“neither should loyalists use the flag issue as an excuse to stir up sectarian strife”

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Paisley, K Reverend, scion of the founder of the DUP has had this to say on #flegs:

“Perhaps [UUP MLA] Tom Elliott is right when he says ‘people should not deliberately confuse sovereignty with identity’.

“However, neither should loyalists use the flag issue as an excuse to stir up sectarian strife, or to attack the PSNI, to the delight of dissident republicans.

“If they are as patriotic as they claim, then perhaps they should come to Britain and see how things are done here.

“The Union flag is not flown on public buildings on the mainland 365 days a year – not even from Buckingham Palace.

“But hardly a soul in England considers this an undermining of national sovereignty or detrimental to cultural identity.”

The Rev Paisley proposed a “compromise” in Belfast City Council, suggesting that it could fly the Cross of St Patrick on those days that are not designated for the Union Flag because “all sections of the community in Northern Ireland can identify with Patrick”.

  • Mc Slaggart

    “all sections of the community in Northern Ireland can identify with Patrick”

    Very true but then again not everyone identifies with the ” Cross of St Patrick”.

    A 2 flag solution is the only one that will work. Antrim & Down flags on “city” hall would look cool.

  • Sp12

    So on the days the union flag doesn’t fly, another flag which Nationalists don’t identify with should fly?
    I can see why the article nested the word compromise in rabbit ears.
    I wonder what his Dad thinks about his views on stirring up sectarian strife over a flag? ;)

  • between the bridges

    Tbf to the Rev it’s a fairly moderate view for a FP minister, obviously spending far too much time with the heathen English…

  • socaire

    What about us pagans?

  • http://www.selfhatinggentile.blogger.com tmitch57

    “A 2 flag solution is the only one that will work. Antrim & Down flags on “city” hall would look cool.”

    @McSlaggart,

    The whole purpose of flying a flag from the Belfast City Hall–the de facto capital building of NI is to demonstrate sovereignty. When you say only a two-flag solution will work you are saying that only joint sovereignty will work. Joint sovereignty doesn’t exist anywhere except possibly in Andorra. It is also in conflict with the GFA, which SF as well as the SDLP signed up for. So, until UK sovereignty is replaced with Irish sovereignty following a referendum, the Union flag will fly. Afterwards only the tricolor will fly, hopefully, also only on a limited number of days.

  • Mc Slaggart

    tmitch57

    “Belfast City Hall–the de facto capital building of NI”

    I do not mean to be nasty but that line did make me laugh. I know that is your view of the thing and that is that.

    “Joint sovereignty doesn’t exist anywhere ”

    Yet the nationalist people of northern Ireland have a president.

    The EU works on the basis of shared sovereignty and it has a lot of countries in it.

  • Mc Slaggart

    tmitch57

    BTW: I was suggesting that Belfast would be better off not flying any national flag. A flag of a sinking ship might work?

  • Republic of Connaught

    Tmitch:

    “Afterwards only the tricolor will fly, hopefully, also only on a limited number of days.”

    I don’t imagine the Tricolour will be the flag of a new 32 county All Ireland state. So the unionists will never have to witness the Tricolour fly above Belfast city hall as the sovereign flag.

    All the more reason for nationalists to want to see the Union Jack down as well.

  • ayeYerMa

    In England, such policies aren’t changed to appease the veiled threat by an insurgent terrorist organisation.

  • Banjaxed

    @AyeYerMa
    Would you be referring to Billy Hutchinson’s and Ugly Doris’ UVF, by any chance?

  • Master McGrath

    Its quite obvious the beneficial effect of NOT living in NI can have – I do not agree with all the man says but a lot of it makes sense, is clear and understandable – contrast with his twins interview on the View when he confuses Ulster and NI as being the same area and then goes off into speculative ramblings when questioned by answering questions that are not being put.
    Kyle P should be given credit for growing up on the basis of what he says.
    365 days for the flag at Buck House?? don’t think that will run as an idea.

  • Greenflag

    Republic of Connaught ,

    ‘I don’t imagine the Tricolour will be the flag of a new 32 county All Ireland state.’

    Why not ? It’s served the State for almost a century and it’s only 45 years younger than the Union Jack . But I would’nt want it flown 365 days a year over Belfast City Hall . Twice a year should be enough St Patrick’s Day and Easter Monday just to remind ex unionists which country they are living in . I suppose the Union Jack could be flown on July 12th as a reminder to the British minority in that part of Ireland of their British cultural heritage . Shure why not ?

  • Alan N/Ards

    Greenflag
    Do you want to unite the people of the island or just the landmass? If it’s the people then a new flag etc would make it a lot easier for unionist’s to buy in to it. I would hate to think a UI would be about nationalist’s dominating unionist’s and that we should know our place.

  • Morpheus

    What are your feelings on Northern Ireland getting a new flag as well to help nationalists buy in Alan?

    I strongly agree with your overall post though. If I thought for a single minute that the unionist people – my family, friends and colleagues- felt so discriminated against in a UI that they needed to form their own Civil Rights Movement just to get equal treatment then they can shove the idea of a UI right now. I want a country of equals and I mean equals, I do not want equality with terms and conditions or small print.

  • Alan N/Ards

    Morpheus

    I would support a new flag for NI. I believe that it is the way forward. I would also support an irish language act for NI.

  • IrelandNorth

    The British union flag is perceived as threatening to anyone from an Irish nationalist or republican background, many of whom would find its individual national emblems flow seperately less intimidating and overpowering. Therefore, flying them seperately would be culturally generous. Transiting by land or sea from anywhere in Ireland through Great Britain to the mainland, one sees much less preoccupation with this kiind of vulgar territorialism. Time to get with the programme of macrounionism, me thinks.

  • zep

    I’m sure I remember a number of nationalists onhere ruling out the idea of a NI-specific flag as it recognises the legitimacy of NI as a separate entity.