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		<title>Comment on McGuinness and Sinn Fein finally return to the pluralist language of Tone&#8230; by weidm7</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/25/mcguinness-and-sinn-fein-finally-return-to-the-pluralist-language-of-tone/comment-page-1/#comment-1084480</link>
		<dc:creator>weidm7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 00:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the way Adams talked about the SoS as an Englishman, rather than British, I think SF should take more about English domination rather than the evils of the British state, the fact is, unionists are British, if you attack the British state, you attack them, which obviously isn&#039;t going to win you any of their votes, but NI unionists, especially the most extreme, don&#039;t feel English, as the CUNF debacle showed, appeal to the Ulster sense of identity, embrace the Lambeg drum and the unique elements to Northern culture as &#039;Irish&#039;, full stop, or even as &#039;Northern Irish&#039;, but change that to mean north of the Nation of Ireland, the same way the South, West and East have their regional varieties, rather than as if it were somehow outside Ireland while still bearing its name. In a sense, out-DUP the DUP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the way Adams talked about the SoS as an Englishman, rather than British, I think SF should take more about English domination rather than the evils of the British state, the fact is, unionists are British, if you attack the British state, you attack them, which obviously isn&#8217;t going to win you any of their votes, but NI unionists, especially the most extreme, don&#8217;t feel English, as the CUNF debacle showed, appeal to the Ulster sense of identity, embrace the Lambeg drum and the unique elements to Northern culture as &#8216;Irish&#8217;, full stop, or even as &#8216;Northern Irish&#8217;, but change that to mean north of the Nation of Ireland, the same way the South, West and East have their regional varieties, rather than as if it were somehow outside Ireland while still bearing its name. In a sense, out-DUP the DUP.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by weidm7</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/sinn-fein-ard-fheis-adams-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1084470</link>
		<dc:creator>weidm7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 23:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enlightened, thorough analysis as always from the slugger commenters.</description>
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		<title>Comment on McGuinness and Sinn Fein finally return to the pluralist language of Tone&#8230; by Drumlins Rock</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/25/mcguinness-and-sinn-fein-finally-return-to-the-pluralist-language-of-tone/comment-page-1/#comment-1084469</link>
		<dc:creator>Drumlins Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 23:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nevin, whats stepping stones?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by Drumlins Rock</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/sinn-fein-ard-fheis-adams-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1084468</link>
		<dc:creator>Drumlins Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 23:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The British Secretary of State should go back to England where he belongs.&quot;

The Polish Plumber should go back to Poland where he belongs.

The Indian Doctor should go back to India where he belongs.

The Portugese Waiter should go back to Portugal where he belongs.

The latter three statements would be judged racist and zenophobic, not even the BNP would get away with it in a confertence speech, why should Gerry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The British Secretary of State should go back to England where he belongs.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Polish Plumber should go back to Poland where he belongs.</p>
<p>The Indian Doctor should go back to India where he belongs.</p>
<p>The Portugese Waiter should go back to Portugal where he belongs.</p>
<p>The latter three statements would be judged racist and zenophobic, not even the BNP would get away with it in a confertence speech, why should Gerry?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by BluesJazz</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/sinn-fein-ard-fheis-adams-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1084445</link>
		<dc:creator>BluesJazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 22:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iluvni
to be fair, he did speak some of Jonathan&#039;s speech in irish creole, but it was still pretty crappy, and noone took any notice. 
Maybe Alastiar Campbell is available next time, with Danny Morrison  to translate in irish creole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iluvni<br />
to be fair, he did speak some of Jonathan&#8217;s speech in irish creole, but it was still pretty crappy, and noone took any notice.<br />
Maybe Alastiar Campbell is available next time, with Danny Morrison  to translate in irish creole.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by iluvni</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/sinn-fein-ard-fheis-adams-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1084444</link>
		<dc:creator>iluvni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 22:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;m offended that he continues to make the speech in the language of the oppressor, instead of his native tongue</description>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by BluesJazz</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/sinn-fein-ard-fheis-adams-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1084443</link>
		<dc:creator>BluesJazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan Powell has really lost his touch. That&#039;s the worst i&#039;ve ever heard. Maybe time for Gerry to switch to Alastair Campbell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Powell has really lost his touch. That&#8217;s the worst i&#8217;ve ever heard. Maybe time for Gerry to switch to Alastair Campbell?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by articles</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/sinn-fein-ard-fheis-adams-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1084442</link>
		<dc:creator>articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citizen is the new volunteer.

Thanks for the inspiration CS, I&#039;ll be back.</description>
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<p>Thanks for the inspiration CS, I&#8217;ll be back.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by Comrade Stalin</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/sinn-fein-ard-fheis-adams-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1084441</link>
		<dc:creator>Comrade Stalin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he probably does write his own speeches, they&#039;re loaded with all that folksy talk you can also read on his Earbash blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he probably does write his own speeches, they&#8217;re loaded with all that folksy talk you can also read on his Earbash blog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by Nevin</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/sinn-fein-ard-fheis-adams-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1084440</link>
		<dc:creator>Nevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Volunteer&#039; didn&#039;t pass his lips. An oversight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Volunteer&#8217; didn&#8217;t pass his lips. An oversight?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by articles</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/sinn-fein-ard-fheis-adams-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1084439</link>
		<dc:creator>articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to get a definitive answer to this but does GA write his own speeches. I think he does and it shows.

There is not one coherent theme in this wordfest. 

It confirms what I&#039;ve always thought about SF, a single issue party surrounding itself with a ragbag of socially liberal and economically populist policies.If you are progressive in politics there&#039;s something here for you, just turn a blind eye to the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to get a definitive answer to this but does GA write his own speeches. I think he does and it shows.</p>
<p>There is not one coherent theme in this wordfest. </p>
<p>It confirms what I&#8217;ve always thought about SF, a single issue party surrounding itself with a ragbag of socially liberal and economically populist policies.If you are progressive in politics there&#8217;s something here for you, just turn a blind eye to the rest.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by glenda lough</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/sinn-fein-ard-fheis-adams-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1084438</link>
		<dc:creator>glenda lough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bourgeoisify -wish this site had an addit button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bourgeoisify -wish this site had an addit button.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by ranger1640</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/sinn-fein-ard-fheis-adams-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1084437</link>
		<dc:creator>ranger1640</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerry&#039;s, long winded whine read like the lyrics from a bad Eurovision entry. Yawn!!!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Independent&#8217;s editor backs grammar schools by Brian Walker</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/independents-editor-backs-grammar-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-1084436</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t have bloggers’ fever over this. It’s entirely clear that grammar schools will survive until a solution is found to surmount the old arguments for or against selection for school entry at 11. 

 In England, the Gove policy (and even its New Labour predecessor) is clearly an attempt to create a grammar school type academic ethos without entry selection (specialism). Pressure to raise standards is growing also because more and more middle class parents in the big cities cannot afford the private school fees which have risen exponentially. (Believe me, I’ve paid them).  It’s probably the only viable approach politically viable in England. But it might be adapted for NI to substitute local choice for political  deadlock, that’s my point.
The NI scene is different from England. Grammar schools educate – is it 60%?_-unlike England where they survive in only a few council areas and the name of the game is to create specialist schools and improve teaching standards generally. In NI the grammar school character of many schools has blurred and a kind of reform is happening through inertia. Why not do the thing properly? 
 
Nothing will happen until the DUP recognise there is a problem and there is general agreement over what the problem actually is. Costello and Bain have not actually been refuted. What the reports didn’t do as far as I can see, is lay out the detailed strategy of reform. In the meantime, quite a few schools will continue to underperform due to the oversupply of places in the existing school structure combined with a shrinking budget over time. Even the best schools will probably feel the strain too.    

I favour transparent area based planning based on collaboration and sharing so that as everyone can see a model of how the entire secondary schools estate throughout the province could be related to an “entitlement framework” i.e. a curriculum for all aptitudes and talents. 

The province is compact enough to allow area planning to be subject to democratic scrutiny. Parental choice based on relating budget to demographics could then be exercised locally to take into account a fairly wide entitlement framework ( ie curriculum ) which would require sharing and whatever degree of integration the public wants locally. How would public opinion be tested? By the number of applications to each school group.

Integration should continue to be a local option. A comprehensive integration strategy  would be a stage too far. But if the gains were clear locally, parental choice could bring it about. I don’t see why a strategy like this couldn’t be politically viable. It doesn’t set out to a Big Bang pipe dream and it keeps everyone involved. Reform cannot be imposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t have bloggers’ fever over this. It’s entirely clear that grammar schools will survive until a solution is found to surmount the old arguments for or against selection for school entry at 11. </p>
<p> In England, the Gove policy (and even its New Labour predecessor) is clearly an attempt to create a grammar school type academic ethos without entry selection (specialism). Pressure to raise standards is growing also because more and more middle class parents in the big cities cannot afford the private school fees which have risen exponentially. (Believe me, I’ve paid them).  It’s probably the only viable approach politically viable in England. But it might be adapted for NI to substitute local choice for political  deadlock, that’s my point.<br />
The NI scene is different from England. Grammar schools educate – is it 60%?_-unlike England where they survive in only a few council areas and the name of the game is to create specialist schools and improve teaching standards generally. In NI the grammar school character of many schools has blurred and a kind of reform is happening through inertia. Why not do the thing properly? </p>
<p>Nothing will happen until the DUP recognise there is a problem and there is general agreement over what the problem actually is. Costello and Bain have not actually been refuted. What the reports didn’t do as far as I can see, is lay out the detailed strategy of reform. In the meantime, quite a few schools will continue to underperform due to the oversupply of places in the existing school structure combined with a shrinking budget over time. Even the best schools will probably feel the strain too.    </p>
<p>I favour transparent area based planning based on collaboration and sharing so that as everyone can see a model of how the entire secondary schools estate throughout the province could be related to an “entitlement framework” i.e. a curriculum for all aptitudes and talents. </p>
<p>The province is compact enough to allow area planning to be subject to democratic scrutiny. Parental choice based on relating budget to demographics could then be exercised locally to take into account a fairly wide entitlement framework ( ie curriculum ) which would require sharing and whatever degree of integration the public wants locally. How would public opinion be tested? By the number of applications to each school group.</p>
<p>Integration should continue to be a local option. A comprehensive integration strategy  would be a stage too far. But if the gains were clear locally, parental choice could bring it about. I don’t see why a strategy like this couldn’t be politically viable. It doesn’t set out to a Big Bang pipe dream and it keeps everyone involved. Reform cannot be imposed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by Alanbrooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alanbrooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 20:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ireland&#039;s leading stand up comedian delivers the goods at another live gig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ireland&#8217;s leading stand up comedian delivers the goods at another live gig.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by glenda lough</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/05/26/sinn-fein-ard-fheis-adams-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-1084434</link>
		<dc:creator>glenda lough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 20:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerry&#039;s refusal to bougeoisify his accent is admirable, as I&#039;m sure the First and Deputy First Monsters would agree.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Independent&#8217;s editor backs grammar schools by Local hack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Local hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 19:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me the education system is totality out of whack to the needs of society and greatly damages each and every child. 

There should be a comprehensive system that constantly assess children from the very beginning until the age of 14 when their future will be determined on their entire academic history and not on one solitary exam. 
No school should ever be &quot;preferred&quot; over another - they should all provide identical first class all-emcompasing education.
At age 14 there needs to be a three way split - academic, vocational and military, for the intellectual, physical and out of line 

There needs to be input from industry and academic sources in order to produce the work force and entrepreneurs we need in order.
And finally when they reach the age of 18, well-rounded and prepared to advance our society, only the very very gifted should be allowed to enter the university education - the idea that all should ever reach territory education should never have been allowed to get past the &quot;brainstorming&quot; exercise Blair&#039;s cronies thought up.

The longer this farce over selection at 11 goes on the more children are damaged at every level</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me the education system is totality out of whack to the needs of society and greatly damages each and every child. </p>
<p>There should be a comprehensive system that constantly assess children from the very beginning until the age of 14 when their future will be determined on their entire academic history and not on one solitary exam.<br />
No school should ever be &#8220;preferred&#8221; over another &#8211; they should all provide identical first class all-emcompasing education.<br />
At age 14 there needs to be a three way split &#8211; academic, vocational and military, for the intellectual, physical and out of line </p>
<p>There needs to be input from industry and academic sources in order to produce the work force and entrepreneurs we need in order.<br />
And finally when they reach the age of 18, well-rounded and prepared to advance our society, only the very very gifted should be allowed to enter the university education &#8211; the idea that all should ever reach territory education should never have been allowed to get past the &#8220;brainstorming&#8221; exercise Blair&#8217;s cronies thought up.</p>
<p>The longer this farce over selection at 11 goes on the more children are damaged at every level</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sinn Fein Ard Fheis: Adams&#8217; speech&#8230; by wee buns</title>
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		<dc:creator>wee buns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 19:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Equality is achievable.

Irish people have the genius and the right to demand it.

In our time.&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;ve gotta love the qualifier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Equality is achievable.</p>
<p>Irish people have the genius and the right to demand it.</p>
<p>In our time.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;ve gotta love the qualifier.</p>
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		<title>Comment on #Euref: Underlying questions too big for a simple Yes or a No. What about a &#8216;Not Yes&#8217;? by wee buns</title>
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		<dc:creator>wee buns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 19:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting how Ganley is the only one who has managed to insert a degree of complexity into his sloganeering i.e. ‘either/or’ with ‘Cut the Bank Debt or NO Deal’.  The rest of them have unimaginatively chosen to stick to polemics - austerity versus stability etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting how Ganley is the only one who has managed to insert a degree of complexity into his sloganeering i.e. ‘either/or’ with ‘Cut the Bank Debt or NO Deal’.  The rest of them have unimaginatively chosen to stick to polemics &#8211; austerity versus stability etc</p>
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		<title>Comment on BCC&#8217;s proposed £20m conferencing investment in the Waterfront, knocking down the Studio in the process by Professor Yattle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Yattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 19:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll just invite you to my next conference.
You&#039;ll be eating out of my hand in five minutes.</description>
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You&#8217;ll be eating out of my hand in five minutes.</p>
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