLP.. and to do deals over the heads of the community on a shared future and parading.. Lets see the documents!
In fact Margaret Ritchie had told the Assembly during Questions earlier that the CSI document will be published on Thursday.
Towards the end of the debate the DUP’s Edwin Poots threw in a squib nobody seemed to notice.
Were getting rid of 50:50 (police ) recruitment at the end of the year.
Has he shared this with anybody else?
Wrap up...
Brian Walker @ 04:41 PM
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The NI tail of the UCUNF dog has gone against the Conservative party’s policy on P&J for NI. Sir Reg Empey has seriously embarrassed Mr Cameron, who is now seen both by Democrats and by Republicans in the USA as a dog who can’t control his own tiny tail. How long can UCUNF survive when its two component parties don’t agree on the biggest NI issue since the GFA? And how many more embarrassments is Mr Cameron prepared to endure?
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