French President Francois Hollande :”The negotiations will be conducted with the United Kingdom, not with a part of the United Kingdom”

With the UK Parliament sovereign, and Sinn Féin’s calls for a border poll dismissed as an unwelcome distraction, quite where the “very special place” Martin McGuinness thinks Northern Ireland is in isn’t entirely clear.  Nor whom he thinks he can press that “case” with in his attempt to ignore the UK-wide referendum result.  He should remember, however, that neither he nor his party, alone, speak for the Northern Ireland Executive.

He should also pay very close attention to the responses the Scottish First Minister is getting in the EU about “that same case”…

…acting Spanish prime minister [Mariano Rajoy]  said after a summit of EU leaders in Brussels that he wanted to be “very clear Scotland does not have the competence to negotiate with the European Union”.

He added: “Spain opposes any negotiation by anyone other than the government of United Kingdom.

“I am extremely against it, the treaties are extremely against it and I believe everyone is extremely against it. If the United Kingdom leaves… Scotland leaves.”

Spain was a vocal opponent of Scottish independence ahead of the 2014 referendum, largely because of the situation in Catalonia where there is a strong independence movement.

Meanwhile, [French President Francois Hollande] said: “The negotiations will be conducted with the United Kingdom, not with a part of the United Kingdom”. [added emphasis]

As for the other individuals Nicola Sturgeon has been getting her photograph taken with…

Ms Sturgeon met European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker in Brussels, but was told by European Council president Donald Tusk that a meeting with him would not be appropriate at this time.

She also met EU Parliament president Martin Schulz, as well as Gianni Pitella, the leader of the Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats in the European Parliament, and former Belgian prime minister Guy Verhofstadt, who is now an MEP.

Mr Schulz said he had “listened carefully and learned a lot”, while Mr Pitella said he was “sympathetic” to Scotland’s situation but that it was an issue to be solved within the UK.

Ahead of his meeting with Ms Sturgeon, Mr Juncker said: “Scotland won the right to be heard in Brussels so I will listen carefully to what the first minister will tell me.

But we don’t have the intention, neither Donald Tusk nor myself, to interfere in an inner British process that is not our duty and this is not our job.” [added emphasis]

London, then…

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  • chrisjones2

    …ah so you favour persuading your fellow Irishmen by murdering them ?….that is a high and principled approach

  • chrisjones2

    Just some of them.

  • chrisjones2

    Poor Mark Dunkin was having difficulty on The Politics Show today in trying to rewrite the Anglo Irish Agreement on the hoof and pretend he doesn’t live and work in the UK

  • Jarl Ulfreksfjordr

    If you “knew” my answer why did you ask in the first place?

    This is (for how ever much it would appear it irks you) a current issue. Cast your eye over the leadership of the SF gang. See how many, including the Dear Leader, are the same people who once justified every nationalist terrorist murder and attack that occurred. To this day they still celebrate those activities; and all this in a society that has many, many victims of that gang’s so-called “war”.

    Again I don’t think I’ll bother playing your game of ‘comparing’ sectarian nationalists with the SNP. I may as well compare an ice cream cone with a ladder.

    As I can detect no sarcasm in your posts I can only conclude you view the two organisations as in some way similar. In that case there is nothing I can say that would even make a dent in such a perverse worldview.

  • Tochais Siorai

    He’s not a free agent with the protocols of the office, if the Irish govt vetoed that Belfast gig as I suspect they did then Michael D had no choice. If there isn’t a consensus for an official visit then he can’t go.

  • Muiris

    If an independant Scotland united with the RoI, it would automatically be in the EU, outside the Shengan zone, the joint entity negotiating some special access/ deal with the remainder of the U.K. Once the deals were done, Scotland would then be free to go it’s own way, as Slovakia & the Czech Republic did.

  • submariner

    Oh I dont know it seemed to work for Unionists.

  • submariner

    Totally agree Its a pity we in Ireland did not have control of immigration 400 years ago when foreigners came and destroyed the place.

  • AntrimGael

    I accept that and understand that maybe the President didn’t have much personal input but his Office has been seriously undermined by the refusal to attend the dinner. There was an ALL party agreement on Belfast City Council for a member of EVERY party to attend the Council’s Easter 1916 AND Somme dinners. Unionists on the Council backtracked on the agreement for sectarian reasons and the President’s Office capitulated to this bigotry. There has been no such understanding for the feelings or sentiments of Northern Nationalists with the Irish government attending Somme events in France involving the Orange Order. It’s ONCE AGAIN successive Irish governments and sadly the President’s Office taking sides in order not to offend Britain or Unionism. The old fawning, doffing the cloth cap towards their colonial masters hasn’t gone from Irish society.

  • Abucs

    You are right of course Teddy, but your views are defined as the new ‘bad’ in the manufactured morality rolled out by the juvenile Left and the people stupid enough to follow them.

    The Left have a vision of a bright new world where they tell us we are all together in a happy nirvana. In reality it is the destruction of culture, tradition and nationhood. These things are also defined as bad and need to make way for the forced rule of authoritarian law which underpins their new religion.

    sh…… we can’t call it a religion. They get offended when we do, and them being offended is not allowed in the new religion. Ever.

  • whatif1984true

    Simple flaw in your argument. Ni receives a very large amount from the Treasury (billions?) and has done for ever. We are NOT net contributors to the UK Treasury coffers. Regrettably we are beholden to England as it is they who are the Net contributors to the Treasury.

  • Skibo

    That is not a flaw in my argument but is the whole basis of it.
    We are a sinking fund for Westminster funds if figures are believed. The Treasury has slowly turned the tap back. how many other politicians have to tell you how much the block grant has been reduced over the previous years?
    The block grant is only going one way and that is DOWN.
    The Treasury will have extra funds after Brexit, the full extent will not be realised until after the negotiations are completed but there is evidence to suggest that it will be similar to the rebate that the UK received from the EU.
    Problem will be that if a Tory government is in power, their first project will be to reduce taxes (remember the proposal to reduce Corporation tax well they are now suggesting 15%). There will be little left when that is done.