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Home Rule for Wales

Sat 5 March 2011, 9:25am

I’m still a bit stunned at the referendum result:
Yes: 517,132 No: 297,380.
That’s 63.5% in favour of streamlining the Welsh lawmaking process.
Some remarkable results, especially in the North East where both Wrexham and Flintshire voted resoundingly in favour with stunning swings from 1997.
Here’s the results and the BBC’s analysis.
And Carwyn says: “An old nation came of age”
I’m very lucky to live in these times – the first real Home Rule for Wales since Glyndŵr..
Cool or what?

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  1. ItwasSammyMcNally (profile) black spot says:

    Dewi,

    Great result, turnout is a disappointment but considering the arcane nature of the subject matter probably not suprising.

    I know you have spoken about this before but was the decision to have a vote striclty a constitutional one or a political one by a cautious Labour party?

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  2. Dewi (profile) says:

    b) Sammy – probably the daftest referendum subject in UK constitutional history…but Hain could only get the Government of Wales act through in 2006 with the referendum provision. A great result for Wales,

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  3. ItwasSammyMcNally (profile) black spot says:

    Dewi,

    “could only get the Government of Wales act through in 2006 with the referendum provision”

    Because of Labour Party obstruction or the Tories or both?

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  4. Dewi (profile) says:

    Labour

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  5. Pete Baker (profile) says:

    From the BBC report

    One obvious number to stand out is that for turnout. Only 35.2% of registered voters took part.

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  6. Dewi (profile) says:

    That’s not that bad for a technical issue Pete – higher than the London Mayoralty referendum.

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  7. Barry the Blender (profile) says:

    It’s slightly less than the number of people who actually vote in Welsh Assembly elections.

    Atrocious turnout. Scrap the whole thing I say

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  8. Dewi (profile) says:

    On whose say so Barry?

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  9. smellybigoxteronye (profile) says:

    That’s only 22.35% of the electorate in favour – pretty dismal!

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  10. Dewi (profile) says:

    ……and 12.85% against. I repeat that for such an anorakish issue, and one where the polls were all shoiwing an easy win, the turnout wasn’t bad.

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  11. Zachariah Tiffins Foot (profile) says:

    Difficult to claim “the first Home Rule for Wales since Glyndwr” and at the same time try to explain away the poor turnout because it was an “anorakish issue”. A momentous bore perhaps?

    I do admire your chutzpah in bringing your Welsh separatist views to Slugger given so many here believe that the only right and proper political condition for an island is as one entity. So either Anglesey goes it alone or start digging out Clawdd Offa and hope that the Irish Sea will flow south down it to the Bristol channel.

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  12. Dewi (profile) says:

    Yeah Zach – difficult but I think true. It was an extremely important vote but try explaining Legislative Competency Orders and Section 4 of the Government of Wales Act to people and eyes tended to glaze….

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  13. lamhdearg (profile) says:

    i like the cut of your jib zac, vis a vis the one island, as for Dewi, nothing wrong with wanting to feel pride in the fact that of the people you voted most voted for welsh rule, (implied)

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  14. lamhdearg (profile) says:

    people That voted, sorry, again.

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