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GE11 preview from the south-east: Carlow-Kilkenny

Thu 17 February 2011, 10:55am

There are a total of 19 candidates standing in the Carlow-Kilkenny constituency. Last time out 3 FF TDs were returned, one of whom (MJ Nolan) is the only one of the five sitting TDs not to stand again. In 2007, a certain amount of conservatism was evident as FF received nearly 48% of the first preference vote, while FG got nearly 29% (both above average). That was slightly balanced by the election of Mary White, the only Green TD returned by a largely rural constituency. FG’s vote management strategy, as such, in 2007 was pretty disastrous as only 1 TD was returned off almost two quotas.

This time out, both FF and FG have gone for three-candidate strategies, FG dreaming of that elusive single party government, FF in the hope of holding two seats. Apart from their two sitting TDs, around Carlow the posters for FF’s third candidate, Cllr Jennifer Murnane O’Connor, are obviously believed to have appeal for a certain demographic. The posters show a cropped-back, close-up, full facial image which practically invades your personal space as you look at it. Where they feature on posters, the other candidates are slightly further from the camera and generally include their upper torso (see a selection here). While candidate imagery isn’t something we dwell on much, it surely contributes to the overall impression. Ironically, the FG team photo for the constituency has sitting TD, Phil Hogan, uncomfortably shoe-horned in between the two other candidates (Senator John Paul Phelan and Cllr Phil Deering). Perhaps there is something Freudian here in trying to squeeze three FGers into this one picture. Another episode of inept vote management here would be terminal for FG’s current ambitions.

Two FG TDs does seem to be a foregone conclusion. If FF can hold two seats, a third FG seat seems unlikely, although the catastrophe of FF returning with only one TD would likely be compounded by seeing 3 FG TDs representing the constituency in the Dáil. Mary White is almost certain to lose out but there appear to be enough votes outside of FG and FF for the fifth seat to go elsewhere. There has almost always been a Labour seat here, but since the retirement of Seamus Pattinson before the 2007 election there hasn’t been enough evidence to decide whether his vote had become personal rather than party. Presumably Labour will perform better than their 9% in 2007, but a lot depends on where disgruntled FF votes go. SF are running two candidates, Kilkenny-based Kathleen Funchion and Carlow-based John Cassin. As, even more than in Kilkenny, Carlow votes tend to stay with Carlow candidates, both SF and Labour will be hoping that local first preference, plus transfers and some disgruntled FF votes keep them in the hunt for a seat. None of the independents appear likely to make a significant impact here.

The general expectation is that Kilkenny-based John McGuinness (FF) and Phil Hogan (FG) get back in safely and will be joined by Phil Deering (FG) from Carlow. The next two seats will be decided by the peculiarities of this election – the alignment of disaffected FF voters, the strength of the FG surge and transfer patterns. While Labour could well get a seat back, Mary White and one of the SF candidates may well be in the running in the latter counts, although Bobby Aylward (FF) and John Paul Phelan (FG) will definitely survive at least that far.

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Comments (5)

  1. Drumlins Rock (profile) says:

    John, maybe is purely because of the Carlow / Kilkenny split that they are running tow candidates, but with less than a quarter of a quota last time surely SF are risking a seat standing two candidates, with too high of a risk of leakage on transfers when you use the geography split.

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  2. John Ó Néill (profile) says:

    DR – its an odd call at face value, but with FF having been on 48% and dropping exponentially, there is a lot in play. Both candidates are young and the main aim is to build a base for future elections as much as anything else. In 2007 Kathleen Funchion contested the Euro elections for Leinster and got a bit more of a profile as well.
    I’d guess the numbers game is that whatever core-SF first preference vote either candidate gets will initially be supplemented locally by former FF votes (one local poll had both SFers at a combined 16%, but I’d not exactly trust that). When the lower placed candidate is eliminated, presumably there will be a reasonable conversion of the SF core vote to the other SF candidate plus whatever other transfers that go with it. If the SF first preference rises to half a quota or more and attracts some transfers, the lead candidate may be in with a shout. This is pretty much how White got in in 2007. A lot depends on what the former FF voter decides to do – if the current FF votes transfer to try and limit FGs success, it may decide to go to SF, too.

    I think SF would have to be having a really good day between fpv and transfers to sneak into the last seat here.

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  3. fitzjameshorse1745 (profile) says:

    I recall several elections ago that in this constituency ……ALL of the elected TDs came from one county (Kilkenny) which hurt Carlow pride.
    Maybe that accounts for Carlow votes now staying within the “county.

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  4. John Ó Néill (profile) says:

    The electorates (for last council election in 2009) were roughly 69,000 (Kilkenny) and 41,000 Carlow. A 60% turnout would give a quota of around 11,000 – presuming it is the same in both counties, you’d need to swing nearly half the Carlow vote (about 24,000) to get in solely on Carlow votes.

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  5. Drumlins Rock (profile) says:

    We have the same clear split in FST, leading to the problem votes transfer across the regional candidates and not across the parties, it will definately be an interesting one to see if the famous SF election machine called this one right or wrong.

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