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Memo to the National Trust…

Tue 10 July 2012, 5:26pm

The “intellectual baboons” behind young-Earth creationism at the National Trust’s Giants’ Causeway Interpretive Centre are singing your praises in letters to the editor and op-eds in the News Letter

‘Caleb’ had engaged over many months with elected representatives and the National Trust on this. The step taken by the Trust is a small, but welcome, move towards greater inclusivity. [added emphasis]

It is though, of itself, significant. For the first time a younger earth interpretation has now been included as part of an official site such as this. The National Trust did so without abandoning its own commitment to the majority interpretation. If the Trust can do so – why couldn’t others? Clearly they could.

This new feature at the Causeway Centre also has another wider significance. Every church group, Sunday school, youth fellowship etc can now go to the Causeway Centre, take on board what is said about the continuing debate and, from that starting point, tell children, young people, men’s groups, ladies’ fellowships or senior citizens about the wealth of evidence in all branches of science – evidence that some would seek to suppress – in all creation, that points to the hand of a sovereign God in this world. From there, they can show how this is in harmony with the Bible’s revelation of the grace of God in reaching down to mankind to redeem from sin.

Where once the only view on display was of an old earth, there is now reference to another perspective. The availability of more information will promote healthy, informed debate – surely that is a good thing.

Mission accomplished, then?

On the other hand, some people are offering you some wise advice.

The National Trust need to be very very clear on where they go next. They must immediately remove all references to creationist views from the material relating to the Causeway. If, upon review, it is felt that creationist views need a nod, this must be very clearly placed in the “Mythology, Folklore and Legend” section, along with the old stories of Finn MacCool, and alongside my personal favourite of the Giant Lava-secreting Bees. It is quite inappropriate for the National Trust to give the impression that this category of “explanation” is worthy of consideration as an “alternative” to a scientifically valid model.

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Comments (14)

  1. that continuing debate line… damn NT, even when they changed to amongst themselves, the YEC’ers aren’t debating it the age of the earth they know its 6,000 yrs old.

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  2. lamhdearg2 (profile) black spot black spot says:

    Of course if there remove it completely, and as a result of pressure, they will lose members, and the money those member bring.

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  3. But gain more members in England.

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  4. DT123 (profile) says:

    How many adherents must a “theory” have,before the NT allows it to be represented in it’s exhibitions?

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  5. Mister_Joe (profile) says:

    DT,

    Perhaps just one if he has a large enough moneybag.

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  6. andnowwhat (profile) black spot says:

    Personally, I believe the Earth was created in 1977 by Darth Vader to be used as a death star (all previous memories were planted to make us test our doubt) but due to the empire’s heavy investment in a mortgage ponzi scheme on Tatooine, it was unable to invest in turning the entire planet in to one giant weapon of mass destruction.

    May the force be with you.

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  7. Nevin (profile) says:

    “On the other hand, some people”

    .. are availing of the opportunity to indulge in something as bad if not worse than homophobia and hate speech – the wholly inappropriate use of language associated with mental illness or disability as put downs eg the title of the linked article “National Trust succumbs to creationist lunacy?” It’s perfectly possible to disagree strongly, even vehemently, yet retain a measure of civility.

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  8. andnowwhat (profile) black spot says:

    Nevin

    Look at the blog and the way creationists bend everything. Mark twain’s remarks about arguing with a fool should always apply when talking to these people. I’ve encountered such people many times and they have zero problem attacking mine and other faiths using clearly pre programmed points.

    Anti intellectualism deserves nothing but scorn and does not require one to use the finer elements of one’s syntax

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  9. Mac (profile) says:

    “Of course if there remove it completely, and as a result of pressure, they will lose members, and the money those member bring.”

    If the posts on the NT’s facebook page are to be taken at face value, their stock, especially among the English NT members has taken a nose dive. There is no gain here, where the Ulster Museum looked good, the NT has been weakened in the eyes of the public, the media and teaching/scientific bodies.
    There is a certain degree of fun in seeing the English reactions to linked articles on Poots, McCausland and other DUP members attempts at meddling in the academic curriculum in Lisburn, lost tribe fantasies and even Nelson’s statue proposals.

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  10. Nevin (profile) says:

    andnowwhat, I not referring to the finer points of syntax, I’m referring to the dragging of folks into the debate to be used as weapons agin the opposition.

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  11. sherdy (profile) says:

    I have been reliably informed that Edwin is now accepting the fact that the earth was created in 1690!

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  12. Dec (profile) says:

    ‘How many adherents must a “theory” have,before the NT allows it to be represented in it’s exhibitions?’

    Oh, about 9.25 million

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  13. Scáth Shéamais (profile) says:

    How many adherents must a “theory” have,before the NT allows it to be represented in it’s exhibitions?

    Ignorance doesn’t become more acceptable just because of the number of people afflicted by it.

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  14. Jack2 (profile) says:

    “You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.” -Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

    Opinions are for letters to the editor or pub gossip. Facts are for museums, places of learning & information centre’s.

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