Jewish Labour MP walks out after taking offense at the launch of party’s anti semitic report..

Have we landed in a parallel universe? A bit like a football team that’s lost its form Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour party goes from one self-undoing to another. This morning at the launch of Shami Chakrabarti’s report into anti-semitism, this happened:

Ruth Smeeth is a Jewish Labour MP. The speaker is an annoyed Corbynista (who said afterwards he didn’t know Smeeth was Jewish), accusing her of working with a right-wing journalist, which apparently had nothing to do with the subject of the launch.

Mr Corbyn was on the platform and seems not to have seen/understood what was going on. It’s just this class of befuddlement in office is a large part of what’s frustrated a full 172 of his colleagues. [As foretold last summer? – Ed]

To gild the irony-free zone that is the Corbyn Labour party, the banner on the platform read: “Standing Up, Not Standing By”. It’s gap between what the party professes and what it actually does that’s creating the problems of the leader.

You really could not make this stuff up… 

Update: Hmmm… Here’s Mr Corbyn apologising to the guy who weighed in on Ms Smeeth just over 3 minutes in…

And here’s Ms Smeeth’s blog at the HuffPo written just afterwards.

  • Arthur Renfrew

    Ah , but you could make it up. Sky News telling us all day that she encountered anti-semitism without any evidence of the same. Looks and smells like another coordinated PR stunt from implacable opponents of Corbyn.

  • Obelisk

    The Labour party is clearly in it’s death throes. Wiped out in Scotland and divorced from what they have long perceived as their own voters in England.They are seemingly dissolving before our very eyes.

    Corbyn is a symptom, not a cause of what is happening in Labour. People were so desperate for any kind of vision that they latched on to an old school 1970s Trotskyite who clearly doesn’t have a clue on how to lead his party.

    He isn’t going to win the next general election but the problem is Angela Eagle or whoever the establishment puts up isn’t going to either. The vision they espouse just does not resonate with anyone outside their own circles.

    Labour has been hollowed out, it’s remaining supporters seem to vote for it out of habit.

    With this, the entire British left has reached an existential crisis.The Liberal Democrats have been electorally annihilated after all and showed no signs of a recovery in the recent council elections and Labour is collapsing.

    A new, progressive form of politics needs to take root in England, fit for the twenty first century and able to challenge the Tories. Labour is not the vehicle for that sort of politics.

    Labour is a coffin, waiting to be lowered into it’s freshly dug grave.

  • mickfealty

    Arthur, watch the video and then re-read what’s actually in the post.

    The guy who accuses Ms Smeeth of collaborating with a right wing journalist is talking at the launch of the party’s own official report into allegations of anti semitism.

    Hint: he’s not there to talk about anti-semitism, is he? If you are still not getting the irony, here’s what Shami put in the front of the report

    “While we celebrate our diversity, what surprises me time and time again as I travel around the constituency is that we are far more united and have far more in common with each other than things that divide us.”

    Jo Cox MP, 3 June 2015 (Maiden speech to the House of Commons)

  • Michael Harkin

    Does anyone have a transcript of what was actually said? MSM, including the hacks at RTE, appear to have decided there was an anti-Semitic assault on the woman MP.

  • mickfealty

    Good call. I don’t have it. I thought that too from the reporting earlier in the day, but I took the precaution of writing the piece to what i could see in the video rather than the secondary sources. Unfortunately some of what the guy says is drowned out by the calls of outrage from close to the camera.

  • mickfealty

    Harsh, but probably fair…

  • Arthur Renfrew

    What’s your beef? I watched the video before you posted it and read your post. Smeeth threw a strop because the Labour activist named checked her in relation to spinning against the leader. I’m pointing out that Sky News are making it up when they take her word that she was being attacked in an anti-Semitic manner with no evidence of such.

  • hgreen

    Rubbish. More people have joined the Labour Party since the last election than are in the entire Tory party. That doesn’t sound like a party in its death throws. This is a party going through necessary changes in response to the huge changes in society being brought about by inequality and corporatism.

    We’ve had enough with so called “progressive” politics. It was just capitalism with better marketing.

  • mickfealty

    Only beef is that I said nothing about anti semitism in the speech or mentioned an attack. A party launching a report into anti semitism and then having one of their activists lumber straight into a verbal attack on a Jewish MP who just happens to be the audience is way beyond satire, never mind irony.

    As I say above, it’s this gap between what the party professes and what it actually does that’s creating the biggest problems for the leader. No party is ever quite what it says on the tin, but that the gap is getting larger and larger in the public eye is only to the detriment of the party.

  • Reader

    Bucket loads of Labour MPs have been spinning against the leader – so why pick on her? and why right then? Wasn’t there something much more important going on at that event?

  • Obelisk

    They can prove me wrong and win an election then.

    One that isn’t limited to the ‘faithful’.

  • mickfealty

    Hugh. A political party which is at odds with 81% of its MPs is a pressure group, and no longer a party.

  • Arthur Renfrew

    He didn’t know she was Jewish. He just knew she was very anti-Corbyn. Very cross community.

  • mickfealty

    I believe him. I understand the anger, especially with Chilcot coming up. But this is terminal behaviour.

  • Katyusha

    This is rich on Ms Smeeth’s part.
    The PLP has spent the last few days attempting to overthrow their leader, generating publicity through their stage-managed resignations and working hand-in-glove with the mainstream media to whip up a story. When someone calls her out on being in cahoots with the Telegraph, she immediately jumps to antisemitism as the cause.

    I don’t buy it. Just because you are Jewish doesn’t mean you are above criticism.

  • Declan Doyle

    No, you took the precaution of making sure your piece was as anti-corbyn as possible without bothering to find out the exact turn of events.

  • Declan Doyle

    Corbyn doesn’t have a clue how to lead a party in line with the establishment group think expectations. We are so accustomed to reproducing political drones as leaders that we can no longer identify true originality. He can lead, just not the way the automotons want him too.

  • Paddy Reilly

    Try this, about 11.00 mins in:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07hsqc2/world-news-today-30062016

    (not visible outside UK)

  • Paddy Reilly

    No, it’s there all right.

  • Declan Doyle

    Not so, MPS in a bubble living and playing the game as constructed by their forebears are not capable of thinking outside the pack. They side with the breeze wherever it is blowing and quickly change direction when the weather changes. Party grass roots have to be pressure groups, if they lose that power you allow apathy to engulf political culture -as is happening. If the grass roots save Corbyn, the MPS will have to fall in behind him. If Corbyn survives, watch how many of the quitters will suddenly realise he is the right man for the job.

  • mickfealty

    At best, it’s clumsy to find yourself at the launch of a report – designed to extricate the party from a deep puddle of the brown stuff one of Jez’s strongest supporters leapt into – only to find another one falling into the same mess.

    The truth is that just disciplining Ken would probably have been enough.

  • mickfealty

    It is possible to go far more anti Corbyn than this.

  • hgreen

    Didn’t hear anything inappropriate.

  • mickfealty

    It’s blocked in exactly the same place.

  • Obelisk

    He had a chance to prove your thesis correct during the Referendum campaign. He either blew it or deliberately sabotaged it.

    I think a more accurate notion is that the people who like Corbyn, like him because they like his positions, which is fine. But they like him so much that they are blinding themselves to his immense shortcomings as a leader in that he just can’t do it.

    But as I said, Corbyn is a symptom, not a cause of Labour’s decline. I just have a strong antipathy for the man now because of how I believe he undermined the Remain campaign and helped land us all in this mess. I knew he was incompetent before and it wasn’t my issue as I live in Northern Ireland, but his incompetence has had shocking consequences for everyone.

  • mickfealty

    You should talk to people inside the PLP. His weakness is no longer amongst the Blairite refusniks, but amongst those who are far to the left of the party wouldn’t trust Blair as far as they could throw him.

    They are absolutely livid with him because he’s in the process of handing what’s left of the party back to the right.

  • mickfealty
  • Declan Doyle

    He was not the driver of the referendum debacle. He was pushed into a situation not of his making. His views were honestly expressed and calmly presented. He stayed away from what was a divisive debate with lie and counter lie cancelling each other out. He, like most people never believed Brexit could carry the day. Now he is being scape goated through shallow opportunism. After just nine months in the job he deserves a chance to develop his style and try to break through our robotic political culture. Hopefully the grass roots will save him. A gen election within the year will test him fair and square.

  • hgreen

    36% of SNP voters voted to leave and 37% of labour voters voted to leave. Did Nicola Sturgeon blow it as well?

  • Declan Doyle

    And….?

  • Obelisk

    Nicola Sturgeon’s arena is Scotland. How we should judge her performance is therefore limited to Scotland by default.

    Nicola Sturgeon is also the First Minister of Scotland, meaning she was able and in fact required to carry on a dialogue with all Scots, regardless of their party.

    With a 62% in favour of remain, no, Nicola Sturgeon did not ‘blow’ it. Besides, she was actively seen to be campaigning for Remain.

    Jeremy Corbyn is not Prime Minister. The expectations of Jeremy Corbyn were to campaign among his supporters, people who vote Labour.

    Jeremy Corbyn blew it because he didn’t even try. It appears he didn’t try because his heart just wasn’t it. In so doing, he failed to provide leadership to his supporters.

    Disenchanted Labour supporters are the reason Remain lost. Labour supporters were not influenced by the leader of the Labour party.

    Jeremy Corbyn failed.

  • Declan Doyle

    Or he is in the process of doing what so many of our political and media automotons have failed to do for decades; follow through with sincerity abd honesty on a mandate.

  • Paddy Reilly

    Repeated 17.00 mins in. Or Try Youtube under “Ruth Smeeth”

  • Obelisk

    Please understand that I like Jeremy Corbyn (although I am furious with him over what happened during the campaign, something I doubt I will forgive him for). I am a moderate left winger myself, not as left wing as Corbyn, but I am left wing.

    But just because I prefer many of his policies does not mean I think he is a good leader. I do not think he is a good leader.

    I think he is very good at drawing attention to certain issues. I think he is very good at motivating outrage at those injustices.

    But I feel very strongly that outrage can only carry you so far. To enact meaningful change you need power. Jeremy Corbyn is not going to lead Labour to power, he is treating it as a glorified protest movement.

    On the other hand I don’t think ANYONE is leading Labour to power in the near future. The party is in a complete shambles.

  • Obelisk

    And this is how someone completely unsuitable for the job will become a martyr, struck down by a dark conspiracy out to thwart the will of the people.

    Corbyn’s failures and incompetence will be glossed over with each retelling, till all that is left is the story of the bright eyed true believer who, propelled by the masses, ascended to the heights of the Labour Party, only to be cast down by the corporatist forces that now choke the party at it’s heart.

    If Corbyn had been a good leader, that would have been a good story. One that might have inspired some much needed change.

    Instead, if he is toppled, it’ll be the stab in the back legend of the Momentum crowd.

  • hgreen

    She was one of the leaders of the remain campaign, was more visible than Corbyn, yet similar to Corbyn couldn’t get many in her own party to agree with her. She blew it while trying. Nicola Sturgeon failed.

  • Obelisk

    The fact that the leader of a regional party was, by your own admission, more visible than the leader of the opposition is something of an indictment.

    Regardless, Sturgeon delivered a Scottish remain vote.

    Corbyn did not reach those of his own supporters he needed to reach. Had he tried and failed, I’d be saying the PLP were opportunistic backstabbers.

    But he didn’t try.

  • Arthur Renfrew

    The only person this particular incident reflects badly on is Ruth Smeeth, and that foppish pratt muttering anti-semitism loudly. The ‘story’ as RTÉ disgracefully have it, is the *Israeli style over reaction of little Miss Hissy Fit.

    *paraphrasing Nicola Murray MP

  • Michael Harkin

    I repeat, does anyone know what that man actually said, or do we simply believe that some anti-Corbyn MP was upset because she believes she was verbally assaulted?

  • ted hagan

    Labour, had they had a true leader, would have been in great shape to take full advantage of the Tory travails. As it is, they are in even worse shape. It’s pitiful. Corbyn is useless, and not just useless, pathetic; Enough of the ‘decent man’ crap, he’s betraying his own party.

  • mickfealty

    Caught it all on Sky earlier…

  • hgreen

    That’s like saying Martin mcguinness delivered a Norn iron remain vote. Bonkers.

  • Obelisk

    The political dynamics are vastly different in Northern Ireland. A strong Nationalist remain vote was pretty much guaranteed because of those dynamics. McGuinness deserves as much credit in proportion to how much he motivated a remain vote, including mitigating some of the stronger ‘ourselves alone’ types who want out of both UK and EU…as well as those who think the best route to a United Ireland was through the economic chaos of a Brexit.

    But Corbyn had a greater duty to try in England as the outcome could have hinged on his efforts and he didn’t try. That is unforgivable.

    That he thinks he can continue as party leader after this is just pure hubris.

    I say it again. In the biggest political event of our lifetimes Corbyn went AWOL. Yes, the PLP has been out to get him since his election. But is it their fault he handed them the gun to finish himself off?

  • mickfealty

    And, ‘cleansing’? There’s far worse than that from some of his supporters online. This is only going one way now. The YouGov poll that picked up his success early in the campaign last year suggesting it’s not communicating well to the broader support

    https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/748641680602062849

    He’s managed to level things up even before a candidate is named. Though actually when you name someone his rate stays the same, and the named opponent goes from 40% down to about 32%.

    Trouble is a lot of people still think it’s just the Blairites (who hated him from the get go), but he’s hacked almost everyone off who’s not part of the deep core project. He’s not even being allowed to see requests from those still left inside the shadow cabinet to see him.

  • mickfealty

    That’s about as convincing as Jacob Rees Mogg’s defence of Michael Gove was on Newsnight tonight. Forget the anti semite stuff, the fighting is killing the leader, and the party.

    The buck for that stops with the leader.

  • Declan Doyle

    It’s a perfect example of ganging up on the strange kid because he is unusually brighter, a bit eccentric and weirdly unique. His failing is that he is different but it is also his strength. If he makes it through he could crack through the stale rotten but solid crust of right wing pack delinquency and be an example to those coming after him. All over Europe the right and centre right is losing ground. And their solution to this is to offer more of the same. Sometime, letting a stranger in can be the best move of your life.

  • mickfealty

    And you think a man who cannot keep 81% of his MPs on board can win back that lost vote? This was his shadow cabinet at 1pm today…

    https://twitter.com/GuyOpperman/status/748531179545051136

  • chrisjones2

    Its absolutely clear. He singles out a female Jewish MP in the room and attacks her claiming later he didnt know she was Jewish – but allegedly knew everything else about her.

    And what did Corbyn do after she left in tears. Not only did he not stiop the abuse – he walked out with her assailant laughing and smiling

  • Declan Doyle

    You are with respect continuing to ignore the pack phenomena, the ruthless nature of the hobbesian man maybe. Most explicit in the cut and thrust of nakedly partisan politics. The challenge for one man is to survive in the wild, Corbyn is faced with that challenge and if he succeeds he will literally overturn our political culture and once and hopefully for all show how the power is and always shall be in the hands of the masses. Corbyn’s fight goes far beyond the British Labour party, it is the biggest challenge to our group think political architecture in decades.

  • chrisjones2

    …or ganging up on the utter tosser who is destroying the party

  • chrisjones2

    So why did Corbyn not stop him?

    Why did Corbyn seem to be on such great terms with him afterwards as they left when he had just done that to an elected MP?

  • chrisjones2

    “foppish pratt ”

    Is that homophobic or just sexist?

  • Declan Doyle

    He cannot destroy the party, he can only be allowed destroy it

  • mickfealty

    Yes, I am. I feel sorry for the guy. But this is survival behaviour, not just that of the pack. You know, when a ship is sinking and people find inhuman strength from nowhere?

  • Declan Doyle

    Ya and hopefully he will find that strength. If Britain, the home of Adam Smith, the home of democracy and the one time workshop of the world can produce a genuinely left leader to break the cycle of neo liberal violence; a new dawn will have broken.

  • mickfealty

    It’s his crew that’s panicking Declan…

  • Declan Doyle

    Ya and mutiny’s rarely end well

  • Starviking

    Honestly expressing views calmly is an admirable trait for most people, but for a leader you are expected to lead. That requires passion not equivocation.

    If Jeremy Corbyn could not get himself worked up about the referendum, how on earth could he expect to convince Labour supporters to Remain?

  • Granni Trixie

    As a nun advised me regarding cleaning windows (in context of a children’s home!): “look after the corners – the middle will look after itself”. Corbyn (branded by supporters “Jeremy”) seems to operate on an opposite philosophy – which will not win elections.

  • Granni Trixie

    For the record it was not just nationalists in NI which want to remain. As far as I could tell APNI were 100 per cent agreed on remain. And it’s anecdotal I know but right across the board people are swarming into post offices to get applications for Irish passports.

  • doopa

    Have they disciplined him at all? What was the outcome of the report for him?

  • kensei

    1. Is this surprising given the sustained campaign against him?
    2. If this is accurate, just have a leadership election and win it
    3. Intensity beats preference. And apparently 60,000 have joined Labour in the last week.

    And by the by, something definitely needs cleansed about Labour.

  • Michael Harkin

    Okay, I’ll ask again: what words did he use to upset Ms Smeeth?

  • Arthur Renfrew

    Neither. How very Smeethist of you.

  • Sir Rantsalot

    I didn’t see any reason to cry anti semit speech. Mick , can you provide a transcript of what you heard to prompt you to claim anti semit stuff?

  • mickfealty

    Just go back and look at the context of the story?

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