Martin McGuinness: “I mean I remember, I remember, I remember…”

Or not, as the case may be.  Faced with evidence to the contrary, the Northern Ireland deputy First Minister, Sinn Féin’s Martin McGuinness, has admitted that he was not, as he had claimed in an interview with RTÉ’s Marian Finucane, in Portlaoise prison when “Patrick Duffy was killed and his body secretly buried”.  As the News Letter reports

In a statement, [Martin McGuinness] said: “The facts are that I served a six-month sentence in Portlaoise jail in 1973 and another in 1974 and during the Marian Finucane interview, I mistakenly recalled that Patrick Duffy was killed and his body secretly buried, while I was in prison.

“I now know that these events occurred in August 1973, in the brief period when I was ‘on the run’, between these two prison sentences.

“I think it is understandable that after a period of four decades my recollection of the exact detail of dates and times was not accurate.

“However, I reject any accusation that I ‘lied’ about this or about my opposition to the disappearance of Patrick Duffy’s remains.

“The truth is that I voiced my strong opposition to Patrick Duffy’s disappearance and that very soon afterwards his body was returned”.

In fact, the “brief period [he] was ‘on the run'” lasted for 9 months, as Dixie Elliot recounted, from 16th May 1973, three months before Patrick Duffy was killed and disappeared, until 11th February 1974, 6 months after the murder – “living in his grandmother’s house in Illies outside Buncrana, Co. Donegal.”

Let’s look again at what Martin McGuinness told Marian Finucane,

MF – Can I ask you a question? Why did the IRA decide to disappear people after they’d been shot?

MMcG
– Yea, Terrible. Absolutely terrible. And very, very wrong in my opinion. It was awful and I suppose in the context of what was a very bitter conflict where terrible things were happening on all sides this was one of the worst things that ever happened.

MF – Can you give us an insight into discussions that might have happened about that?

MMcG
– Well, I wasn’t involved in any of those discussions at all. What I was involved in….

MF – Presumably you noticed it, presumably you knew, you knew…..I’m not asking you to name people or anything like that because…..but you knew people who were involved in the policy decision.

MMcG
– No, I didn’t know people who were involved in the policy decision except to say when I became aware that this was happening I was very much of a view that everything possible should be done by republicans, and we’ve issued countless appeals to republicans who were involved in these scenarios to bring forward information. With considerable success. But there are still outstanding cases to be resolved.

MF – I appreciate that and I know how difficult it is for the families and all of that, very much so. But I thought that if somebody was a tout and they were going to be shot, that they would be shot and they would be left there as an example. What thinking came round to disappearing people?

MMcG – Well, only the people who took the decision can answer that question. I mean I remember, I remember, I remember being in Portlaoise prison in 1974 I think it was, and a man from Derry had been shot and the story was that he had been disappeared and had been buried somewhere or wherever and I was absolutely furious about it and it was actually when I got out of prison I met with local republicans and voiced my opposition and criticism of what happened and very soon afterwards that man’s body was returned. [added emphasis]

By Martin McGuinness’ own admission, his proffered sequence of events was entirely false.

It did, however, place him outside of any discussions about “the policy decision” for the purposes of the interview with RTÉ’s Marian Finucane.

What Martin McGuinness hasn’t yet addressed – given his claims of being “absolutely furious”, “horrified when [he] heard that this had happened” and having “voiced [his] strong opposition to Patrick Duffy’s disappearance” – is his appearance in Londonderry at a Provisional IRA commemoration on 18th August 1973.  Patrick Duffy was ‘disappeared’ on the 9th August 1973.

According to the Derry Journal report of 21st August, “McGuinness was introduced as a member of Oglaigh Na h-Eireann”.  From the Pensive Quill post

…far from being inside a prison cell at this time of Patrick Duffy’s death, McGuinness actually showed up on the streets of Derry just nine days after the alleged informer’s death and burial in a secret grave and shared a platform with another republican who condemned clerical criticism of Duffy’s killing and disappearance.

According to the Derry Journal, 21st August 1973, Martin McGuinness ‘made a dramatic public appearance’ at a Provisional IRA commemoration ceremony on the 18th August to mark the 2nd Anniversary of the death of Volunteer Eamonn Lafferty.

About 700 Republicans attended the ceremony at which McGuinness spoke before Barney McFadden, a leading member of Derry Sinn Fein, who condemned local priests who had called for the return of the body at Mass that morning. The priest’s condemnation and that of politicians was carried on the same page of the Journal.

And Newshound has transcribed Suzanne Breen’s report from the Sunday Life

At the rally, McGuinness shared a platform with Sinn Féin member Barney McFadden who, to loud applause, condemned a Catholic priest for calling on the IRA to return Duffy’s body.

The IRA sprinkled Patrick Duffy’s body with lime to speed up its decomposition once it was secretly buried.

Dixie Elliot and Mickey Donnelly said its exhumation and return to the family 16 days after Duffy’s disappearance was due solely to IRA internees in Long Kesh who voiced their disgust to McGuinness.

Donnelly said: “McGuinness’s account of what happened is a fairytale. He’s rewriting history to portray himself as a good guy.

“Our cage in Long Kesh was appalled when we heard the IRA had secretly buried someone. Being an informer carries the penalty of execution but it was another matter altogether to disappear a man.

“We wrote to McGuinness telling him the IRA were socialist republicans, not fascists. We said every family had the right to bury their dead with dignity.

“Patrick Duffy’s wife had worked tirelessly for republican prisoners. She had seven wee children at home, the youngest was only six weeks.

“We told McGuinness who was the OC (officer commanding) of Derry that if the body wasn’t returned we would condemn the IRA action publicly and embarrass the leadership.”

Donnelly said the ‘comm’, which was smuggled out of jail, was taken directly to McGuinness by his wife Martina: “She handed it to him personally. We told him in no uncertain terms what he had to do.”

The Derry internees’ threat worked because Duffy’s body was dug up by the IRA and left in a brand new coffin inside a car abandoned on the Derry-Donegal border on 24 August.

As Dixie Elliot told the Sunday Life

“There’s a pattern here of IRA leaders trying to distance themselves from unpleasant events. Gerry Adams told the McConvilles he was in jail when Jean disappeared when, just like Martin, he clearly was not.”

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  • Fortlands

    How odd that two of the sources quoted should be openly and consistently opposed to and contemptuous of Martin McGuinness. It really is time that this zeroing in on specific horrors from our past and trying to hang them round the neck of one person/part or another ( in fact almost always around a SF neck) was ended, if people are at all serious about making a better future together. The entire tone of the blog is one of ‘He lied, he lied, oh good we’ve caught him lying’. Hardly mature political analysis.

  • Roy Walsh

    As is normal with ‘political interviews’, did Martin McGuinness have access to the questions pre interview so being very able to provide fluffy answers to Marian Finucane’s re-posing of the questions.
    Similarly with the questions he provided answer’s to for the Newsletter?
    A handy way to retell the story after your lack of frankness is exposed by a former colleague who knew the truth.

  • cynic2

    How odd that the OC in Derry knew nothing about it

  • Roy Walsh

    Ah now, you’re just being cynical!

  • iluvni

    Would the PSNI be allowed to question him without Sinn Fein going into ‘how dare they’ mode again?

  • Zeno

    How odd that two of the sources quoted should be openly and consistently opposed to and contemptuous of Martin McGuinness.
    Fortlands
    I don’t see what is at all odd about that. The fact is he brought in on himself by telling blatant lies. The fact that the lies were designed to make himself look just and noble only makes it worse. Should journalists not be allowed to expose Sinn Fein lies?

  • babyface finlayson

    How odd that Jude Collins should be attacking the messengers rather than addressing the message.
    Lies are blatently being told to us. Not just ‘I never smoked pot’ kind of lies, but lies that are designed to remove any suggestion of involvement in events by those telling us lies.
    As Jude himself said on the reaction of southern politicians to the arrest of Gerry Adams
    “To paraphrase Jeremy Paxman: why are these lying bastards lying to us?”.

  • megatron

    I am married with 4 children and the events in question happened years before I was born. I couldnt care less if Martin McGuinness remembered incorrectly or deliberately lied.

    Well done Pete for catching him out – I’ll buy you a pint when I see you as a prize. Keep up the good work.

  • Dixie Elliott

    “How odd that two of the sources quoted should be openly and consistently opposed to and contemptuous of Martin McGuinness…”

    Fortlands aka Jude Collins, typical of the man, hasn’t any answers except that regularly spewed out by the average Adamsite.

    The ‘they are opposed to or are anti Sinn Fein/Gerry Adams’ nonsense doesn’t take away from the fact that McGuinness quite clearly claimed he was in jail when Patrick Duffy was disappeared. He was categoric as to how he felt about the disappearance while in jail yet he now admits he wasn’t in jail when he was ‘absolutely furious’ and ‘it was actually when I got out of prison I met with local republicans and voiced my opposition and criticism of what happened.’

    Does he expect anyone outside of the exceptionally gullible to believe that he forgot all about standing beside Barney McFadden as he criticised Priests who were calling for the return of the body?

    If he is so adamant that he got the IRA to return Duffy’s body then how could he forget where he was when Duffy was disappeared?

    By continually referring to the IRA as ‘they’ he was putting distance between himself and the IRA. He does admit being in the IRA up to 1974, he spoke at least twice in front of TV cameras as a leading member of Derry IRA described by his interviewer Tom Mangold as ‘ the officer commanding the Derry part of the IRA Provisionals.’ He also appeared as part of an IRA press conference in 1972.

    And yet less than or up to a year later, according to himself, the local IRA killed and disappeared a man without consulting him or behind his back even and that he had to meet them to get the body returned?

    I’ll stop there as its so absurd its no wonder the likes of Jude Collins has pathetically little in regards to an argument in defense of McGuinness.

  • Dixie Elliott

    Well megatron if you couldn’t care less you certainly took the bother to tell everyone that you couldn’t care less.

  • son of sam

    I look forward to Fortlands response to Dixie’s post above.However,I suppose as one of the true believers,Jude probably reckons that anybody who dares to criticise the bona fides of Martin or Gerry is automatically up to no good!

  • Delphin

    Collusion Dossier – [from the SF web site]
    “For 30 years, the British government, through its agencies – MI5, British Military Intelligence and RUC/PSNI Special Branch – has been involved in the murder of citizens in Ireland. Together, they directed the activities of various unionist paramilitary death squads. This was much more than simply passing on information. This was about the deliberate and orchestrated targeting and assassination of hundreds of citizens”.

    Seeing it is SF policy to hold the British state to account, one would think it reasonable that SF members holding positions of power in the ‘statelet’ or potentially in the Irish state should be similarly accountable.

  • RegisterForThisSite

    Well Dixie it was 40 years ago, he was in prison, on the run and got married that year ……but anyway

    “Does he expect anyone outside of the exceptionally gullible to believe that he forgot all about standing beside Barney McFadden as he criticised Priests who were calling for the return of the body?”

    How did the crowd react, would they have reacted positively if he had criticized the IRA publicly?

    Where the prisoners public in their condemnation at the time, why not?

    I think you claim he was in the area at the time of the abduction, are you basing this on him been on the run and his granny living there, seems stupid to stay at your grannies when there were so many other safe houses available in lots of places!

    “…If he is so adamant that he got the IRA to return Duffy’s body then how could he forget where he was when Duffy was disappeared? ….”

    No offence to the poor man but it’s hardly a “where were you when you heard Elvis had die” moment, esp if you’re like on the run, just out of prison and getting married around that time,

    “…By continually referring to the IRA as ‘they’ he was putting distance between himself and the IRA. He does admit being in the IRA up to 1974, he spoke at least twice in front of TV cameras as a leading member of Derry IRA described by his interviewer Tom Mangold as ‘ the officer commanding the Derry part of the IRA Provisionals.’ He also appeared as part of an IRA press conference in 1972….”

    Being honest, that all makes sense to me

    “….And yet less than or up to a year later, according to himself, the local IRA killed and disappeared a man without consulting him or behind his back even and that he had to meet them to get the body returned?…”

    Was he still in the IRA? didn’t a vol lose all external responsibilities in prison, was he OC if he was still in the IRA at the time, what about Mickey Donnelly he was in a senior bod, what was his influence while in prison was he message to MMcG an order?

    @Delphin

    “…, one would think it reasonable that SF members holding positions of power in the ‘statelet’ or potentially in the Irish state should be similarly accountable….”

    And what about Gilmore and the other stickies in the Labour Party (as Mary Lou pointed out to The Moan on NewsTalk) and then there is all the vital information being with-held by the both London and Dublin governments
    Was he OC? I thought vols lost all responsibilities if in situations like in prison or on the ru

  • RegisterForThisSite

    @iluvni

    “…Would the PSNI be allowed to question him without Sinn Fein going into ‘how dare they’ mode again?…”

    I believe the PSNI’s search criteria was

    (“gerry adams” OR “martin mcguinness”) AND ira

    I’m reliably told that they also tried wikipedia, so they should have arrested him by now.

  • pauluk

    ‘Terrible. Absolutely terrible.’

    Being a liar is one thing, but this pretence is absolutely nauseating.

  • cynic2

    How did he manage to resign from the IRA at the peak of the troubles? I always understood that wasn’t allowed.

    And why did he then abandon his comrades? Was it a crisis of conscience? An existential ethical dilemma?

  • Dixie Elliott

    Is RegisterForThisSite serious? I’m referring to his rather lengthy but meaningless response to my post?

    For example:

    “How did the crowd react, would they have reacted positively if he had criticized the IRA publicly?”

    No one claimed that he should have turned to McFadden and said, “No the Priests are right the body should be returned!”

    But the fact is in spite of his claims that he was ‘absolutely furious’ in regards to the disappearance he still hadn’t made these so called opinions known, especially to the person who stood beside him condemning the priests…

    “Where the prisoners public in their condemnation at the time, why not?”

    Again absolute nonsense in that the prisoners made it clear that ‘If the body wasn’t returned, they’d publicly condemn it.” Its there in the article if you had bothered to read it.

    As for staying at his Grannys clearly you know nothing of the IRA in Derry especially at that time. McGuinness did stay at his grannys cottage while others lived in old caravans etc. In fact the joke was, McGuinness is staying at his granny’s cottage which is not actually being on the run, its in fact staying at his Grannys cottage…

    If you followed the full interview you’ll see he in fact refers to staying at ‘his Granny’s cottage.’

    ” but it’s hardly a “where were you when you heard Elvis had die” moment,”

    I was on The Blanket Protest in H Block 5 actually when Elvis died. Bing Crosby also died that year as did Groucho Marx. The screws used to tell us these things but again your attempt at defending McGuinness is absurd.

    “Was he still in the IRA? didn’t a vol lose all external responsibilities in prison, was he OC”

    He was only in Jail about 5 months in 1973, he got released on 16th May in fact. However, again this shows just how much you know about the IRA. If a Vol lost all external responsibilities in prison how come Adams was released from Internment to take part in the talks with the Brits at Cheyne Walk in June 1972 as part of the IRA leadership?

    In fact The IRA insisted Adams be included in that meeting at which Martin McGuinness was also in attendance.

    However having dug myself out of the usual pile of bullshite thrown out to cover the smell emanating from the SF leadership I’ll finish by adding that its clear McGuinness had to change his story from ‘I was in jail at the time’ to ‘oh I just remembered I wasn’t in jail at the the time.’

  • RegisterForThisSite

    “No one claimed that he should have turned to McFadden and said, “No the Priests are right the body should be returned!”…”

    so why do you keep bringing it up, is it to claim he should have remembered addressing a rally 40 years and why do you stress his criticism of the priests?

    “he still hadn’t made these so called opinions known, especially to the person who stood beside him condemning the priests…”

    ??????? lost me, how do you know he didn’t, why would he?

    “Again absolute nonsense in that the prisoners made it clear that ‘If the body wasn’t returned, they’d publicly condemn it.” Its there in the article if you had bothered to read it.”

    I did, also read his interview from a few years ago ” Derry internees smuggled a message out to Mr McGuinness from Long Kesh, expressing their disgust. ”

    The earlier version is much more plausible, for instance, had there been a threat by Derry Vols to publicly condemn the killing what would have been the consequences if they had carried it out, surely this threat would have to have been discussed with the prisoners OC before been issued, would the Derry Vols have been removed from the republican block as others in the IRA (and guessing in the prison) were ok with disappearing, would they have been dismissed by the IRA, surely a public split in the IRA would have been manna from heaven for the British, out of 3000 killings why would the Derry Vols damage the republican movement so much with a public condemnation about one person and someone considered an informer

    “If a Vol lost all…..”

    you’re the expect, you tell me

    “how come Adams was released from Internment to take part in the talks with the Brits at Cheyne Walk in June 1972 as part of the IRA leadership? ”

    IRA leadership or IRA delegation/representation, was Myles Shevlin part of the IRA leadership or an IRA delegation/representation at the time.

    “If you followed the full interview you’ll see he in fact refers to staying at ‘his Granny’s cottage.”

    the question was, was he there during the event, but as an aside sorry to hear about the Derry Vols, further south in Donegal, ‘on the runs’ got the spare bedroom, they also moved around every few days and didn’t stay in caravans mainly cause caravan parks are full of strangers, better a house on the outskirts or rural where gardai and strangers are soon spotted.

  • Mick Fealty

    Register, I think you’re missing the point somewhat.

    Dixie doesn’t have a case to answer. Martin on the other hand does. Can you produce a reliable answer to the question of where he was when the action took place?

    Somehow, I think not.

  • http://gravatar.com/joeharron Mister_Joe

    Remember remember, just before September,
    Murder, disappearance and plot.
    It can’t be rightful that something so frightful
    Should ever be forgot.

  • Dixie Elliott

    RegisterForThisSite you are clearly now replying for the sake of replying as your points are becoming more absurd.

    McGuinness clearly said he was in jail when Duffy was disappeared, he said he was ‘absolutely furious’ – ‘and it was actually when I got out of prison I met with local republicans and voiced my opposition and criticism of what happened and very soon afterwards that man’s body was returned…’

    But when it was pointed out that he was not in fact in prison he ‘remembered’ something different about having the body returned.

    So we are expected to believe that 9 days after a local informer, the husband of someone who worked for prisoners, was shot and disappeared that he appeared at a rally not knowing that it had happened despite the fact that local clergy and politicians were condemning it publicly. That after Barney McFadden criticised it he only found out and had the body returned?

    In fact the IRA actually put a death notice for Duffy in the Derry Journal to indicate that they had killed him.

    Therefore the Derry Brigade of the IRA had done all this and McGuinness didn’t know about it?

    Only the desperately deluded would believe that to be so.

  • RegisterForThisSite

    “So we are expected to believe that 9 days after a local informer, the husband of someone who worked for prisoners, was shot and disappeared that he appeared at a rally not knowing that it had happened despite the fact that local clergy and politicians were condemning it publicly. That after Barney McFadden criticised it he only found out and had the body returned?”

    er, No, we’re expected to believe that he should have recalled those events from 41 years in the middle of a interview. Specific rally he was at, what he said, the date, the who was killed the circumstances etc, in the middle of a time when people where been killed daily, when he has spoken at thousands of rallies and when he has said lots.

    The only thing that stands out is the recent knowledge that the the Derry prisoners were on the verge of staging a revolt against the IRA leadership over the killing of an informer. Now that’s a story because I never heard it before and when the same bloke gave the same interview to the same reporter 3 years ago he forgot to mention it.

    Which is amazing as it surely would have been a massive talking point in the prison at the time, my question still stand what preparations had been made by the Derry prisoners in the event that they were made to follow through on their threat, I would imagine that they would not have been safe the republican wing of the prison. Where there any repercussions when the prisoners involved were released, find it hard to believe the Army Council would allow anyone involved in making the threat to remain in the organisation

    @Mick

    story in 2014

    “It was there that he received a note carried by the wife of one of the republican internees from Derry informing him that if the body wasn’t returned to the family then they would condemn Duffy’s disappearance publicly, an act that would cause huge embarrassment and discomfort to the Derry IRA leadership.”

    story in 2011

    “a group of Derry internees smuggled a message out to Mr McGuinness from Long Kesh, expressing their disgust.

    one is an expression of disgust, the other is a threat to destabilize the IRA at the time.

    Worth noting that the republican rally applauded the speakers when they criticized the priest, so is it fair to say the republican movement in Derry was standing with the IRA while the Vol in prison were standing with the priest to the extent that they would publically denounce the Derry republican community all for the sake of returning the body of an informer at a time when the IRA was under immense strain.

  • RegisterForThisSite

    “…Can you produce a reliable answer to the question of where he was when the action took place?…”

    Mick it would appear that he was living openly at his grannies a few miles from where the action took place. Turns out everyone in Derry knew he was there to the extent that some random prisoners wife turned up at his safe house with a letter for him, the letter was to do with an informer who helped prisoners wifes!!!!

    But it would appear that if the poor man was an informer he was a rubbish one as he was the only person who didn’t know where MMcG was, which was lucky for MMcG as I expect the Gardai would have been straight around after the action, esp as Slugger informs me MMcG ordered the murder. But then again everyone knew so the guards and RUC must have known where he was too

    Mick trying to believe the story but struggling, can we go back to the H-Block revolt by the Derry Vols, as I think we can agree that if you are going to threaten the leadership of the IRA you need to be prepared to follow through, Yes? No?

  • RegisterForThisSite

    Silly question, but as MMcG, Adams, the Claudy bombers and God knows who else stayed at the grannies farm, I’m guessing as it was a farm it would have been ideal for Shergar to stay there too. Does Dixie have any info on this, don’t suppose he shared a cell with Lester Piggott did he

  • RegisterForThisSite

    Serious question why didn’t Mickey mention the ‘fact’ that only MMcG could have ordered the Murder in the 2011 interview, I would have thought that in a story about a murder, having the name of the murderer would be fairly central and wouldn’t the previous stories on this been checked while while covering it this time round and no-one seems to have spotted this huge omission in 2011

    So two things we have learned recently.

    1) Derry Vols. in the H-Blocks planned a public revolt against the leadership of the IRA in 1974

    2) MMcG ordered Patrick Duffy’s murder

    actually 3 things

    3) The IRA in Derry were a bit of a joke, everyone knew pretty much what was going on you could even pop around to deliver a letter in person to a Vol on the run and Vols. could not be trusted to be loyal to the organisation if they didn’t get what they wanted.

  • RegisterForThisSite

    Probably worth putting August 1973 into context for those who are not familiar with what was going on then, obviously these are just the notable incidents there were countless others happening at the same time,

    3 August 1973: IRA members shot dead a civilian who was delivering wages to the British Leyland factory on Cashel Road, Dublin. They were carrying-out an armed robbery.[61]
    11 August 1973: An IRA volunteer died when the bomb he was transporting exploded prematurely in a car at Kilclean, County Donegal.[61]
    11 August 1973: An IRA assault team consisting of over 20 volunteers surrounded Crossmaglen RUC barracks. The barracks was hit with rockets, mortars and machine gun fire. The RUC fired a large number of shots at the unit. There were no serious injuries on either side.[74]
    13 August 1973: The IRA shot dead an off-duty RUC Reservist at his workplace on Cathedral Road, Armagh town.[61]
    16 August 1973: Two IRA volunteers were killed when a mortar prematurely exploded during an attack on Pomeroy British Army/RUC base, County Tyrone.[61] The IRA attacked the base for about an hour with machine-guns, a dozen mortars and three rockets.[75]
    18 August 1973: Two IRA firebombs exploded at Harrods Department store in London causing slight damage.[64]
    20 August 1973: Book bombs were sent to a number of places in London including the Old Bailey and the Union Jack Club. Ten incendiary devices were also defused in Londons West End.[64]
    22 August 1973: An IRA book bomb exploded at the Conservative Party Central Office in London.[64]
    23 August 1973: The IRA accidentally shot dead a civilian as she drove her car at Tullyvallan, County Armagh. The sniper had mistaken her car for that of a UDR soldier.[61]
    23 August 1973: A book bombs was sent to the Lieutenant General of the Ministry of Defence in London but was defused. An IRA bomb in a tube station in London was also defused.[64]
    24 August 1973: A civilian was found shot dead in a car on Buncrana Road, Derry. The IRA said it killed him for being an informer.[61]
    24 August 1973: One person was injured when an IRA letterbomb exploded at the London Stock Exchange.[64]
    25 August 1973: One person was injured when an IRA letterbomb exploded at the Bank of England in London. An IRA bomb was also defused in Oxford Street.[64]
    25 August 1973: The IRA shot an undercover British soldier outside Royal Victoria Hospital, Belfast. He died on 18 September 1973.[61]
    27 August 1973: The IRA destroyed The Royal Bastion monument to British Governor Walker in Derry with a large bomb.[76][77]
    28 August 1973: The IRA shot dead a UDR soldier in the Culdee area of Armagh town.[61]
    29 August 1973: Two IRA bombs exploded in Solihull Shopping Centre in England. A building society was extensively damaged.[64]
    30 August 1973: A British Army officer was killed while trying to defuse an IRA bomb at Tullyhommon Post Office, County Fermanagh.[61]
    23 August 1973: Two IRA volunteers were hurt in a premature explosion in a house on Elaine Street, Belfast. One died on 30 August and the other died on 1 September 1973.[61]
    30 August 1973: A shoe shop in London was destroyed by an IRA firebomb and a bomb was defused at Baker Street tube station.[64]
    31 August 1973: One IRA volunteer was killed and another wounded in a shootout with the British Army on Ballymurphy Road, Belfast. The other died on 22 September 1973.[61]
    31 August 1973: Three vehicles were damaged when an IRA bomb exploded on Old Quebec Street in London.[64]

  • Terry B

    RegisterForThisSite,
    there were no H-Blocks in 1973.

  • RegisterForThisSite

    @Terry

    Bugger you’re right, just checked they were opened in 1976, you know what that means I’m just as big a liar as MMcG, well well well, I have questions to answer on that one

  • Dixie Elliott

    RegisterForThisSite is typical of the desperately deluded in that he goes to enormous lengths to try and prove that McGuinness isn’t a liar despite all the evidence proving he is.

    Trying to get through to the desperately deluded is like chasing chickens round a farm yard.

    As Terry B pointed out the H-Blocks were still 3 years away from being built when McGuinness claimed he was in jail down South.

    However to stop Registeretc pestering us with his nonsense about what Mickey Donnelly said in 2011 here is the article from that time which begins….

    “A veteran republican has revealed how the IRA in Derry were told to stop burying the bodies of executed informers in bogs.

    Mickey Donnelly, a very senior republican in Derry in the 1970s and former close associate of Martin McGuinness, says the order came from senior Derry republican activists who were interned in Long Kesh….”

    http://www.nuzhound.com/articles/breen/arts2011/oct2_Stop_having_informers_disappeared__SBreen_Irish-Mail-on-Sunday.php

    The desperately deluded RegisterForThisSite conveniently left out parts of the article to suit his narrative. But thats what the desperately deluded tend to do.

  • RegisterForThisSite

    “As Terry B pointed out the H-Blocks were still 3 years away from being built when McGuinness claimed he was in jail down South.”

    ROFLMAO, that’s so funny, you’re not looking to stable here Thomas

    anyhoos now that you’ve found that story can you tell me why it’s so different from his version of events 3 years later, I’ve already asked but happy to ask again.

    story in 2014

    “It was there that he received a note carried by the wife of one of the republican internees from Derry informing him that if the body wasn’t returned to the family then they would condemn Duffy’s disappearance publicly, an act that would cause huge embarrassment and discomfort to the Derry IRA leadership.”

    story in 2011

    “a group of Derry internees smuggled a message out to Mr McGuinness from Long Kesh, expressing their disgust.

  • RegisterForThisSite

    Thomas saw this today and thought of you….

    “…translated from Hebrew a line I will always remember “Don’t threaten a whore with a dick!!!”. If you are going to threaten somebody over utter rubbish through a scenario you yourself created, you better be prepared for the consequences….”

    Whole load of questions up there for you Thomas, you’ve not answered a single one,

    Incidentally, you need to get Mick to fix the OP for you Pete forgot to use your full title “Thomas ‘Dixie’ Elliot – I shared a cell with Bobby Sands” gotta protect the auld branding Thomas, you’d be nothing without it

  • RegisterForThisSite

    Oh yeah, forgot the other core question,

    how come Mickey forgot to mention that MMcG was responsible for the murder in his 2011 interview, but remembered it in 2014, thats a serious omission yes? in an article about a murder yes?

    over to you Thomas but shalln’t hold me breath on getting any sense

  • Dixie Elliott

    Now I’d say that RegisterForThisSite has well and truly lost the plot….

    Adamsism at it’s fanatical worst.