Donegal Republicans Received County Council Funding to Commemorate PIRA Members

Donegal Republicans Received County Council Funding to Commemorate PIRA Members
Monday’s Donegal News

It has emerged that after a full page advert appeared this week in a local paper across Donegal commemorating the deaths of IRA men since 1921 that these events have been partly funded by Donegal County Council. The Council funds had been supposedly earmarked for commemorations dealing only with the Dublin rising.

The adverts listed names of IRA men under what was termed ‘Republican roll of honour Tir Chonaill command’ alongside Dublin rebellion figures. The logos of Donegal County Council, the Republic’s Department of Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht, the Department of Environment, Community and Local Government as well as the Dublin government’s official 1916 symbol are all displayed under the names of men such as Gerard McGlynn and Seamus Harvey who blew themselves up transporting a bomb across the border in 1973.

In all 12 events are listed, the organisers of four of which have received official Council funding totaling €1600. Apart from reminding us of another instance of SF double speak, it calls into question what the Council thought happens at Irish Republican Easter commemorations and what the government thinks of it’s symbols being used in the public press to promote modern day terrorism.

Low churchman and unreformed culchie living, working in leafy south Belfast.

  • Ernekid

    To be guilty of whataboutery. This is no different to Councils in the North wasting money on the enviromental disaster sectarian hatefests that are the 11th July bonfires. Councils tend to waste money on stupid things. It’s not breaking news.

  • Whats done is done, and similar to the kind of thing we have to put up with from all ‘sides’ (ask anyone who has to drive past a paramilitary ‘muriel’ every morning), I suppose people will vote with their feet.

  • Saint Etienne

    Not quite. Loyalist bonfires receive money (or at least are meant to) when they meet certain criteria aimed at removing sectarian baggage.

    This would be akin to councils funding the various paramilitary ceremonies that take place outside of the twelfth. Worse than that, as today is a commemoration which the state itself takes part in, the Republic’s insistence that the rebellion and modern day troubles violence are unconnected is muddied once again.

  • Jag

    Hmm, so the Donegal News, a newspaper in the Tyrone-based North West News Group, published an advertisement for a commemoration of PIRA volunteers? I wonder would the Irish Times or Examiner publish such an ad?

    And how do you manage to spend €1,600 (of taxpayers money) on four commemorations. These things are usually small gatherings where people generally bring out their collection of (already purchased) flags, there’s a speech and a short march, often accompanied by a sympathetic band or piper, and the laying of a wreath. That’s it. How do you manage to spend €400-a-pop on that? Do the speakers charge expenses or an appearance fee?

  • Redstar

    Yes quite. The OO receives various sources of official funding and features various unionist terrorists on its banners

  • Ernekid

    You’ve a one track mind. St E. We get it you hate republicanism. Get over it and let other people enjoy their day out.

  • chrisjones2

    You’ve a one track mind. We get it you hate unionism. Get over it and let other people enjoy their day out

  • Angry Mob

    Ernebigot, describes 11th night bonfires as ‘hatefests’ asks for tolerance on easter rising celebrations.

  • Jarl Ulfreksfjordr

    This is, unfortunately, not much of an issue. From a unionist perspective it is abundantly clear that many nationalists view those who instigated the violence in Dublin one hundred years ago as the spiritual forbears of those who’s ‘terrible beauty’ blossomed again blood-red in the late 60s in Northern Ireland.

    The hatred and ambition that drove the “martyrs” in 1916 also fuelled PIRA during the Troubles. Why then should a public body in the republic draw a line between a ‘volunteer’ a century ago and another of twenty or thirty years ago?

    To be fair to the Irish State it has attempted what it regards as a more nuanced approach to the centenary. An approach that the Irish President asks us to look on with “generosity”. Personally I see little to be ‘generous’ about, but I expect that putting a victim alongside his murderer on a postage stamp does it for some.

    Given the contemporary resonance of nationalist bombs and guns in NI, and the many victims and bereaved of the Troubles living on the island, it is in my opinion unfortunate that the centrepiece of the south’s celebrations will be a military parade arrayed in all the Ruritanian splendour that the Irish state can muster.

    However that being said let them get on with it, it’s too nice a day to allow such things to intrude.

  • Thomas Barber

    Its no different than public money being used to build memorial gardens to the so called old UVF who died at the Somme but somehow included modern day UVF and UDA terrorists too.

  • Thomas Barber

    Indeed Redstar those same hypocritical unionists have no problems glorifying the actions of Oliver Cromwell.

  • Reader

    So: should people always complain about misuse of public funds; or never complain about misuse of public funds; or only complain about misuse of public funds when it has annoyed you?

  • submariner

    Its no different than public money being used to build memorial gardens to the so called old UVF who died at the Somme

    Thomas the UVF did not fight at the somme. People who were members of the UVF joined various regiments of the British army and fought much like people who were members of the Irish volunteers did.

  • chrisjones2

    Great man. Etablishged basics principle of Parliamentary Supremacy! Would you rather be ruled by popes or princes?

  • chrisjones2

    Amazed that a newspaper head-quartered in Omagh took this advert

  • Am Ghobsmacht

    “Down with this sort of thing!”

    IMO councils shouldn’t be giving money to commemorate the Provos, the UDA or any other of the alphabet soup organisations.

    Whataboutery just doesn’t cover it anymore.

  • Chingford Man

    If the UK state chose to commemorate the Shankill Butchers with public money, you wouldn’t be so relaxed about people enjoying their day out.

  • Chingford Man

    When has UK public money been spent on events commemorating loyalist terrorists?

  • Thomas Barber

    Are you saying his means justified the ends Chris and I suppose the trivial matter of him being responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent Irish is unimportant.

  • Thomas Barber

    You tell me, the thread is written by a unionist complaing about public money being used inappropriately.

  • Chingford Man

    I wonder, when it comes round to 2021, if the Irish Republic will recall that it won independence on the back of exactly the same tactics practised by the Provisionals?

    When you look back to 1919-21, there was little done by the IRA killers of the day that was not done by many of their grandchildren half a century later.

  • Thomas Barber

    “If the UK state chose to commemorate the Shankill Butchers”

    Are you serious its much more likelly they were employed and paid by the state and dont the Orange Order already honour one of them by giving him membership and absolution for his terrorist actions against the Catholic community.

  • Chingford Man

    What is your evidence that the Shankill Butchers were “employed and paid by the state”?

  • Annie Breensson

    Popes or princes at the helm? Tough choice, but of the two, popes are selected by electoral college – as is at least one president.

    Do HMTQ’s subjects have a choice re which system they would prefer?

  • Thomas Barber

    Other than one of them was a serving member of the UDR, the fact that they were allowed to carry on their terror on the Catholic community for so long even though a well known Shankill Road community activist May Blood claimed on national television that ” The dogs in the street knew who the sahankill butchers were, but somehow, amazingly, the RUC or British intelligence, we are told to believe, knew nothing of their identities. As night follows day its only a matter of time before the truth emerges.

  • Chingford Man

    An opinion of yours plus a comment from May Blood doesn’t constitute evidence.

  • John Collins

    Really. His own country men dug up his remains and unceremoniously chucked them into the River Thames.
    Do you ever wonder why there was never again a serious desire for a republican form of government in GB, while every other country, in Europe, of GBs size has chucked out the royals, even Spain, although they are back there again.
    (It would appear British people must a great yen ‘to be ruled by princes’.)

  • Tochais Siorai

    Out of a total population of around 1.4 million in Ireland, more than half a million are thought to have perished as a result of the Cromwellian campaign (many of them starved as a result of the scorched earth policy carried out by his son in law Henry Ireton).

    Great man, indeed.

  • John Collins

    Who are you, from behind a keyboard, to cast doubt on the words of a brave woman, who was attempting to stand up to the bullies of her own community. If more on both sides in this debate had only half the decency and courage of May Blood this island would be a far better place to live in.

  • Reader

    Thomas Barber: You tell me, the thread is written by a unionist complaing about public money being used inappropriately.
    My answer: we should always complain about misuse of public money. Now, your answer?

    And in general: was it right for nationalists to complain on Slugger about that memorial garden in Bangor being subverted by the ‘community workers’ who were meant to spend the money within the rules? Yes?
    Then you shouldn’t have any objection to a unionist doing exactly the same thing – complaining about public money being misspent by republicans.

  • chrisjones2

    Yes ….we have the murder of Collins, the rise of De Valera, the blowing up of former comrades strapped to landmines , etc etc …a joyous 6 years worth of happy memoires

    I think it was the Irish Times recalled a cartoon from 1922 – Ireland Arises – as men streamed for Cork, Kerry and Donegal to join the tumult in Dublin …queueing for jobs in the Civil Service, Army Garda etc

  • Chingford Man

    No, I just like people to substantiate their assertions. I doubt you would take the word of the average unionist politico without it.

  • Bill Slim

    Typical scumbag republican then eh?

  • Granni Trixie

    And secrarian mind set? That’s what for me is most depressing about lack of progress after GFA – little evidence of political will for political parties to go to th pe voters on their record and policies instead of relying on vote for us to keep themuns out.

  • Granni Trixie

    All that I have read about the Shankll Butchers screams that there are two reasons these murderers Carried on their reign of terror for so long has to be:
    1. The police looked the other way ( I hold a bad apple theory about the police btw)
    2. The SB created a culture around themselves. Using minimalist language for unspeakable violent acts eg talking about “giving a taig a good kicking” plus frightening anyone around them who might not agree with them.

    That said I do not see how you claim these serial killers were “employed by the state” ( with exception of the one you refer to).

  • I completely agree – but I’m only a voter, not a political party.

    I do hold the parties to account on polling day for their actual policies though, as opposed to ‘them’uns’ voting.

    If everyone did the same NI would be a very different place.

  • Kevin Breslin

    If public money has gone to this then it is the type of gonbeenism that is going to ensure Sinn Féin stay on one in Donegal.