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BTW, who did kidnap Kevin McGeever?

Tue 5 February 2013, 10:09am

I’m grateful to Tom Sykes for collating the strange story of the kidnapping and imprisonment of Kevin McGeever. To be stored in the curious and strangely unexplained category… [Only legal answers to the rhetorical question in the title will be allowed...]

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  1. tacapall (profile) says:

    A strange case and contrary to reports, the word thief was not carved into his forehead it was written with a marker type pen. His demeanor to police suggests either he’s deliberately misleading them or he was drugged. Was this a tiger kidnapping, was money paid for his release, its strange that the first person who he asked for help, the number he give the couple who found him, refused to help him saying it was too far away. maybe some people know more than they are saying and simply did not want to get involved for fear of ambush.

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  2. Mick Fealty (profile) says:

    Just the sheer length of time, and the starvation involved. Odd, odd, odd.

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  3. carl marks (profile) says:

    Could this be some sort of nervous breakdown?
    There seem to be a lot of things that don’t fit into the patterns we associate with kidnapping.
    It’s hard to see what the kidnapper’s motive was, if no money was asked for,
    There are some things which I don’t believe; the thief thing on his head has already been dealt with but 3 inch fingernails that would be a year’s growth surely and even a naked man can bite his fingernails unless he was tied in such a way as to not be able to reach them, and although I’m no expert but tying someone’s hands up for a year solid would cause severe damage to the wrists and also result in severe muscle wastage so I think we can assume that either the fingernails thing is incorrect or a choice made by Mr Mc Geever and I’m back to some sort of breakdown,
    Such a choice would make personal hygiene impossible and going to the toilet very unpleasant.

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  4. Mick Fealty (profile) says:

    Do we know what the effects of solitary confinement are on mental health? My understanding is that even in prison (where the regime is at least predictable) more than a few weeks segues into the torture area.

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  5. Truly bizarre story. Only knew part of his name and yet had telephone number at hand? There must be lots more to this that only time will reveal.

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  6. carl marks (profile) says:

    Mick
    who knows,
    if we apply Occams Razor then a nervous breakdown of some type is the simplest explanation that fits what we know of the facts,
    however as thedissenter points out there is a lot we dont know,
    a mobile unused and just out of the box would be low on charge and indeed could have been handed to him by his captors, but that doesnt fit into most kidnap patterns.

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  7. Mick Fealty (profile) says:

    Well, may be. None of it fits the patterns, which is what makes it odd. The chances are that being held in solitary through summer and winter with only occasional food, might just give rise to mental distress.

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  8. carl marks (profile) says:

    Mick Fealty
    Yes certainly locked up in a container for a year and badly fed would drive any but the strongest to a breakdown,
    But to hold someone for such a period smacks of a personal grudge and not the actions of a criminal gang.
    The film misery springs to mind.
    I can’t recall any searches (normally in the case of a missing person Mountain rescue teams from around the island are utilised and they get news coverage) over the last year or so for this man, no police press conferences.
    I could have missed it but did nobody notice him missing and bring their concerns to the authorities?

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  9. carl marks (profile) says:

    Another point that comes to mind is that I doubt a person could survive in a unheated container with minimum food over the winter, even with a four season sleeping bag and a good quality roll in my (not inexperienced) opinion Hyperthermia would be certain, without the proper calorie intake Mr Mc Geever would have quickly (a matter of days) entered stage 3 hyperthermia and passed away in his sleep.
    Again the container may have been heated but if you care so little that he is only getting a ham sandwich a day and willing to let him go mad heating the container seems out of pattern.

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  10. Absolute nightmare.
    That kinda cruelty would surely be personal.
    And as the whole story is bizarre…and I must emphasise that I’m prepared to take it at face value….then the component parts of the story are bizarre.
    Nervous breakdown seems a strong possibility because even in fiction (a classic Twilight Zone episode…prisoner trying to escape by being buried alive or a New Tricks episode locked in container) the resulting deaths were accidental and played on our fears.

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  11. Mark (profile) says:

    How did he escape ? or was he released …. did he come to an understanding with his captors (?) that if they let him go , he’d ” payback ” the money ” he owed , that’s if this is about money in the first place . Sounds like he may have been ” washing ” ill gotten gains through his company in the Middle East and that went belly up . Wait til he finds out those ham sambo’s might not have been ham at all …just have to wait for the film to come out .

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  12. carl marks (profile) says:

    fitzjameshorse1745
    I can’t take at face value; the poor man may well believe that is what happened to him indeed if as I suspect he has had some sort of breakdown caused by ill treatment or whatever he will be very confused as regards where he has been and what happened to him over the period in question.
    The phone, the fingernails, and the container story don’t make sense. Neither does the fact that it seems that no one reported him missing.
    A local millionaire goes missing from a small rural community and nobody notices unlikely. Had he no family, friends, lovers, neighbours who would be concerned about him.
    This is all very strange and to tell you the truth we are really just speculating with very little actual facts,
    We have a report which has been proven to be inaccurate in at least one fact (the word thief was written onto his forward not cut into it) and only the word of a man who might be very sick indeed and have no real connection to the real world.

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  13. carl marks (profile) says:

    seems he was reported missing, but strangly no major search.

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  14. Mick Fealty (profile) says:

    carl,

    I think you are working way too hard at this. Here’s a list of current missing people. How many of these have had extensive searches: http://www.psni.police.uk/index/updates/updates_missing_persons-2.htm

    And: http://www.irishnews.com/news/gangs-with-eastern-european-links-among-kidnap-suspects-1228085

    “reported missing by his part ner Siobhan O’Callaghan in June”

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  15. carl marks (profile) says:

    Mick
    Anybody who disappears in a rural area and is gone for more than 24 hours comes to the attention of a POLSAR (Police search and rescue) sergeant , a profile is worked up with the assistance of local CID and the decision is made as to how intensive the search (if indeed any is launched).
    Young (under 16) the elderly and those deemed vulnerable are except in exceptional circumstances always searched for.
    The intensity of the search can and does vary, search teams are deployed according to terrain, Mountain rescue will be deployed in all terrains and weather conditions whilst teams with less training (called lowland) are only deployed in the less challenging locations and conditions, Helicopters with FLIR (forward looking infer red) are also deployed when the conditions suit or when available.
    The local team will take leadership with other teams from further away entering the field as and when they become available or when teams are rotated of the search area for rest, food, or sleep,
    Mountain rescue teams which are made up of volunteers will also return to the search area at weekends to continue the search if there has not been a find, these are “listed” as training exercise.
    Search dogs also will be deployed when suitable.
    I would have expected Mr McCeever to fit into the group defined above and would be surprised if a search was not tasked.

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  16. carl marks (profile) says:

    maybe im trying to hard but then i have a interest in these things.

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  17. carl marks (profile) says:

    Mick had a look at the list you posted i know of at least 4 who were subject of searchs.

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  18. carl marks (profile) says:

    East Europeans or the ra or maybe both, not a bit of wonder the poor man is traumatised,
    Any hard facts Mick, I mean it’s as good an explanation as any and if the guards had this in mind when he disappeared then that would explain a lot,
    Still he has my sympathy no matter what were the events that led up to his discovery at the border.

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  19. dodrade (profile) says:

    He’s the Irish Kapar Hauser.

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  20. dodrade (profile) says:

    Sorry, Kaspar Hauser.

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  21. babyface finlayson (profile) says:

    carl marks
    “maybe im trying to hard but then i have a interest in these things.”
    Hmmm…. do you have an alibi?

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  22. It is a strange story but maybe we such await further information before indulging in wild speculation or dubious diagnoses.

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  23. carl marks (profile) says:

    babyface finlayson
    Alibi,
    Im saying nothing till my lawyer gets here!

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  24. John Ó Néill (profile) says:

    Thought this was worth a bump. Keep an eye on tomorrows papers.

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  25. carl marks (profile) says:

    Hey what do you know! seems i was right, law of averages i suppose.

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  26. Mick Fealty (profile) says:

    Still no details on the ‘abduction’ John/CM, other than Ms Valllely saying his eyes were much bigger and he had a brand new phone when she found him: http://goo.gl/phPPM.

    Mr McGeever it seems is not co-operating with the police.

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  27. John Ó Néill (profile) says:

    Well… it is being widely reported in the press that he faked his disappearance (eg see Mayo News).

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