Five quick Brexit observations

1I’m increasingly willing to see the split verdict as wise: offered stay in EU as-it-is versus get out utterly, the GB public says: make another option.

2. Overheard yesterday in Dublin: ‘So the English are knocked out of Europe twice in one week. Once by Iceland, once by people who shop there.’

3. #CelticPride: This was found pinned to the door of the Welsh Polish Association in Llanelli, South Wales yesterday morning.


4. Overheard: ‘I’ve just realised I’ve never seen a news clip from the European Parliament that wasn’t Nigel Farage being rude to foreigners.’

5. Overseen (@SketchesbyBoze):
VOTERS: we want to give a boat a ridiculous name
UK: no
VOTERS: we want to break up the EU and trash the world economy
UK: fine


  • submariner

    Overheard yesterday in Dublin: ‘So the English are knocked out of Europe twice in one week. Once by Iceland, once by people who shop there.’

    Brilliant and not
    to far away from the truth

  • Chris

    And probably a joke made up by someone on the Left, nobody does put downs of the poor as well as “socialists”.

  • Chingford Man

    “we want to break up the EU and trash the world economy”

    Rubbish, not least because the EUSSR seems to be doing a good enough job of destroying itself and its basket cases. Anyone been to Greece lately? The EUSSR is a bigger threat to the world economy than Brexit because it uses a crude and dangerous tool like the Euro to advance the goal of political unification. Due to its unwise manoeuvres in Ukraine, it has fired up a civil war and risked war with Russia. The sooner it collapses the better.

  • Msiegnaro

    You do realise the English are still in Europe however the people of all of the UK voted to leave the EU. The EU does not equal Europe.

  • eamoncorbett

    Putin was delighted with Brexit , so youv’e got one good friend at least. Chingford man.

  • Acrobat_747

    I have a lot more faith in the Euro than in Sterling. Euro extremely resilient as the last decade has proven. Many expected it to disappear years ago and now it’s gaining strength on stg.

    Anyway, it’s irrelevant. Now we can catch as much fish as we want, build a new hospital every week and never have another foreigner enter this country again. Plus, I’m looking forward to the conservative party having complete control over everything. Much better than the loons in EU.

    It’s over to the exiters to build up this new utopia. If they don’t…. well I suspect there will be serious trouble for them.

  • Jollyraj

    Well, that should end the nonsensical idea about a border poll to keep NI in Europe.

  • On the fence!

    Yes, it SHOULD!

    But given that there wasn’t a lot of wit or logic behind the clamor in the first place, I doubt very much that a sensible logical point will do much, if anything, to silence it.


  • Chingford Man

    The Euro is certainly more resilient than Greece, a country it has wrecked. It may be one of the greatest catastrophes in history.

  • Chingford Man

    I don’t think it will stop some of the daft speculation on Slugger.

  • Chingford Man

    At least he didn’t come her as a guest to tell us we’d be at the back of any queues. Oh and Trump seems another friend.

  • Acrobat_747

    You should study the Greek economy before they even joined the Euro. They always had economic woes. If it wasn’t for the Euro the Greek government would have been printing Drachma and the country would be in much worse shape. I believe that the Euro saved Greece.

    Remember that during the financial crises peak to trough Greek GDP per capita dropped USD10,000. A massive fall. However, the UK also suffered a USD10,000 per capita drop. But the Daily Mail focused on Greece because that paper was on a mission.

    Put your trust in Boris and Nigel if you like, but you will be proved wrong. Of this I am absolutely certain. Just watch, wait and see.

  • Sherdy

    David Cameron has doubts that the English are still in Europe.
    He is now standing on the outside with his nose pressed up against the window, trying to see what’s going on with the other 27 members meeting inside!

  • Chingford Man

    “I believe that the Euro saved Greece.”

    Is this a wind-up?

  • Acrobat_747

    No, it’s not a wind up at all. The problem is that many in the UK are so conditioned to automatically assume that the Euro is a fragile currency that rational or objective thought no longer applies.

    There are many, including many Greek politicians and commentators who have hailed the stability and strength of the Euro. Most if not all experts have expressed the view that the EU has been enormously beneficial to Greece.

  • Chingford Man

    Yeah, it must be great having a currency with an interest rate set in Frankfurt that prevents you from devaluing your way out of recession.

    Do birds fly backwards in your parallel universe?

  • Sir Rantsalot

    Who has hailed the Euro in Greece? Anything i have heard about Greece is anti Euro and pro leave EU. Are you getting this from Western media, or ?

  • Acrobat_747

    The Euro has an inherent stability as it’s linked to Germany and France – both of which are wealthier than UK. Technically Germany could afford to write off all the Greek debts in their entirety. This is a position of serious strength.

    My point being that the Euro disciplined Greece and they will reap the rewards of this in the future.

    In contrast I predict sterling will become relatively worthless. All the BOE money printing will come home to roost. In a decade the Eurozone will be at the forefront of the global economy while the UK will be completely stagnant.

    Brexit might go down as the worst political decision ever made in British history. I think this will be come apparent within the next 12 months. Just you wait and see.

  • Chingford Man

    “My point being that the Euro disciplined Greece and they will reap the rewards of this in the future.”

    Yeah, just in the same way that the RAF spurred on urban regeneration in Hamburg and Dresden.

    I really should keep a record of this exchange. It will look grimly funny if the troubled Deutsche Bank implodes in the near future, Germany has to bail it out and there is then no cash for any more EU bailouts.